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Are Women Afraid of Public Transportation Environments?

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Ask many a driver why she doesn't take public transit, and a good number will cite safety reasons. While I think this safety issue's often overblown by the Prius-driving neighbors in my Santa Monica neighborhood who drive around midday with the excuse that bus stops can be dangerous in the middle of the night, both real and perceived dangers can certainly keep people -- especially women -- from taking to our public transit systems.

dark bus stop

After all, what woman would feel safe waiting at a bus stop like the one pictured above? Could bus stops that feel safer get more women taking public transit?

That's what one professor at the University of California, Los Angeles is looking at. Anastasia Loukaitou-Sideris, a professor of urban planning, recently authored How to Ease Women's Fear of Transportation Environments: Case Studies and Best Practices (PDF, 96 pages), which points out "a mismatch between the expressed needs of women passengers and the types and locations of common safety/security strategies adopted by transit agencies."

In an interview with Grist, Anastasia explains what some of these disconnects are:

Women are much more scared waiting at the bus stop or transit station than within the enclosed space of the transit vehicle. Yet most transportation safety resources are concentrated on the vehicle. Women were also not comforted knowing that there was a camera or CCT technology. They were not against it, but they felt that if anything happened to them the camera would only help after the event, not during. So they were much more in favor of more policing, human solutions rather than technological solutions. Yet the trend is towards more technology, not less. We found a lot of these sorts of mismatches between policy and what women want.

As Anastasia's study points out, the wait time at transit stop's what really scary for many women, according to Browne Molyneux, an L.A. blogger and avid transit taker who writes The Bus Bench:

Many people feel that the issue with women and public transit is the obvious sexual harassment ... but in my opinion walking to and waiting at bus stops (and sometimes rail stations) puts you at a greater risk. Most of the time on the rail in LA you aren't the only person, but at bus stops in LA you're often the only person. And the wait is the horrible part.

Waiting in an isolated spot for 30 minutes or an hour is not just something people should have to do. For many women this is deal breaker in regards to public transit or it should be, but many of the women who ride public transit don't have a choice. This isn't a deal breaker because of inconvenience it's a deal breaker because it's very unnerving to wait in the dark for a bus that may or may not come.

Browne isn't waiting for transit agencies to deal with the issue; she's started her own collaborative public campaign of sorts. Browne launched The Bus Bench Google Map Project -- with the goal of "critiquing every corner with a bus stop or rail in the LA area by August 30, 2010."

Anyone can collaborate on this mapping project by reviewing a public transit stop and labeling it with special symbols, if need be. A red triangle with an exclamation point, for example, scarlet-symbols a stop as "Not woman friendly," while a yellow sun shines upon livable streets that are kid safe and pedestrian friendly.

That project's limited to the L.A.-area -- at least for now -- but other women bloggers too are speaking up about transit agency decisions that don't seem to take safety concerns seriously. In a Seattle blog called Publicola, Erica C. Barnett writes about how a well-lit stop with a traffic light and several nearby businesses was shut down "as part of the process of consolidating stops on my route to improve reliability" -- making her closest bus stop "an unlit intersection, in front of a vacant parking lot, with no businesses around, no traffic light, and a bus stop across the street where people frequently congregate to buy and sell drugs." Writes Barnett:

Besides being a pedestrian-safety nightmare (cars whiz by at speeds upward of 50 mph because of the huge distances between lights on the main drag of my neighborhood), the intersection feels unsafe to me. Will it keep me from taking the bus? No. But would it deter someone who isn't reliant on

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tjstaab 5 pts

It is never my first, second or even third choice to take public transportation.  I was assaulted on a train many, many years ago before I got my driver's license.  Since then I have used public transportation about a dozen times and only with friends, never alone. 

greenlagirl 5 pts

I agree with you to a degree -- If all our streets were v. safe, obviously safety at transit stops would likely not be that big of an issue. But I do think that some thinking behind stop placement, lighting, etc. can definitely make them safer (or at least seem a lot safer).

Even if I just needed to walk a block in one neighborhood as a pedestrian, I'm more likely, for example, to walk down the well-lit block if given the choice between that and a less well-lit one, or even worse, a dark alleyway. I may even be wlling to walk an extra block or few to be on this better-lit block. I think the same goes for bus stops, as every neighborhood, whether generally considered "safe" or not, definitely has its safer-seeming spots and the fear-inducing spots.

