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Are you discouraged from participating in politics? Or is politics discouraged from participating with you?

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This week on the blog MyDD, Melissa Ryan wrote:

“Women have told me that they're to intimidated to comment and post diaries on political blogs. I think that reluctance comes from a society that discourages women from participating in politics. That's a much larger problem, one that traditional media and political organizations aren't about to tackle. Instead they throw pot shots at bloggers, and in turn potentially discourage women from joining the Netroots coalition. Sexism exists everywhere. Yes it's a part of the netroots but as Jane {Hamsher, from Firedoglake] points out sexism is deeply rooted in the culture of both politics and media. The lack of women participating on political blogs is a discussion worth having, but the MSM shouldn't be driving the debate. Women bloggers should."

One of the things I like most about BlogHer is that we defy labels. We cover everything.

Another thing I like is that we tend to avoid the navel gazing typical among many blog communities, but the apparent lack of women talking politics online is one self-referential topic I think is worth discussing. Blogger Matt Stoller led me to the argument from Melissa Ryan about the under representation of women in political blogging. As we all know, this is a misnomer. It’s about labels. On BlogHer, perhaps few of us are strictly political bloggers, but we all write about politics when so moved.

I think mainstream institutions like the media and political campaigns can only cope with neatly labeled groups like “the netroots” or “mommybloggers.” The reality of online communities is far more messy and a little intimidating.

As BlogHer CE Catherine Morgan wrote, “… the reason BlogHer and the BlogHer conference is so great, is because it doesn’t “exclude” any woman, there is something for everyone. PLEASE DON’T CHANGE THAT. I wouldn’t want that to change just so politicians can have another soap-box, and the media can come up with one word to describe us all (like they do for kos). Let’s continue to focus on what WE WANT ….from them, ORGANIZING AS A GROUP TO AFFECT CHANGE…

But the discussion about where women fit in political blogging is real. After all, perception so often equals reality. Sarah and the GoonSquad noted:

“I’m not trying to make this a political blog, but I read something in The Washington Post yesterday that made me angry.

First the back story: My neighbor that I really like (the one who I told about BlogHer) knew that I went going to a blogging convention in Chicago and so she was excited when she saw this article in the paper.

Is that the one you went to? It says mostly white males.

No, mine was almost all women. Can I see the article?

It was the Yearly Kos Bloggers Convention. Yes, I understand that The Daily Kos is huge and I understand that it is mostly progressive political bloggers, so it make sense that the candidates would be interested in this venue, but seven of the eight Democratic presidential candidates were there.

SEVEN OUT OF EIGHT.

You can’t see it in the online article, but in the paper paper there are pictures of Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Barak Obama and Dennis Kuchinich speaking at the conference.

BlogHer got Elizabeth Edwards. No offense to Mrs. Edwards, but seven of the eight Democratic candidates had no trouble showing up to Chicago the first weekend in August, but only one week earlier not one candidate (Democrat OR Republican) came to the girl blogging conference.”

Here’s the awesome thing: Barack Obama is really struggling with women voters. Well, duh!

If indeed you are discouraged from participating in politics, you haven’t missed much. This week:

Karl Rove’s Out- or is he really? As Lisse comments in Erin Kotecki Vest’s summary, “I think the beast has gone underground”

I agree, but apparently, there are those who love Mr. Rove: “Rove Hos”? http://www.ilovekarlrove.com/

And, thank you Diane for this priceless Rove quote: "We will fuck him. Do you hear me? We will fuck him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever fucked him." -to an aide about some political stratagem in some state that had gone awry and a political operative who had displeased him

Politics is an ugly business, indeed.

Speaking of, just in there aren’t enough bikini-clad wenches who can’t sing on VH1, there’s another “Obama Girl” video! Except this time, it’s the Romney Girls, a winsome threesome from New Jersey. Ew. Caroline Roberts

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toledolefty 5 pts

Though of course I was cheering harder for Morra, they were both so smart and articulate. I was glad to see them disagreeing respectably. And how cool is it that BOTH bloggers they consulted were women?

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Jen
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http://angryfatgirlz.blogspot.com
http://toledolefty.blogspot.com

Kalyn Denny 5 pts

Wow, it was a thrill to see Morra on CNN (via YouTube, thanks Catherine!) Morra, you were great.

I have a feeling that someday we'll all be telling people that we've met you.

Kalyn Denny
Kalyn's Kitchen ( http://kalynskitchen.blogspot.com )

Catherine Morgan 5 pts

I also posted this on my political blog ( http://informedvoters.wordpress.com/2007/08/17/lef... ).

