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A recent Arizona law allows Arizona police to question and to even arrest people about whom they have a "reasonable suspicion" regarding their immigration status. According to the New York Times:

It requires police officers, “when practicable,” to detain people they reasonably suspect are in the country without authorization and to verify their status with federal officials, unless doing so would hinder an investigation or emergency medical treatment.

The law also makes not carrying immigration papers a state crime —- a misdemeanor. In addition, it allows people to sue local government or agencies if they believe federal or state immigration law is not being enforced.

Protests And Prayers Erupt In AZ After Stringent Immigration Law Is Signed

The San Francisco Chronicle explains that:

Arizona's law is portrayed by its backers as a collective act of self-defense from the federal government's failure to control its borders. Polls indicate the measure is strongly supported by voters in a state whose border with Mexico is the site of more illegal crossings than any other in the nation.

The Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund said that AZ Governor Brewer had "caved to the radical fringe" and added, "... Arizona should brace for the inevitable response to its leadership’s folly – decreased cooperation with police that yields higher rates of crime, decreased international commerce that has ripple effects throughout the state economy, and a significant waste of taxpayer resources on defending and vainly attempting to implement a deeply flawed law."

The National Council of State Legislatures reports that many states are active in creating legislation regarding immigration.

As of November 20, 2009, state legislatures enacted 222 laws and adopted 131 resolutions in 48 states, for a total of 353 laws and resolutions nationwide. Of these, 20 were vetoed by governors. In 2009, approximately 1,500 bills were considered by all 50 state legislatures...The top areas of interest in 2009 are identification/driver’s license with 46 laws enacted, followed by health (28) and education (27). Human trafficking laws tripled, and health and education laws doubled in 2009 compared to 2008.

Protests and rallies have been peaceful since the law was signed, but one protest getting attention was a swastika smeared in refried beans on windows on state Senate and Congress buildings.

President Obama has referred to this bill as "misguided", and encouraged Congress to take action in creating meaningful federal policy.

Ashleigh, writing in The Burrow lives in Arizona and is concerned about the uneven requirements based on race. She also discusses the alternative of a National ID Card as a way to level the playing field.

I've never understood the objections to a National Identity Card. But concerns exist and the NIC does not. Instead of hearing "license, registration and NIC" at a traffic stop, we'll be hearing "license, registration and passport." We'll be erecting barriers between us, requiring only some of our number to carry identification. Will we be seeing hoodies with sweat-resistant passport holders?
I don't like feeling sad about my country. I don't like feeling embarrassed by my state. But the birthers are trying to amend our election laws to require samples of amniotic fluid before you can run for President of the United State on the Arizona ballot and I don't know..... I'm confused..... depressed..... outraged.....or just plain sad.

Erin, in Gender Across Borders, believes the law will be declared unconstitutional.

It is unclear exactly what the police are supposed to base their suspicions on, because according to the New York Times, Governor Jan Brewer has promised that racial profiling won’t be tolerated and police will “have proper training to carry out the law.” Presumably this training will include some sort of ESP lessons so that officers may guess a subject’s citizenship while blindfolded.

Faye Anderson of Anderson@Large supports the legislation.

Like 70 percent of Arizonans and 60 percent of voters nationwide, I support the measure. The federal government has failed to secure the border and enforce existing laws. So Arizona lawmakers did the job Congress won’t do. That said, I agree with opponents that the standard of “reasonable suspicion” an individual is unlawfully in the country is overly broad.

Cassy, from Hot Air is also in favor of the bill, pointing to the "overwhelming crime" by illegals in Arizona.

If illegal immigrants weren’t committing such high numbers of criminal acts, then I

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joanne3482 5 pts

My sister lived for 5 years in El Salvador and travelled throughout Latin America to places like Nicaragua and Guatemala. She always had her papers with her because she could (and would) be stopped at any time to be asked for them. If she couldn't produce them that would be a problem.

gorgona 5 pts

I really think President Obama is confused about Arizona’s new law. You know what is misguided is the mixed up person who smeared a swastika on a federal building, the one made out of refried beans.
I need passport to enter Mexico. I need a passport to enter Canada. Don’t leave home without your green card.
My husband is Greek and is often mistaken for a Latin person. He likes the new law in Arizona. He is not worried about walking down a street in Arizona. He knows the police there have better things to do than to pick on people.

