Amazon, An Author and a "Bad" Review
by sassymonkey

Back when I started book blogging I never thought that writing book reviews was a tumultuous exercise. It turns out, as is often the case, I may have been wrong about that one. Reviewing books is not quite the staid exercise our former high school English teachers would like us to believe. Amazon reviews have a way of disappearing lately, especially if you happen to give the book a less than stellar review.

Or worse case scenario, not only do you find that your review has been removed but that the people orchestrating it's removal are alleging that they have located private information about you - including your children's name and your home address. Seem far-fetched to you? Yeah, well I bet that's what one Amazon reviewer thought before it happened to her.

It all started out innocently enough. Last summer, August 2007, an Amazon reviewer, Reba Belle, posted a 3 star review of In Her Bed by Deborah Anne MacGillivray. It's a bit of a confusing read as, aside from Reba Belle's original review, all of her comments have been removed by Amazon. MacGillivray also posted comments in response to the review which she later deleted herself leaving some more gaps. Little was heard about these deleted comments until Dear Author posted a Highland Press Warnings earlier this month. Since then many of the deleted comments credited to MacGillivray have come out as has the information that in August 2007 MacGillivray supposedly posted to Highland Press Author Group about Reba Belle saying that "thanks to our PI we now have her name, her husband’s name, her childrens’ names, her grannies and great grannies name. Her address phone number and email." Reba Belle's Amazon reviewing rights have been removed (...but of course she can still order from them).

Dear Author's contributer Jane, who had brought the blogosphere most of the information on the issue, has provided an excellent summary of the events to date so head over there to read it and follow all the links.

I've been following this story since April 7 and reviewing everything again over the last few hours and I can honestly say my head is spinning. The idea of an author orchestrating this reaction in response to a relatively benign 3 star review is simply unthinkable. That there is suspicion that Amazon reviews may be padded isn't new. As Ramblings on Romance, etc reminds us, the New York Times wrote an article in February 2004 about reviewer wars.

Anna Jarzab has sympathy for authors for some of the bad reviews that appear on Amazon but thinks that in this case the author crossed the line.

Some Amazon reviewers are notoriously cruel, and I don’t know of any author who hasn’t felt the sting of an extremely nasty (undeservedly so–I think reviews should be calm and thoughtful, even if they are bad) review. But, in the end, if someone has an opinion about the book it isn’t really fair to deny them the right to express that on Amazon, even if you think that it is invalid.

Muse's Book Journal did some digging of her own and posted cautionary tale of reviews.

For her own novels there seem to be tons of 5-star ones and maybe one dissenting 1-star! This is just unrealistic. There are always a range of responses to novels and movies. I try to find good points in the books I read but a 5-star review is still more of an occasional thing when something wows me. Thinking that the community over on Goodreads.com would be less effected by this type of manipulation I found that again her novels were getting average ratings of 4.75ish.

Rachel Butler, an author herself, has been following the story and has a few observations.

What I am getting into is a topic that came up as sort of a sideline: reviews and authors. Reviews are a part of this business. Good ones are a nice ego stroke that lasts about five minutes. Bad ones can shake your faith in yourself and stick with you like a bad case of poison ivy.

Jem's Thoughts made, in my opinion, an excellent point about bad reviews.

What's sad is that negative reviews are sometimes the most valuable. And usually they don't keep me from buying something I was interested in.

It's been a long time since I've read, let alone relied, on Amazon reviews. Why would I when I have so many excellent book blogs at my disposal? But on the rare times that I do look at them I tend to seek out both 5-star and 1-star reviews. The 5-star reviews often have a tendency (in my opinion) to gush but they tell you exactly why the reader was head-over-heels in love with the book. The 1-star review will tell you why people loathed the book and more often that not it's for the exact same reason that people gave it a 5-star rating. But sometimes you get a really great critique of what didn't work for the reviewer. Sometimes that will point you away from the book because it's something you hate as well and other times it will have you running to click "buy now" because that thing that the reviewer hates - yeah you absolutely love it. And when a book had oodles of 5-star ratings and no 1-star or 2-star ratings and barely any 3-star ratings? I get suspicious...and it's looking like there's very good reason.

Contributing Editor Sassymonkey also blogs at Sassymonkey and Sassymonkey Reads.

Comments

 

Squeeze that sour grape

That is by far the worst thing I have heard about Amazon, that they would ban this poor reviewer based on an author's sour-grapes complaining. Did they not even read the review to know it was harmless!?

Linda http://www.moonbridgebooks.com http://moonbridgeblog.blogspot.com

 

Reading the reviews

It would be nice if there was more transparency over how things are removed. Do people read it? Is it automated after a review has been marked a certain number of times. If they are read is it outsourced? So many questions. 

Sassymonkey and Sassymonkey Reads.

