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I'm so tired of hearing how great teachers are. The president finally stands up and says, yeah we have bad teachers and they need to be dealt with and we need to make it easier for districts to do that. Then everyone starts saying, oh woe is the teacher lots of work and no pay for teaching unruly and stupid children. Would people really rather believe children are universally unruly and stupid [or constantly distracted] rather than believe we have some terrible teachers? Or maybe they each think their child is a genius angel while other people's children are the bad ones. Or maybe because teachers, the good ones, are truly important so people are willing to put up with more. It's probably all of the above and then some.

Believe it or not, there are a lot more bad teachers than what you hear about. Some times, as with my third grade teacher, they've been there too long and no matter the number of complaints the school board can't do anything. It took other teachers, and about 10 years, complaining about hearing this bad teacher screaming all the way down the hallway for the school board to act. And at that all they could do was force this teacher into early retirement, which was only "early" by a few years.

Now she was a bad teacher. But sometimes you get teachers that just aren't that great. In fact if you added up all the bad teachers and all the not-so-great teachers, they would, by far, out number the OK and good teachers. This isn't from my experiences, at four different school districts, alone. I try to stay on top of news about bad teachers and this is something that is coming to light more and more often.

Bad teachers are the main reason I'm seriously considering homeschooling my daughter. Though I've heard things have changed in our school district I just can't get one small incident out of my head. Not so long ago my niece was in kindergarten. She was a surprisingly well behaved child for being so young. The teacher's assistant, who was going on to become a teacher, got rude with my niece one day. Long story short, my niece was pretending to drink from a fake plastic [toy] pop can. Naturally play acting, she made exaggerated gulping/swallowing sounds. Rather than inform the 5 year old of proper manners since it was so obviously bothersome, the assistant yelled at my niece. She made the poor kid feel very badly about herself and for a while refused to play in the play house, where she was playing acting with the pop.

Even if things have made a significant improvement since I graduated, it hasn't been enough. Especially when a parent brings up a teacher's assistant's questionable actions and the teacher refuses to even look into them, automatically dismissing the parent. That is not the kind of place I want my child to go to.

 

This article is cross posted from Jen's blog; Different But Determined.

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texasebeth 6 pts

None of us said your claims were improbable. None of us disagreed that bad teachers are a problem and need to be fired.  We all stated that there is so more to the issue than just bad teachers. Getting rid of the bad teachers won't be the instant fix you imply it will be. Education has to be valued, parents have to support the teachers/schools, districts have to stand up to parents, government needs to quit changing the laws every other year, etc.

And, beg your opinion, but YOUR experiences alone can not speak for an entire nation either.  The only person I see here "refusing to see any other point of view than the one they've always known" is you. 

Elizabeth

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difbutdeterm 5 pts

I did not say bad teachers alone out number good and OK teachers. I said Bad and not so great teachers out number good and OK.

I respect your opinions and your right to have them. I would be a fool if I didn't expect a few teachers and other public school works come out and stand up for their own. We as groups tend to stand by those we associate ourselves with. It's a defense mechanism and it's normal.

But I respectfully ask that you do look into the issue a bit more before you declare that my claims are improbable. Your experiences alone can not speak for an entire nation.  And this goes back to the claim I made on my blog about people refusing to see any other point of view than the one they've always known.

That being said, I do agree that it is beyond dumb that teachers are forced to "teach to test". And that is only getting worse. It's no way to teach and it's no way to learn.

DebbieB 5 pts

I'm not a teacher but I did raise a child in the public school system here in CA and I worked for the same district for 3 years. I don't believe that "if you added up all the bad teachers and all the not-so-great teachers, they would, by far, out number the OK and good teachers." That said, my daughter did have a few "bad" teachers and I do believe that these people should have lost their jobs. They didn't yell, they weren't rude; they just didn't teach or care if the kids learned. They didn't do their jobs. In any other industry if you do a bad job, you get fired. It's pretty simple. I blame the very powerful teachers' unions. Something's got to change in our education system in this country.

tbonegrl 5 pts

I agree that there ARE bad teachers, but I don't think they outnumber the OK and great ones. Maybe I am too optimistic? Sometimes I wish teaching was just about what I love most: working with and inspiring kids. Unfortunately, now it is also about testing, paperwork, and hoops to jump through.

Maybe I am biased because I teach, maybe I am too optimistic, maybe I see it differently because I work in the trenches teaching children every day.

Meghan

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texasebeth 6 pts

Yes there are bad teachers out there. I don't know that they outnumber the good or okay teachers though.

Personally, I see a lot of the problem as bad parents. Parents who let their kids get away with all sorts of crap at home so the kids act out at school too. Then the parents defend their kids & complain to the ISD so eventually the school can't discipline anyone. The superintendant won't back up the principle or teachers frequently due to political concerns. I've seen this over & over in different school districts, both low socio-economic & upper middle class areas.

Add in the stupid amount of testing (at least here in TX) & your teachers have to "teach to the test". Nevermind if you stuck to the basics, the kids could figure out the test & do well. There are more examples I can give but it would take pages. :)

Teachers are actually quite well paid when you look at just their salary. Are they paid enough to put with the kids, parents, politics, administration & other crap? No.

I come from a long line of teachers, most of my friends & family are teachers. I could not do it in today's environment.

Elizabeth

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