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Are You A Marilyn Or A Jackie?

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It's so late, it's early. My friend Simone and I are at her ex-boyfriend's in Beverly Hills that autumn morning for some reason. Peter is your typical L.A. slasher: basketball player/model/actor/producer. He's sitting behind a huge oak desk on a leather chair with stacks of specs and paperwork in front of him, a huge bottle of Fiji looking proportionate in his large hand.

“When I last saw Simone, she was screaming—what were you saying? Oh! I remember,” Peter mimics, switching into a high-pitched voice: “Fuck you and your fake-ass girlfriend!”

“Why, is she hot?” I ask, leaning forward.

Peter exhales and picks up a frame from a shelf to his right and hands it to me. I look at the life-size Barbie next to him in the shot.

“Oh, Jesus,” I say. “She’s gorgeous.”

Peter looks absently at one of the stacks of paper on his desk.

“You see all this?” he asks. “This is paperwork for the dog.”

He's relocating to Tokyo.

“You’re really doing this,” says Simone. “And she’s going with you?”

“She’s coming with me.”

“You’re going to support her?”

“No, she’s doing her own thing, modeling, etc.,” he says, taking a sip of his water. He looks at me. “Are those real?”

“Pardon?”

“Your tits.” Point-blank. Like we're at a casting call.

“Yes.”

“My god,” he leans back in his chair. “You could put you on a street with Heidi Klum and all the models in those ads that are supposed to be sexy and they could never be as sexy as you because they just don’t—you’re the real deal.”

I feel like a specimen in a Petri dish. With big pores. You know, the stuff “real” women have. I'm somewhere between flattered and horrified. Leaning more closely toward the latter.

“They don’t make women like that anymore,” Peter says, finally.

I'll bite. “Like what?”

“Who like sex. You exude sex. You’re, like, in heat. But you sit there with that ring on your hand so naturally, it makes me crazy.”

A ring, both a decoy and deterrent, depending on how you use it.

“Do you want to come to bed with me?” Peter asks.

“I have this ring on my hand and you have a girlfriend.”

“I do,” he says, picking up the picture and looking at it. “I do, I do.”

“Jesus, what’s your problem?” Simone asks.

“She doesn’t like sex like I do,” he confesses. “You ever get in bed with someone who’s like, ‘OK, let’s just do this,’ but you can tell they’re not really into it? It’s not the same if they don’t want it like you want it. It makes you not want it.”

“Pete, why are you with her?” Simone asks, softening her voice.

“She’s a nice girl. She’s so sweet. She’s uncomplicated.”

“Oh my god,” I whisper. “She’s a Jackie.”

JACKIE AND MARILYN

My friend Sugar, a lover and connoisseur of men, has this theory about men and the women who plague them. These women, she says, can be divided into two categories: the Jackies and the Marilyns.

“Jackie O,” she says. “She's the woman who is the mother of your children. The woman who has dinner ready every night, does everything she commits to do and has sex with you every Friday night after the kids are in bed. She keeps the house in order, her career (if she refrains from housewifery) in check, and always compliments her husband on a job well-done.”

Jackie is patient; Jackie is kind. Jackie bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Jackie, without a doubt, is the woman a man marries.

And Marilyn?

“She’s gorgeous and hungry,” says Sugar with a laugh. “She whispers, 'I want to fuck,' in your ear while you sit next to her in a business meeting. And instead of 'let’s go get some lunch,' your lunch is Marilyn.”

I knew a man who married a Marilyn once. He couldn't keep up sexually after a few years and was nearly driven insane by her inability to function within a household as he expected.

“Run the dishwasher?” she asked him staring at the machine (in nothing but stilettos and ropes and ropes of pearls). “How?”

At first he thought it was cute. And at first, she was more than willing to learn all of these things and do them. It was so much fun to play housewife. It was kinky to cook in nothing but an apron and Louboutins. It was sexy to sit in lingerie on top of the washer reading trashy erotica during the spin cycle and playing with herself. It was delightful to go grocery shopping at midday among all the stay-at-home moms—wearing

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Conflicted 5 pts

After trying to cultivate some semblence of Jackieness for years, I can wholeheartedly say (whoreheartedly, ha) it doesn't work.  Reining in Marilyn to cope with professional or other situations isn't the same as relegating her to a status below Jackie.  Marilyn simply won't stand such status for long.

Princess Shawn 5 pts

Wicked Shawn www.wickedgirlsthinkitdoyou.blogspot.com ( http://www.wickedgirlsthinkitdoyou.blogspot.com )

Horrible tightrope that I walk daily. I have had many sexual partners and would undoubtably be described as a Marilyn, even by my now teenage children. It is not entirely in the act itself but more your overall presentation and demeanor. The way I walk, laugh, smile, look into people's eyes while engaging in conversation. As you said, some people exude a sexuality.

But I am a parent and with that and my relationship of many years have come parent meetings, booster meetings and dinners to host, where I have had to reign it in on many occassions.

There is also my darling husband, who was thrilled to be with  a Marilyn, for a while and still is, at times. Unfortunately, there are times now when I can see the weary look on his face as if to say, "Will this ever end?".

In short, no. I am the woman he married. I altered myself to suit the role of wife and mother all I will ever be willing to do so. He will just have to give in to my desires. Not too much to ask, I wouldn't think.

avflox 5 pts

I'm beginning to wonder whether this is a hybrid situation or more closely related to Georg Simmel's Stranger. But I know in just thinking that I am overstepping the little model I so neatly built in this column.

Ah, thinkers...

avflox 5 pts

I am so happy you have found someone who loves the whole package. That may be as rare as being a hybrid woman!

avflox 5 pts

I have never been more certain that a hybrid exists than when I heard you describe your beloved. You've got the passion. Now I prescribe you an iron will, an iron fist and an unshakable code of chivalry.

Good luck. Yours is a far more complex choreography, that's for sure.

kperfetto 5 pts

I'm still waiting for the day when women can be multi-dimensional human beings. Jackie vs Marilyn, Ginger vs Mary Ann, Betty vs Veronica, etc... I'd liked to think I'm something other than nurturer or sex goddess. 

Available Light ( http://kathy-p.blogspot.com ) & Five Dollar Radio ( http://fivedollarradio.blogspot.com/ )

TsQuest 5 pts

Last week, I wrote a blog post about this exact same thing. I explained that I thought this was why Tiger Woods cheated with the women that he chose. He married a Jackie. He had affairs with Marilyns.

I know for a fact that I can play both because I did it. I was married as a Jackie and lived as a Marilyn during an affair that I had during my marriage. Now I'm with a man who adores both sides of me.

Thank goodness.

Passion is wondrous but there also needs to be a calming force. Not all satisfaction comes from the external. But damn its good when it does.

Erin Kotecki Vest 5 pts

Hybrid. 

Because I can't live in both worlds exclusively. I've tried, and my motherhood instinct sucks me into Jackie and my female nature sucks me back to Marilyn. I'm not entirely comfortable completely entrenched in either world. 

I can rock the Jackie side when needed- damn I can play a good Stepford if necessary. and I can Madonna - whore complex my way between the worlds comfortably. But living exclusively in one is impossible with children. 

Politics & News Contributing Editor Erin Kotecki Vest ( http://queenofspainblog.com/ )