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greenlagirl 5 pts

This policy of allowing people to request stops closer to home after a certain hour's one of the women-friendly policies that the study mentions. You're actually allowed to do this in the L.A. Metro system, though I don't think many women know it. I think it's after 9 pm but I'm not positive. I've requested stops near my house while on a rapid bus late at night a couple times, and each time the driver was v. nice about it :)

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LindsayDianne 5 pts

Maybe it's just.. yet again... that I live in Canada...

But I feel safe taking transit to the point of being 26 years old and having never been licensed to drive. I'm also almost 6 feet tall. It is ALLLLLLL perspective.

I didn't vote because there wasn't a Yes, totally all the time option.

Suzanne 5 pts

It's pretty rare that there isn't someone around when I'm traveling at night, but I live on the Upper West Side, so maybe that's why.  The only time I've felt a little weird taking the subway is during that weird dead time between 3 am and 6 am or so.  (Generally only done when leaving for very early flights from JFK.)  Otherwise, I find there are enough people around that I'm OK.  And I generally take buses in Manhattan, so that's also a big difference.

Anyway, I have had some experiences in cabs where the driver didn't listen to where I was going or just tried to talk to me about inappropriate things, and then I'm a captive in his car.  It just weirds me out.  When it comes to the mechanics, though, I have definitely feared for my life due to lack of shocks, bald tires, and bad breaks. 

Suzanne also blogs at Campaign for Unshaved Snatch (CUSS) & Other Rants ( http://cussandotherrants.com ) and is the author of Off the Beaten (Subway) Track ( http://offthebeatensubwaytrack.com ).

CrystalsCozyKitchen 5 pts

I recently moved from a city with public transportation to a town with NONE. However, in the city we lived in I did use public transportation and with some drivers I would have felt safer walking. This driver made a 10 minute trip (10 minutes if you are in a car driving speed limit) in 7 with the stops. I had to hold on so I did not fall out of the seat (I was pregnant at the time.) He would also start driving without the back door being closed when the bus was packed with standing people.

We were on campus so I did not have to worry about unlit bus stops as much - the stop I took was at the student union building so I never felt scared, but I never was there after 7 PM alone. I definately felt safe enough in the daytime even when traveling to various parts of the city, of course it does matter on what city you live in.

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Rita Arens 7 pts

I lived in Chicago for over a year without a car and took the 'L everywhere -- except after midnight alone. I would take it after midnight in a group. I always feel comfortable taking the Metro in DC. I am very comfortable on the subway in New York City, but I admit -- I hate the stops. I hate walking alone, I hate waiting alone, after dark. I have been harrassed or intimidated too many times to put myself in that position again.

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Jonesabi 5 pts

Whenever I've felt 'on guard' in a public transit experience (waiting for the 12am metro, getting off the bus in a sketchy area so I coud rent a U-Haul), I've thought of that experience not as an element of public transportation, but an element of living in a city. For me, public transit is about as dangerous as walking down the street. And if you're in a place where walking down the street is dangerous, then that community has a host of issues that are not caused by public transportation, but ones that bleed into public transport.

And then there are the fist-fights on SF's buses, but that's another issue: Muni Fight ( http://sfist.com/2009/10/08/fight_on_sf_muni_bus_i... )

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alvenable 5 pts

I did an Ignite Portland presentation ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3UgQvmtPZk ) on why I ride the bus last year. I love public transit and have taken it all over the world and at different hours. I've taken the subway way after midnight in NYC alone with no issues. Living in Portland now seems like a world away, but it still has its issues.

That said, it's definitely about being aware of one's surroundings and walking (quickly) away if you feel uncomfortable. It's also about being a vocal advocate of using public transporation so that public officials act and respond in a timely manner on issues that may be preventing others from riding the bus/train more often. That means participating in open houses, contacting transit leadership to complain (and praise) so that they'll know, yes, there are people out there who are watching them.

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bfflisa 5 pts

As a woman who regularly drove into the city, never really considering public transportation as an option because of the inconvenience factor, I was verbally assaulted on public transportation the one day I decided to take the Metro train because my car was being serviced. I must have had the look of fear on my face, because of all the people on the train, the drunk guy picked me out of the crowd to harrass. In my face. The vulgarities. The insults. It was scary and embarrassing, all at once. At my first opportunity, I exited that train and waited for the next. Needless to say, that was my last train ride during rush hour for a long time.

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thebloggingmum 5 pts

I actually sold my car and exclusively use Public Transportation when available, and Zipcar when not. I live in a college town and right on a bus line- owning a car ended upjust being a waste.