Mata H 5 pts

There are just too many wrong-headed, wrong-hearted things about this legislation.

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

Mata H 5 pts

You are so right. Those papers are precious. Losing them to theft, or having them misplaced or mishandled could be disaster. There has to be a better solution. And you are right -- this exacerbates the hatred in these areas. I love Arizona. I know there is a problem. But there has to be a better, saner answer.

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Mata H 5 pts

True enough. The target is clear here. Yet, many of the same people favoring the legislation are quick to hire undocumented aliens if they want work done cheaply. I am not suggesting there is no problem in Arizona with crime and drugs coming across the border. There is a problem. But to target the innocent is not a solution to catching the guilty.

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Mata H 5 pts

You are right, the implications go far beyond the borders of Arizona.

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Mata H 5 pts

As an olive skinned, dark-eyed person who has been mistaken for a Latina, I assume I might be stopped as well. This law is a seething cauldron. We have waited a long time to try to get decent immigration legislation on the federal level. We now have a situation where according to Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

Megan Smith 5 pts

Do the people of Arizona think all illegal immigrants look like Mexicans or like so many of the illegal immigrants in New York who are from Ireland, Russia and Eastern Europe? What do you want to bet it's the former? Those illegals from Ireland, Russia and Eastern Europe may not cross the Rio Grande in the middle of the night--they tend to just let their visas expire and never reapply--but they are just as illegal.

Illegal immigration should and must be fought. Crime, should and must be fought. To my mind, both go without saying. But to pass a law like this which smacks a hell of a lot like Nazi Germany is a huge step backward for this country.

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cagey333 5 pts

That is the question I asked in my own post about this (Raging Arizona ( http://rancidraves.blogspot.com/2010/04/raging-ari... ))

So, I already worry enough about my India-born husband leaving the country, but now, I will have to worry if he passes through Arizona? Good grief.

Also, as I discussed in my own post, immigrants do NOT like carrying their precious, precious papers around. We keep my husband's papers locked up safe at all times. Losing this documentation would be frightening and the process for getting these papers back is crazy, time-consuming and always leaves us feeling quite vulnerable.

Yes, there is a problem for the border states - I am well aware of it with family and friends in Arizona and California. But passing this law is NOT the answer and only serves to encourage the hatred that is rife in these areas.

Frankly, I am still teary-eyed that a state I love so very much has passed something so terrible.

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natalied6579 5 pts

I agree about the poll. I couldn't even answer it because none of the options really reflected my views.

Barrister 5 pts

As a Philadelphia injury attorney ( http://www.sheridanandmurray.com ) who has represented clients in civil rights cases, I'm concerned that this type of law is going down a slippery slope. Since we live in a nation that is considered the "melting pot," how does a police officer determine "reasonable suspicion" that a person is an illegal alien? And let's face it, the law is specifically designed to go after illegal Mexican immigrants. I can't see people speaking fluent Italian being asked to prove citizenship.

Deb Rox 5 pts

This law is an appalling affront to civil liberties and a state action that has huge international diplomacy implications. I'm interested to see if the Arizona public support will change if the boycott picks up any speed.

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Jake Aryeh Marcus 5 pts

How about some more poll choices - like "I think the law is unconstitutional." A national identity card may not be problematic but the circumstances under which someone can demand you present it may be. People seem to think the Arizona law only requires presenting immigration documents if you have been stopped for some legitimate reason - like a traffic stop. This new law goes far beyond that. There is nothing to prevent police officers from stopping anyone simply on the basis of skin color. You need not be suspected of a crime. This law implicitly *requires* racial profiling since that is the only way to have a suspicion someone is undocumented. What happens to people who are U.S. citizens - therefore have no Visa to carry - but look Latino? How many U.S. citizens will be detained and even deported because they aren't carrying their U.S. passports? This law is indeed a travesty.

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natalied6579 5 pts

In all honesty, I do feel there needs to be immigration reform and that people who are here illegally should be made to leave. That being said, I think this law is incredibly dangerous and could easily be abused. Frankly, it makes me afraid to visit my grandparents in Arizona. I'm not Latina (black father, Jewish mother) but often get spoken to in Spanish and mistaken for Mexican. Do I think I would be stopped? No, probably not. Does it make me nervous? Sure as heck does.