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The Blogger PR Blackout - The good, the bad, and the completely puzzling

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There have been any number of times that I have eagerly clicked over to my favorite personal blog, awaiting a hilarious breastfeeding story or an engaging rant about reality TV (Kelly Bensimmon, you just kill me with that orange skin!) only to find an uninspired giveaway of Consumer Package Good X. I'd be lying if I didn't admit I often wonder what the blog world would be like if everyone got back to blogging their passions, as they mostly did 3 or 4 years ago (I know, call me Granny), and away from the half-hearted marketing plugs.

So I was intrigued to learn that this week, a blogging community called MomDot issued a call for a PR Blackout next month.

MomDot is challenging bloggers to participate for one week in August in a PR Blackout challenge where you do not blog ANY giveaways, ANY reviews, and Zero press releases. In fact, we don't want you to talk to PR at ALL that whole week.  We want to see your blog naked, raw, and back to basics.

Evidently this is necessary because bloggers in this community are now experiencing "deadline stress equivalent to what the General Motors CEO must feel every time he drives into work." Wow, writing your opinion about soup is now comparable to being responsible for the livelihood of 325,000 employees and their families! That is a lot of stress!

Admittedly my first thought was, it's a nice idea, but haven't bloggers learned to use the delete key on their email accounts? 

Unless you are receiving money from a sponsor or have some other contract, a blogger never has an obligation to post about a product. Never. Not even if that product came free. Not even if that product came free, hand-delivered to your door by a shirtless Hugh Jackman. But then, I would wonder what in the world is going on in your life that's more interesting than writing about a shirtless Hugh Jackman at your door. 

Susan Getgood, a respected marketer and PR professional in the mom
blogger community cut right to the chase on her own blog, Marketing Roadmaps:

I really cannot figure out the reason for the boycott. If product reviews are too much work, don’t do them. Or do fewer. If you aren’t getting joy from something, stop. If the value isn’t there, don’t do it.

Seems logical to me. But it would seem that this Product Review Stress Syndrome is palpable and does somehow need to be addressed, as a few dozen bloggers have eagerly embraced the effort. Grandma blogger (cool!) Cindy of Moomette's Magnificents suggests that she didn't start as a product reviewer, but it has increasingly taken over her time. Similar thoughts have been echoed by Heather at Maternal Spark and Tammy of of Autism Learning Felt who says quite clearly:

This is not to shun PR, but to give us mommies a break. We put a lot of time into doing reviews and giveaways. Time that we don’t get paid for. Yes, we got a free product. Big whoopee. A $10, $25, or $50 item for all the hours we put into reviewing an item, writing up the post and promoting the giveaways. The main reason most of us do it is because at one time it was fun. Lately, for some of us, we miss just blogging about our family and our life. We want a break.

And I totally see her point. We--especially moms with such limited time and resources but really all bloggers--should all be putting our energy towards the activities that give us the most reward and fulfillment in life. Online and off.

But then, why take the shot at PR people? Why not call it "Write Well Week" or "Blog About Life Week" if the idea isn't to antagonize or alienate the PR community? Ostensibly, that's what an effort called "PR Blackout" is doing.

And if the effort is such a sincere act of community building, I cannot figure out why MomDot would seek to antagonize those who don't participate. The day after the call for a blackout, MomDot editor Trish initiated a further call to bloggers, suggesting that they are "whiny" and "weak" if they won't or can't commit to the blackout because of existing obligations to marketers.

Listen up whiny babies of the blogosphere: If your [sic] afraid to take a WEEK, a WEEK off of PR blogging, then you have a PROBLEM.  

Now go dry your

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anaesthetic 5 pts

I totally missed this but, then again, I'm not a mom nor am I really connected. I have a couple thought on this and some of them are even contradictory.

On the one hand, I agree. If it's work, stop. Write something else. Almost all of my reviews have been things I have purchased myseld and I write them.. because I like to. Because I have something to say. Because, so many times, I have wanted to read a quality review but could not find one.  If I get sick of writing reviews, I focus on shopping or maybe I just take a break.

But as a blog reader? I would love to see a break from reviews. Maybe it is insulting and not quite true to call ALL reviews cheap PR tactics but most of them are horrible, not anything I do want to read or posts that feel "organic" in nature. I stopped at a blog today to read a review/giveaway and wanted to earn extra entries by commenting on other posts.. except, every post on the front page was a review/giveaway and none of them actually interested me. There's definitely some saturation here and the focus on reviews, especially "reviews" in exchange for product is oustanding in a bad way. It makes me want to scream "enough is enough, already!". So, as a reader, I wouldn't mind everyone backing off a bit.

