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Vampire Novelist Anne Rice Quits Christianity

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NEW YORK - APRIL 25:  Writer Anne Rice attends the opening night of 'Lestat' at The Palace Theatre April 25, 2006 in New York City.  (Photo by Paul Hawthorne/Getty Images)

Anne Rice, whose book Called Out of Darkness was a beautifully-written spiritual confession, has decided that she loves Christ but not Christians.

She's neither the first nor the last to feel that way.

Sometimes I do, too. Sometimes I hate myself as a Christian, because I do the thing so badly.

Christianity is easy to do badly. You take the dogma and leave out the love -- you're doing it wrong.

You try to "correct" others and bring too much "righteousness" and not enough love -- you're doing it wrong.

Apply too much love, without accountability -- you're doing it wrong, then, too.

We cheat Christ when we do it badly.

We cheat Christ and each other when we teach Him badly.

We cheat Christ and each other and the Church when we catechize poorly, or when we approach the Supernatural with superficiality; when we stop applying thought to it.

Forty years of sloppy, empty elementary catechesis during concurrent social revolution and generational upheaval was a bad choice for the churches, who now reap what they have sown.

Rice writes:

In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control. I refuse to be anti-Democrat. I refuse to be anti-secular humanism. I refuse to be anti-science. I refuse to be anti-life.

Rice's angry frustration with what she (and, let's face it, many others) perceive to be a sort of Institution of No is interesting. She refuses to be "anti-gay," but the church teaches that indeed we must not be anti-gay, that homosexual inclinations are not sinful in themselves, but that all are called to chastity, whether gay or straight.

So, what she is refusing is not so much church teaching, which she incorrectly represents, but the worldly distortion of church teaching both as it is misunderstood and too-often practiced. I do not know how anyone could read the USCCB's pastoral letter, Always Our Children and then make a credible argument that the church is "anti-gay."

But then, I do not know how anyone can read Humanae Vitae and credibly call the church anti-feminist or anti-humanist.

I do not know how anyone can read Pope John Paul II's exhaustive teachings on the Theology of the Body and credibly declare the church to be reactionary on issues of sexuality or womanhood.

I do not know how anyone can read Gaudium et Spes and credibly argue that the church is out of touch with the Human Person or Society.

I do not know how anyone can read Fides et ratio and credibly argue that the church does not hold human reason in esteem.

I do not know how anyone can look at the Vatican supporting and funding stem cell research or the even the briefest list of religiously-inclined scientists and researchers and credibly argue that Christianity is "anti-science."

Anne Rice wants to do the Life-in-Christ on her own, while saying "Yes" to the worldly world and its values. She seems not to realize that far from being an Institution of No, the church is a giant and eternal urging toward "Yes,", that being a "yes" toward God -- whose ways are not our ways, and who draws all to Himself, in the fullness of time -- rather than a "yes" to ourselves.

Unfortunately, we Christians teach this poorly and generally make too many excuses for our failings. Too many of us go out into the world seeking to confront and "fix" others, when the key to the Christian life begins with confronting and "fixing" the self. This can only be done through grace, which enters upon the Yes, and moves and grows on the intentional breeze of Willingness, because that is the only thing that counts, our intentions and our willingness; "worthiness" does not enter in.

But willingness only comes with humility. It comes when we can say "Thy will be done," and then actually surrender, instead of preparing a treaty.

The world, because it is worldly, cannot understand Christianity or the churches; the world will never love either, and it is foolishness to think otherwise.

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Jo Hilder 7 pts

We cannot “hate the sin and love the sinner” at the same time. To hate something as intrinsic to a person as their sexual expression is to reject that person on the most basic level. Love, the kind God advocates for, is unconditional - in fact, it is we created all the “conditions”, called them sins, and then invented the word “unconditional” to describe our amazement at the scope and depth of His love despite all of them.

We Christians have been able to scripturally justify our wholesale homophobia in much the same way that we managed in the past to scripturally reject certain persons on the basis of their skin colour. But just as that fear had to be overcome, so too will this one.

