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Are Your Odds of Asking(And Getting) A Raise The Same As Winning The Lottery?

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On the day I started my first job on July 7, 1973 ,I knew that I would be eligible for a salary review on July 7, 1974. I counted the days. I lived for the time when I would see a major increase in my $3.25 an hour pay. May I just say that after five years as a reporter, I walked out of WWBT TV making $5.00 an hour.

While I never missed the opportunity to tell management that I was under paid, while I never missed the opportunity to say the proposed increase was not acceptable, those protests didn't change the bottom line. As a young twenty-something I was clueless on how to negotiate a salary increase.

Would knowing how to negotiate a raise made a difference in my ending salary? That's a trick question. Given the era, given that I was a "girl", given that the company had set ranges for raises, I would say, that negotiating any raise in 1974 was not a realistic probability. It was not part of the culture of business.

But is it really part of our business culture today?

Unfortunately for many, the corporate landscape has not changed much in the past 30 odd years and it is the rareoccasion when someone can actually walk into their bosses office, request and get a raise because our work culture is not set up to have employees ask and get a raise. It really doesn't work that way for most of us.

With nearly 35 years in the workforce, I can honestly say I do not know anyone who has done that.Never. Not once. . And yet, if you spend time reading business blogs, books on succeeding in business, and magazine articles, you get the impression that everyone but you walks into their boss's office and successfully negotiates that raise.

You might get the feeling that knowing how to ask for that raise is a skill set you need to master in order to have a success career. I would say youb definitely need to learn how to negotiate for money but negotiating for a raise in our culture is tougher than negotiating for a great starting salary.

How many people are in a position to negotiate a raise? Not that many.

It seems that we have corporatized the annual pay raise to the point where for many it's more like getting your report card at the end of the school year. You know ahead of time the range of raises the company is giving 2.5% would be a C and 8% would be that coveted A plus.
Negotiation is not part of the conversation. The corporation tells you what your value is , not the other way around.

According to Ann Bares at the Compforce blog, the majority of workers received a paltry 3.3% pay increase in 2007.

According to survey respondents:

  • The top 12.8% of workers (performance-wise) will get an average pay increase of 5.4%.
  • The next highest 26.2% will get an average raise of 4.4%.
  • The middle-rated 52.9% will get an average increase of 3.3% (note nearly half a percent lower than the competitive norm).
  • The lowest rated 2.9% will average raises of 1.4%



Recently I was talking to a friend in a Fortune 100 and asked whether she could negotiate for a raise.; She looked at me like I had just landed from Venus saying, " The only time you can negotiate money in this place is when you are joining the company." Once you are "in" she explained,; management dictates when and the amount ( based on that pre-determined range); that you are eligible to receive.

Think teachers. Think state employees. People who work for unions. All of those annual salary bumps are negotiated ahead of time by others. Whether you are a star or a sloucher, your raise is predetermined. You know the date and the amount that you will see your raise show up in a paycheck.

There are some exceptions and work arounds.

We all know the situation where someone has asked for a raise, been denied, decided to look for another job and then when they inform their current employer about the offer, the employer suddenly "finds" the extra money that the person was requesting in the first place.

Or,when an employee doesn't get the raise they were hoping for is able to negotiate other perks like working from home several days ( saves gas money, lunch money and perhaps cost of clothes) , working fewer hours for the same pay ( I have a friend who negotiated this

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pbr90 5 pts

Women have long put the cart before the horse. In watching men get hired they forgot that men are preferred.

Men are preferred because they work longer hours and have few responsibilities for family and home.

Women need to be smarter to see that it is social and political power that created the environment for men to be preferred.

If women choose to "take power" by installing women in legislatures and powerful places, they will be in demand also.

Then jobs can look for them, as they tend to do for men.

kazari 5 pts

it used to be government. our increments are (like nancy) negotiated for us.
However, there is a complicated spreadsheet that outlines the levels of responsibility, initiative and outcomes for each level of employee. if you can prove that you're doing the work of a higher level, and your direct supervisor agrees, it's possible to be re-assigned to that higher level. effectively a promotion in your current position.
i've actually seen this done a couple of times. so it's not just a fairytale.

iin australia though, the statistics bear out the idea that the quickest way to increase your salary is to change jobs. this has certainly been the cause for the biggest jumps in my salary.

nancypearlwannabe 5 pts

When it comes to asking for a raise, this is one of the few times when I'm glad that I work in education. There is no "asking" for a raise. Unions negotiate that for us- sometimes not entirely to our liking, but at least I don't have to have that discussion every year. Plus, it's guaranteed that everyone knows where everyone else stands, as it's a matter of public record.