 

I've always wondered

I do look at Amazon reviews but I rarely find them helpful because all too often they're just 5 star gushes that feel like they were written by the author or written by someone paid to write the review.

Deleting negative reviews - wow. This goes against everything I believe in. I might have to stop ordering books from Amazon.

~Denise
BlogHer Community Manager

Flamingo House Happenings

 

Sometimes they delete positive ones too

By following the many, many links spiralling out from Dear Author I found a couple of people saying they had positive reviews removed as well. But there definitely seems to be a bias against negative reviews.

Rachel Butler addresses the issue of having friends/family write reviews for your books in her post. It happens. And she's right, it's not necessarily a bad thing. 

I'm feeling pretty unsure about Amazon right now...they have some damage control to do.  

Sassymonkey and Sassymonkey Reads.

 

Aii, the five-star reviews --

I once picked a handful of books for my book club based on Amazon reviews. There was a book -- which shall remain UNnamed because I'm still living it down with my friends and they'd never forgive me for outing it, plus I want no association with it and have managed to even forget its name -- which had hundreds of raving review. I thought it was odd: I watch the new book lists carefully and had never heard of it. 

Ha. It turned out to be soft porn, worse, badly written porn! If it had had a bodice-ripper cover and no/real reviews, I'd never have been tempted. 

I actually like that Amazon offers "real name" reviews -- in LBB (life before blogging), Amazon came up high in vanity searches.  

 

 

 

Alanna Kellogg
Kitchen Parade &
A Veggie Venture

 

Real name reviews

Those are definitely a boon. Although after reading what that author supposedly wrote about having tracked down that reviewer's address, phone number and the names of her children I'm not getting warm fuzzies about the thought of having real names out there.

Giggling at the "worse, badly written porn". I had a friend who wrote pornographic short stories for part of a summer. Apparently it's really hard to write good porn. ;)  

Sassymonkey and Sassymonkey Reads.

 

Happened to Me

I had a negative review removed from Amazon for the book Babyproofing Your Marriage. I've stopped contributing anything to Amazon because they're obviously swayed by authors. It's okay to contribute as long as you're only saying good things.

 

A big fat "whatever" from this book lover. 

 

FireMom from Stop, Drop and Blog

Also: Birth Parent Blog & The Chronicles of Munchkin Land

 

Oh!

Actually, it seems as if my review was reinstated. I was never alerted to that fact. I DID e-mail Amazon when it was removed because I thought that was absolute crud but never heard that it was reinstated.

 

So, Amazon just moved up a half-notch in my book.

 

That said, the comments to my review are funny. Man. Give a book a bad review and you're a bad woman, wife and citizen! HA! 

 

FireMom from Stop, Drop and Blog

Also: Birth Parent Blog & The Chronicles of Munchkin Land

 

It's okay to contribute as

It's okay to contribute as long as you're only saying good things.

That seems to sum it up. The fact that your review was removed and then put back after you complained makes me think there is some sort of automated removal of reviews and they aren't actually read until someone forces the issue. But yay you for getting it back.

 

Sassymonkey and Sassymonkey Reads.

 

Interesting use of negative reviews

My book group was talking about The Inheritance of Loss by Kiran Desai a few days ago. The leader read some positive and some negative reviews from Amazon and then polled us. Our star ratings just within the 20 or so in the group ranged from 2 to 5. It was really interesting to see why some people had positive and some people had negative opinions about the book. Reviews are opinions. In a world of free speech, negative reviews have a place just like positive ones.

http://www.webteacher.ws/
http://first50.wordpress.com/

 

Great tip -

I'm going to use it with my book group!

 

We're doing Inheritance of Loss next month --  

 

 

Alanna Kellogg
Kitchen Parade &
A Veggie Venture

 

Review ranges

That's really interesting Virginia. I think that 5 and 1 star reviews would be rarer than 4-2 star reviews. In my world a 5 star review would go to the best book since sliced bread and a 1 star review would be for the books you throw across the room because they are so horrible.

Bad reviews are an important part of the discussion. Completely 100% agree.  

Sassymonkey and Sassymonkey Reads.

 

I still like reading Amazon reviews

even though most books’ reviews average is skewed towards 5 stars.
It matches what we already know about optional surveys, those with strong opinions are more likely to post.
I am usually purposefully looking for the 3 and 4 star reviews.

What I’m more conflicted about is the author’s blogs are quite prevalent on Amazon’s website.
On one hand it can be quite interesting, but on the other hand it makes me feel like
I’m stepping onto the “author’s turf” somehow. The Amazon reviews are meaningless to me if it’s not genuine reader opinion (good or bad).

 

Bad Reviews is still Good Press

I'm surprised at the backlash reviewers get for writing a "bad" review.  I recently posted a bad review of a book on my blog, and explained why the book wasn't for me.

It didn't stop several readers from requesting a copy.

 

Miss Britt

http://www.miss-britt.com

"Dignity is Overrated"