Thistle Cove Farm 5 pts

IMO, Christianity isn't about religion, it's about relationship. Relationship with Jesus Christ and each of us as individuals. It's not about the church...of any denomination..., it's not about what we think or don't think...it's about what the Bible says. Thanks to Martin Luther, we now understand we can each have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. All of us can read the Bible, spend time in prayer and in listening to His whisper, leading us in the path HE would have us go. Not in the path we want to go or the path various churches and church leaders would lead.

None of us have to do more than open our eyes in the morning to find some wrong in other people or in ourselves. None of us are perfect, each of us will, eventually, be judged by God.

Because religion is comprised of flawed human beings, it stands to reason if one looks to religion for perfection, one is doomed to being sorely disappointed.

I'm not Catholic and have never understood the whole "papal infallibility" mentality. The Bible clearly states no one other than Jesus Christ is perfect.

I'm sorry for Ms Rice; I've heard her speak and, to me, it sounds as if she's tremendously unhappy and that's so sad.

My Ex- Life 5 pts

I am a Christian and do not like organized religion. I attend a church because i enjoy being with those who believe like i do. However I can't stand the legalism and judgementalism that has crept into the church, which includes all Christians not just the Catholic church.

I thank God that He loves me right where I am every day. Because of His love in and for me I am able to give it to others. As far as I'm concerned I do not have a reason to judge anyone else. If I live as Christ did I will live among all people, loving and caring for them all. He is our example.

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Sisterlisa 5 pts

I have believed in God for as long as I can remember and really took a deeper interest im my personal relationship with Him when I was 19. (I'm 38 now) After spending 15 years in Organized Religion, now having left it, I see missions so much differently. It sounds to me like you have seen the organized religion way of being a missionary. IMO being a missionary is about loving outwardly. To be genuine. People who don't understand God's love will recognize genuine love in a true missionary. One who offers hope, freedom, and support regardless of their beliefs. It's when 'missionary' efforts have theologocial strings attached to suck them into their religious works that they just administer religion to them....instead of Love.

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Sisterlisa 5 pts

Our family left traditional Christianity also. We follow God's leading, still worship Him, and fellowship with other 'free' believers. I'm not against churches or people who do follow a traditional organization, and I ask that they not be against me too. The fundy approach to how Anne is being treated by those she is avoiding just proves her point.

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rockincowgirl4christ 5 pts

Please forgive me. After re-reading my comment I realize how it came across. The only sin (according to the Christian faith) that is in my list was homosexuality. Being black is definately not a sin, it is the way God created human beings to be different in beautiful ways. What I was trying to say was that all people are different. As Christians, we must see those differences and love the people no matter what. Please forgive my err in words, I did not mean to offend or to come across racist or intolerable in any way.

Nina McKellan 5 pts

You hate the sin but love the sinner, therefore you try to be charitable towards those who are gay, straight, black, white, agnostic, Catholic...?

So...who're the sinners among that list?

We get that Christians believe gay people are de facto sinners by their very nature (as well as mentally ill, disordered, and/or diseased, or all kinds of other uncharitable and unsubstantiated things), but are you saying that black people and agnostics are also de facto sinners?? Because their skin is a different color?? Or because their faith journey is in a different place than yours?

Wow.

So you love gays, blacks and agnostics, but hate their sins, which are, uh, being gay, black and/or agnostic.

That's a hell of a statement, but I guess it's refreshing to finally see someone put that kind of ugliness out there so we know what you really believe.

rockincowgirl4christ 5 pts

I really enjoyed reading your post. As a Christian, I find it hard sometimes to associate myself with those who claim Christianity, yet live as hypocrits. I often recall God's words to "hate the sin yet love the sinner." I may not agree with the way many people choose to live, but I make a conscious effort daily to show love to everyone... gay, straight, agnostic, catholic, black, white... doesn't matter. If we as Christians choose to look first at what someone believes and practices before we decide to befriend them or witness to them, we ourselves are limiting God's love in monumentous ways.

Nina McKellan 5 pts

MataH...

I understand where Anne Rice is coming from, especially in light of her own personal situation. Ghandi, Twain, Brennan Manning, et al., have all made similar statements: Christ isn't the problem, it's Christians behaving badly that cause all the trouble.