Not that I don't read several blogs that don't have any reviews at all; those certainly do exist (and many of those aren't great reading, either) but it does seem like "Mommy blogger" has become synonomous with "review blogger".

mindfulmomma 5 pts

Thank you Liz, for your very thoughtful take on this whole strange PR blackout thing.   I personally find no need to take part in it because I 'do PR' on my own terms and in my own good time.  Honestly, I feel really good about supporting small eco-friendly businesses by promoting their products and I think that my readers appreciate the heads up about products that might make sense in their lives.  In fact I'm just about to put up a post about another wonderful Mom-run business today...blackout or not!  BTW - I just signed the Blog with Integrity pledge and will proudly display the badge!

Dorotheaa 5 pts

Sounds like someoone just wants to get some press herself I'm 63 been blogging for almost three years haven't done any reviews however I would if a product was something I used.  After all we're here to share our experiences in life and tell our stories.  If someone doesn't like what bloggers have evovled too tell them to go to Barnes and Nobles and buy books.

I love this writing world and hope we're around a long time each blogger doing what works for them and us readers choosing whatever makes us smile or where we are able to learn something from each other. Isn't there always a party pooper around.

My Best,

Dorothy from grammology

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melbs1969 5 pts

 i started blogging 2 years ago...as a mommy blogger.

and here i am, 2 years later...a mommy blogger.  i've had a couple of giveaways.  and i've done a couple reviews.  but really, i'm not huge on them so i don't accept them very often.

but...that's the choice i made. 

it's all about choices.  

i'm finding this whole thing so silly, aren't you?

you're bored?  got a little somethin' for you to read...http://www.rockanddrool.com

white trash mom 5 pts

 Why do you need badges? Exactly.

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white trash mom 5 pts

 I am with you sister, amen.

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white trash mom 5 pts

 I am with you sister, amen.

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white trash mom 5 pts

I don't get it. I totally agree with your point that the option of deleting emails or not responding to calls to do PR is a step in the right direction. Quick and easy to solution to all the STRESS. 

It's a free country, so if the blogger that started this boycott wants to create a PR Blackout, it's her right.  But the PR blackout makes me cringe a little, especially when it gets national media attention----she does not speak for all of us. 

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white trash mom 5 pts

I don't get it. I totally agree with your point that the option of deleting emails or not responding to calls to do PR is a step in the right direction. Quick and easy to solution to all the STRESS. 

It's a free country, so if the blogger that started this boycott wants to create a PR Blackout, it's her right.  But the PR blackout makes me cringe a little, especially when it gets national media attention----she does not speak for all of us. 

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norarachel 5 pts

 I like the idea of  "write well" month, or at least a "write" month. I tend to skip over review posts because I am not interested in them. (Bring on the boob and poop posts, and I'm right there with you, so that tells you something about my life right now.)

 Nora

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Mom101 5 pts

I thank you for your thoughtful response here. And for not calling me a whiny bitch. I'd hate to make the baby jesus cry.  (Kidding!)

I completely appreciate that this was an honest and sincere attempt to provide some relief to the bloggers in your community who, if nothing else, are extremely loyal to you and passionate about your site. It seems you've had some time to reasses the notion of this all and you're coming to some great conclusions. Even so, I stand by my premise that the name you assigned to the campaign, as well as some of your original comments around the web and your first follow-up post created a lot of unnecessary tension.

We all have to take responsibility for the words we use as bloggers.

It's still not too late to change the name of the campaign to something more positive, particularly if it's not accurately describing your original intent.

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Mom101 5 pts

I do want to add however that I don't have a problem with bloggers like MomDot creating a meme or spearheading an effort that will drive traffic to their blogs. In fact, I think that's probably a more admirable way to drive traffic than all these paid posts and sponsored giveaways. 

I'm seeing a lot of criticism of them "just trying to drive traffic" and I don't think that's inherently an issue. I just wish they weren't doing it at the expense of the PR industry.

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humanbeing 5 pts

I only review things I want to review, and then rarely, and then not for free product or etc. My journalism school training makes me cringe at the thought of it. I appreciate some of my favorite bloggers, like Miss Britt, who stopped promoting on her personal blog and instead created a second blog for that purpose.

I can understand the burnout of blogging contests and giveaways and reviews, but if some people are on that treadmill, they can just step off. I imagine this blackout is a bit of biting the hand that feeds.