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
also at Women 4 Hope ( http://women4hope.wordpress.com/ ) and Informed Voters ( http://informedvoters.wordpress.com/ )

Morra Aarons Mele 5 pts

Because this is a totally brilliant point and I'd never thought this way before- and now, I will:
"For example the quickest way to stop women dead in their political tracks is to raise issues like working mothers are harming children, or abortion is the work of the devil, and immediatley everyone rushes to take a position, meanwhile, men are sitting at the appropriations table and cutting money for headstart, after-school programming, health care access for poor women and so on."

nellewrites 6 pts

In both postings... wish I had more time to comment. Please don't shut up...

nelle ( http://www.nelle2nelle.org/ )

Lovebabz 5 pts

It is so easy to polarize women and keep them from focusing on issues that require immediate attention. For example the quickest way to stop women dead in their political tracks is to raise issues like working mothers are harming children, or abortion is the work of the devil, and immediatley everyone rushes to take a position, meanwhile, men are sitting at the appropriations table and cutting money for headstart, after-school programming, health care access for poor women and so on. So we have got to post a look-out to keep our eyes on the prize and not concern ourselves with what a candidate is wearing. We have got to analyze information and wear masks to guard against smoke and mirrors. Ok I am shutting the fuck up now. (I LOVE Politics)

Love,
Babz
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my life. my journey.

Lovebabz 5 pts

I was elected to local office twice. It was gruelling I kept getting questions like who's taking care of your kids, how does your husband feel about you running. It took a while before people realized I had good command of the issues and was serious at being a player. The campaigning process is not designed for women with children, women with jobs, women that breathe. Politics is tough--it's all about relationship building, which women do very well. The problem is we are loyal creatures and are too trusting of others with our agenda and it is unsettling to get aggressive unless the issue is so damned charged that we are forced to speak up. We don't anty up the bucks for our candidates and we are harder on women than we are on men. I think women ought to be more vocal and active in politics--start pacs, work on women campaigns. The Women's Campaign School at Yale had a slogan" When Women Run, Women Win. Absolutely!

Love,
Babz
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nellewrites 6 pts

There is a lot of power to change the world if not this nation, and it doesn't take anything more radical than standing up and being counted on election day.

nelle ( http://www.nelle2nelle.org/ )

nellewrites 6 pts

She is one of the few Republicans I would vote for.

I'm in NH, former governor is a very popular Jeanne Shaheen (whom we are trying to get to run for Senate.)

Women with a qualified opinion are there, but they have to be asked to come on air. We got the ex mayor of San Francisco giving his debate opinion... what about Carole Mosely Braun?

nelle ( http://www.nelle2nelle.org/ )

Morra Aarons Mele 5 pts

although I don't know if "talking heads" are aspirational!
Nelle- what state are you from?

I'm from NJ, and my former Governor would be a wonderful "head." Except she took her fall...

toledolefty 5 pts

I am always surprised when people say they don't care about politics, especially women.

Sure, I don't care about political game playing -- Politician A's campaign makes a snide remark about Politician B, then Politician B makes a big production of acting wounded and demanding an apology. Politician A at first refuses to back down, but then checks the poll numbers and says "I regret if you misunderstood my remark."

I think only the bobble-heads enjoy that stuff.

But women not watching who represents our interests (or doesn't) in your government? That's a good way to make sure that politicians continue to ignore things that women care about.

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Jen
http://yawwblog.blogspot.com
http://angryfatgirlz.blogspot.com
http://toledolefty.blogspot.com

Catherine Morgan 5 pts

Personally, I think women are the only hope this country has of not totally destroying itself. If (and hopefully when) women decide to unite in politics, we will be bigger (and more powerful) than any man or political party. When we unite, no politician or media outlet will be able to ignore us...but the "unite" part has to happen first. We need to get past political affiliation and work together for the greater good of our children and this country. The question is not can we do it...The question is WILL we do it?

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
also at Women 4 Hope ( http://women4hope.wordpress.com/ ) and Informed Voters ( http://informedvoters.wordpress.com/ )

nellewrites 6 pts

Watching the Democratic debate last week on MSNBC (as opposed to Logo's conversations a couple of days later) I was struck by the lack of women talking heads giving their take on the debate. 155 million or so women in this country, and they could find only one to represent us?

Heck, our former governor is astute and articulate, she would do just fine, and I am sure every other poster here could offer up their own recommendation.

Maybe this is a chicken or egg thing, but it would be helpful if someone might actually value our opinions enough to air them. Maybe then more women would be involved.

Think of Title IX, and what that enabling legislation has led to. If you let us be heard, we will come.

nelle ( http://www.nelle2nelle.org/ )