The usual Christian response is a universal shrug and the tired old "well, we're all sinners" excuse, as if being a Christian gives them a license to behave badly without consequence because they're "saved". Then, if one points out that their behavior is actually unChristian, as well as rude, arrogant, insensitive, whatever, one is met with the equally tired old "oooh, we're being persecuted" whinge.

In other words, for far too many Christians, "admonishing" others is always encouraged, justified, and righteous, but accepting a little admonishment themselves is not something they're very good at. So much for "love one another" and "do unto others".

As for the RCC's teaching re homosexuality, I find it terribly dehumanizing. I also believe the teaching is convoluted and uninformed and ignorant and appeals to those who are looking for an excuse to categorize gay people as something less human than straight people.

I have to add my thanks to MataH for reminding us that when Christ referred to his "church", he was speaking of the entire body of the faithful, not just one denomination. The institution that is the Roman Catholic Church that exists today is clearly the very thing Christ spent the majority of his ministry on earth working against. He came because of what organized religion had become, because of how spectacularly wrong-minded religious leaders had become. And here we are, 2000+ years later, and it's the same old same old.

Maybe it's time Christ came back. I look around at this world, and it's hard to find much good in it anymore, and the worst offenses are coming from Christiandom these days. Between the "God hates fags" crowd and the unending revelations of the filth going on among the RCC hierarchy and the mindless, name-it-and-claim-it prosperity theology we see every day on various TV programs, I'd say it's high time indeed.

Leanologymom 5 pts

With all the new shows and movies about vampires I wonder if Anne Rice started it all.

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TheBlackTortoise 5 pts

I need add no more.

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MLOKnitting 5 pts

I cannot fathom how anyone who has read Canon Law - and understood it in all of its implications - can see the Roman See as anything other than misogyny.

The vast majority of Roman Catholics really didn't pay attention in Catechism. And, unless they went through rigorous schooling with Jesuits and their ilk, I'm hard pressed for them to really comprehend the horrendous consequences of the practice of much of what makes up Canon Law.

This is not to say that it is only the RCC - but the prevalence of this misogyny in the Western Protestant Movement, with direct ties to the RCC, makes me hesitant to trust Rome in any matters.

The Orthodox Churches have their problems, but none of them think they should control everyone and everything by their own mandates. (Yes, the Russian Orthodox Church tries from time to time, but since they had to grow up inside ever-changing Muslim and Atheist regimes - not to mention some of the harshest Christian Monarchs ever - they know that won't succeed.)

Roman Catholicism is NOT Christianity. It is a branch of Christianity that broke with the anti-establishment sentiment of the early Church Fathers who saw the dangers of becoming entrenched within government. Most of them taught to only be concerned with relieving the suffering of this world through the Good News of Christ's Resurrection. (The overemphasis on the Crucifixion in the Western Church is also problematic. We are supposed to be celebrating His triumph over DEATH as Sin is what causes Death. But, I'm moving into a rather esoteric area.)

I truly do not understand how any woman who believes in the equality of all can be Roman Catholic. I just can't. I have the same issue with many other religions, mind you, but, the vast majority of women who have the choice to be Roman Catholic have other, less misogynistic, options open to them.

I am not speaking as someone who knows nothing about this. I spent years being a prized religion student in a Catholic School and was targeted by the nuns to become one. I never converted to Catholicism because I saw it as inherently flawed by the maltreatment of women and the introduction of a hierarchy wherein the top no longer truly served the lesser. When raiments of gold abound, rotted sepulchers are found.

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Melissa Ford 5 pts

I'm not Christian, so it may be that I misunderstand a major teaching of the religion, but isn't missionary work in some form or another part of the religion? If missionary work is mandated by the religion and you are supposed to bring more people to Christ's teachings, then how is the focus solely on self? Isn't it partially on self and partially on others?

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BShallue 5 pts

I'm a Catholic Convert (Southern Baptist, then agnostic) and I think you did a wonderful job pointing out how Catholic beliefs are so misunderstood and misrepresented, even by cradle Catholics. One other thing to point out is that the Catholic Church has areas of belief that are "black and white" and others that are "suggested" but not mandated.
What drew me into the church was the love of all life (I sure don't understand Rice's statement on that one!), the acceptance of flaws and differences, and the appreciation of individuality in all humans.
I realize, though, and it makes me sad, that everyone hasn't had that same experience with the Catholic Church.
That's because ultimately, the church is made up of humans. Flaw is inevitable. But Grace holds it together, despite ourselves.