Lynn @ human, being

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5m4m 5 pts

hit enter twice by accident - can you delete this comment? - thanks

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5m4m 5 pts

Janice and I just read this post together and we couldn't agree more. Couldn't have said it better! THANKS for a great post Liz!!!

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Don Mills Diva 5 pts

That's what happens when you have to move all weekend - damn real life...

 At any rate I did scan, rather than read, most of the comments and I have to agree with those who find the whole thing more than a little silly.

I used to love doing reviews. Then I started to get a dozen pitches a day and then it interferred with my writing and now I rarely do them. Easy- peasy - no need for a campaign and or a button.

For those of you who find it a worthwhile use of time to spend at least a few hours reviewing a $10 product, go crazy! Seriously - have fun...but know that I personally am not crazy about reading other people's takes on laundry detergent so I probably won't be reading or entering a contest...it's not worth my time.

It's pretty straightforward and turning it into a huge issue and calling for a PR blackout, etc, etc...well it just makes the whole community look LAME.

Every week there's a new controversy in the mommy-blogging community and every week we look lamer and lamer (more lame?)

I don't even talk to my real life friends about these things anymore because I just feel embarassed and, given my threshold for shame, that should tell you that things are getting really lame out there...

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haasiegirl 5 pts

Liz,

 The only real comment I am going to make regarding this article is that your information on how you displayed it is incorrect. Had you listened to the show that this idea came from, which was from a Blog Talk Radio show and the callers more than a week ago, you would have seen that the idea stemmed from stressed out bloggers with PR, obligations, trips, stats, and feeling as if they have to blog all the time to keep up with the Jones' so to speak. In fact, it started from a forum discussion that went into a Vlog, then to a radio show, were we listened to our callers and chat room discussers. This wasn't a single person decision, although I am now personally bearing the brunt of it. Not that I care.

 During that show it was a very spontaneous non-thought out idea where we named it ON the BTR show. In fact, it took 4 days before we got around to even talking about it on our site and it was very well received and non controversial, bringing in no more than about 15 comments. 

If was after a "journalist" got ahold of it, twisted it, turned it into PR bashing, FTC, and Blogger ethics, where bloggers turned and tweeted very hurtful and mean things about my family, my child, and my blog, that I put up a second post, the on you referred to as basically a challenge calling bloggers weak. In fact, that blog was a RESPONSE to the tweets and journalist posts attacking our community.

Our point was who is being more whiny...the bloggers freaking out on twitter or the 'reporters' looking to bash mommy bloggers. It was not a challenge to bloggers not participating. Unfortunately, you would needed to have followed all of it as it unfolded to realize that and I can understand how it would have been confusing if you came into it from the outside. I was out of town during nearly all of this and had very little time to come on and set the record straight. 

If you listen to our BTR show we even said right on the show "I guess if you want to do a blog only  with content and join us for the week, except review bloggers of course". You can hear it right there.

Additionally, MomDot itself turns down or passes PR daily. But that does not mean that the 100s of emails weekly stop coming in. If I delete them, follow up emails come. I spend 3 hours a day returning emails before it even comes to writing about products, which if you visit our blog at all, know is extremely rare. I really love my PR reps and I realize they have a job to do, so I do feel obligated to be friendly and nice to them. Its in my nature, even if it eats up quite a bit of personal time. But the point for our blackout came from getting back to basics. We also said during our show, this can be a MomDot thing for our community. We didnt realize anyone else would even consider participating...my personal blog has no where near the amount of traffic as the main domain and generally just hits my 'regular' readers who know me well.

Had we some big plan thought out where we had a whole idea ready and thought the blogosphere would even be slightly interested, we would have got it together better...but as it was just a thought, we took our first ideas and went with them.

I can say the only reporter that actually interviewed or cared to actually talk to us befor they turned it into some Britney Spears smear campaign was PR Week and they got the story right, quotes right, and more. We apprieciate them taking the time to follow the actual storyline. 

A long time ago, I attacked General Mills in a blog post that got some massive traction on a quote they were quoted in PR Week about bloggers. I felt they were taking advantage of bloggers and the quote sincerely infuriated me. I blogged quite angrily and that post went like wildfire, generating over 100 comments, which is big for my site. In that post, General Mills emailed me and wanted to talk. I put on my big girl panties (even though I was slightly embaressed) and called them. The guy I had insulted in my email, even calling him "Dimwit" from his name Dimmit, was extremly nice, funny, and while he made no excuses, he told me that THEY were misquoted in the media and my response was based on false info. I NOW know what they mean. I put up a public apology right after that phone call. In some way, I deserve all this happening back at me. 