I have never felt unsafe on public transportation. I was, admittedly, a little nervous with taking public transportation in Chicago and NYC the first times that I did that- but then I looked around and realized that there were lots and lots of people taking it, all day, every day. I got over my irrational fears quickly.

mashadutoit 5 pts

Where I live this is an enormous issue.  The public transport is horrendous - what with cities that are actually designed to make working people live far from where they live as possible (remember - apartheid!) and the "taxi wars" that erupt every now and again amongst the largely unregulated taxi industry that has sprung up to deal with the demand.

The World Cup has meant that some of this is supposed to improve, but its difficult to imagine how.

As you pointed out, a largely ignored aspect is the parts of the journey outside of the actual transport.  For example - Cape Town Station, once notorious - is now fairly safe.  But area several blocks around it, is a nightmare between 5pm and 7am.  Just a nightmare.

If I could have a wish, it would be this.  Please, please let the councillors and members of parliament, and anyone else who makes decisions about our public transport - please let them have to commute to and from work - just for a week. 

They just do not understand.

Julie Heinrich 5 pts

That sounds like an excellent idea: let the ones who do the planning and make the transportation department decisions actually use the public transportation. They should use it at varying hours of the day and night and they should visit and stand at all of the bus stops/train stops themselves, in-person, alone!

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sassymonkey 6 pts moderator

For ten years I used public transportation exclusively. I've lived in two cities with very good public transportation and currently live in a city where I'd describe the public transit system as "meh." In the first two cities I'd use transit at all times of day but when I used it at night it largely depended on where I was getting on/off, if I was alone and if I was sober. Waiting for transit alone, at night, in an area of the city I wasn't familiar with and not entirely sober? I wouldn't wait at a bus stop. I'd at least take a cab to the subway station where there are more people if I couldn't afford to take it all the way home.

It also helps to know the rules of the bus system. In at least one of cities I've lived in after a certain hour bus drivers can stop in between stops if you don't feel safe getting off at the bus stop and walking to wherever you need to go (only for getting off, not for getting on). And the hours shifted to reflect the daylight hours so in the summer it was after 9pm and in the winter it was after 7pm (I think).

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greenlagirl 5 pts

It definitely seems like in general, we feel safer when there are other people around -- whether riders or just other pedestrians, people in nearby lit up stores / other places of business.

Which is to say -- especially in places where the # if public transit takers aren't high enough yet to provide a sense of safety to all riders -- placing stops near people hubs would be especially helpful. Sometimes, it seems like public transit agencies go out of their way to put stops in deserted areas. I think this has to do with local businesses sometimes not wanting a bus stop right outside their stores, but I think the safety needs of the many riders using public transit systems should be prioritized.

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greenlagirl 5 pts

Ah -- If only we had the subway system NY has in L.A.! I'm v. jealous.

I do have to say though -- When I was on the east coast, I lived in Brooklyn Heights and if I was out after midnight and going home alone, I did feel safer in a taxi.... Did you have a bad cab incident?

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Maria Niles 5 pts

I've had a truck full of men attempt to get me in their car while waiting alone at a bus stop at night in Los Angeles. I've known women in LA who've been attacked when walking from a club to a bus stop. I've had a car driver (sort of like a cab but more expensive) that I've called after I missed the last train home from Manhattan get out of the car at the end of the ride and grab me and plant a kiss on me and promising to come back to see me. And you are absolutely right, Suzanne, the subway or bus in NYC can be much less frightening than a cab or driving.

On the other hand I was thrilled to find out a few years ago that the late night BART trains leaving SF are packed and it gave me much more confidence to use that option when traveling alone.

So, yes, safety concerns as a woman traveling alone definitely help keep me in my car. What would make me feel safer would be well lit, bustling waiting spaces and paths plus frequent trains or buses so I'm not waiting around for a long time.

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Suzanne 5 pts

One of the reasons that I love living in NYC is that I can access public transportation at all hours.  I've seen some dicey things in my 15 years riding the subway and bus at all hours, but taking cabs scare me far more.  There's only you and the cab driver, not to mention problems with cab maintenance.  Driving on my own scares me most of all, though.  I hate driving.

Suzanne also blogs at Campaign for Unshaved Snatch (CUSS) & Other Rants ( http://cussandotherrants.com ) and is the author of Off the Beaten (Subway) Track ( http://offthebeatensubwaytrack.com ).

Julie Heinrich 5 pts

I live in a town with zero public transportation. But I travel a good bit for work and when I do, especially on my frequent trips to San Francisco, I use public transportation as frequently as possible. But usually in the evenings, I opt for a cab over a deserted bus stop.

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