Barbara Shallue writes about her life at http://barbarashallue.typepad.com and is contributing editor of http://jobs4autism.com.

Mata H 5 pts

First, although Anne Rice left the Roman Catholic Church, the RCC is not "The Church". While Anne may have accepted that singular definition, as do many members of the RCC, it is not an accurate one.

Second, without going into each document that you list, there are in fact many faithful Christians who can read them and see many prejudicial limitations. For example, the USCCB document that you reference as not being anti-gay not only suggests that gay-to-straight conversion therapy may be useful, but has this to say First, it is God's plan that sexual intercourse occur only within marriage between a man and a woman. Second, every act of intercourse must be open to the possible creation of human life. Homosexual intercourse cannot fulfill these two conditions. Therefore, the Church teaches that homogenital behavior is objectively immoral, while making the important distinction between this behavior and a homosexual orientation, which is not immoral in itself.

So, gay people are fine as long as they are celibate through their lifetime. This is hardly gay-positive.

Humanae Vitae is the document that sets out one condition alone for acceptable sexual congress -- intercourse between straight married couples that is specifically intended to produce a child. Period. Birth control is not acceptable. This is not a document that stands out as pro-woman or as humanist, as you suggest.

I understand that you are a leading apologist for the RCC, and that your faith leads you to see beauty in a dogma that many others do not. You may well be called to take your position, as others are called to take theirs.

I would be wary of dismissing her or others out of hand as having "misunderstood" the RCC, or any other religious denomination. Look, for example at the statement of the group The Elders ( http://www.theelders.org ) on the connection between organized religion and the violation of women's rights ( http://www.theelders.org/media/video/jimmy-carter-... )

I celebrate life as a Christian, and agree with you that Christ's message of love has often been contorted -- but rather than herd people back into institutions that are not spiritually feeding them, I suggest we look to our institutions and listen carefully to those that fall away -- whether it is from your denomination or my own or someone else's.

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

JennaHatfield 16 pts

It sounds like Anne has had one-to-many run-ins with the type of people who give Christianity a bad name. I understand her point of view and plight, and I wish her the best in her journey.

Jenna Hatfield (@FireMom ( http://twitter.com/FireMom )), from Stop, Drop and Blog ( http://stopdropandblog.com ) and The Chronicles of Munchkin Land ( http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com ), is a freelance writer and newspaper photographer.

paapeseed 6 pts

I don't think that missionary work, in the way that most people think of it, is mandated by the religion at all. As a cradle Catholic, it's my understanding that we are supposed to go forth and spread the message of Christ, although spreading the message doesn't necessarily mean that one has to be a sign carrying bible thumper standing on the corner with a bullhorn and spouting Christian tenets. Jesus teaches us to love one another, so you can do that. Treating others fairly and without judgement IS missionary work (and a whole lot more difficult than it sounds). Living as good of a life as you can is living the mission of Christ. People are more likely to follow you (whether spiritually or just following your example) if you emulate the message as opposed to regurgitating it.

Be a good person, love one another, do what you can to make the world a better place, don't put yourself above others, lend a hand, love your children, respect your parents and elders, don't steal, lie, or cheat (and if you do, say you're sorry and make an effort to reconcile your misdeeds), don't judge (unless you're perfect-and if you think you're perfect, just remember that judgement against you is going to be threefold), take a stand to make a difference, share the word, be an example, comfort your brother & sisters, live a good life, have a little faith (have a whole lot of faith), understand that sometimes bad things happen (and don't be afraid to lean on someone else when you've got nothing), trust that things will get better, don't make things harder for those who are doing the leaning, forgive each other, have hope...these are all things that Christians are taught and that I would like to think most everyone is working on (regardless of religious background).

We don't live in a vacuum, so I think you're absolutely right in thinking that it's as much a journey of self as it is as a journey WITH others. Faith is a very personal entity, but what religion does is reaffirm one's faith in the context of the faith of thousands of others past, present and future. Sure there are times when the ideals that are focused on are skewed, but I guess you could say that about the beliefs and rules of just about anything.