Regardless, one thing that came out of this was clearly a discussion that needed to happen. There ARE bloggers stressed out and its not for me, or for anyone else, to judge how they deal with that. MomDot is simply a community site that supports those bloggers. 

Unfortunately in the process, our families were threatened, our children were called ugly, we were told we were bad mothers, had a bad site....there was very little constructive talk that came out of it. When women get together it was like a mob mentality and it really made me rethink blogger ethics. I used to  defend them and say OF COURSE bloggers have ethics, its journalists that attack us, that are scared, that write what they want. 

But I was wrong. Its everyone. Ethics come from within, they do not come from a job. Our community is supporting, not judging, the women that want to get back to basics or want a week to black out PR. It doesn't even matter WHAT you call it, because its the same thing, so the title is irrelevant. What I can understand is why other people feel the need to judge what we did in our community when it was hurting no one else. You participate, great. You don't, no problem. 

Let me reiterate, the 2nd blog post was not an attack at bloggers not participating, but the whiny very very rude and mob mentality we had been putting up with for hours. And yes, if you had seen what I did, you would be calling people whiny as well. 

I just find little to no excuse on us having to defend ourselves period and I stick to my words that many bloggers are stressed, many attribute it to PR, and I do foresee PR and Mom Bloggers finding a way to be more loyal to brands, rather than saturating the community.

 If some bloggers want to get together to celebrate our families and work together to cross promote our posts so our readers can get used to leaving the reviews/giveaways behind, those that don't want to participate should be happy that there are more PR for them....rather than being upset with the WEEK we decided to do our content challenge.

I am also frustrated that everywhere I go, I am getting accosted and accused of doing this for "traffic". Trust me, this is NOT what I wanted to come out of this. I was on a trip for Fleishman-Hillard and iRobot the day after this all happened. It was clearly not my intentions to insult PR as a result  and most certainly not the day prior to me going on a PR summit. 

I have vlogged all of this because I am apparently a "shitty" writer and bad at explaining things, trust me, i have heard about it. Along with my "ugly" child, the fact that i am "on the Internet too much", and that anyone that follows MomDot are "goons".

So just in case I didn't explain or come across this time, here is my official response in Vlogging. I encourage you to listen and hope that you will:

http://www.momdot.com/blog/our-last-word-on-itand-...

Thanks for your perspective. 

 ~Trisha

Momdot.com 

Mom101 5 pts

Understandably, most PR folks don't want to chime in publically here so I really appreciate your input (and others on this thread) from the publicist POV. 

You hit the nail on the head when you write Product sampling began as a mutually beneficial opportunity for
marketers and mom bloggers alike -- marketers generated visibility for
their products, moms found a way to create more content for their
blogs. This content, in the form of reviews, coupons, giveaways and the
like, attracts readers. Which ups blogger visitor numbers. Which
creates opportunities -- including paid opportunities -- for those
bloggers.

I truly hope that bloggers can come away ffrom these discussions with a better understanding that sampling is not intended to be compensation for the time and effort of writing a review.

And I'm particularly glad to hear you acknowledge that a proper review takes time. It certainly does!

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Mom101 5 pts

Thank you for a good reminder that semantics and precision of communication do matter in blogging, Heather. 

Perhaps Susan's line would have been better stated as:

Instead of polarizing boycotts...let's all pledge to continue blogging with integrity." 

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h.e.eigler 5 pts

Thanks for the lesson but I'm fully aware of the difference between honesty and integrity.

The quote is:

"Instead of polarizing boycotts, teeth gnashing and wailing, let’s all pledge to Blog with Integrity."

So, those of us who are participating in Blackout are void of integrity? I don't think there is any other way to read into this.  Insulting is it not? 

And it's not about "loyalty that has shifted from readers to the PR professionals who Send The Stuff."  Loyalty has nothing to do with it.  It's about obligation.  Our obligations have shifted and that's the problem. 

h.e.eigler 5 pts

Yes, there is a way for us to work together and I do work with PR sometimes and sometimes it's a lovely experience.  I'm not saying there is no place for PR at my blog ...but at the same time, if I never worked for PR again I'd
be just fine.

It's the idea some mentioned that we're shooting ourselves in the foot that I don't like.  PR is not the core of my blog and in my opinion it shouldn't be the core of any blog. Voice, focus, personality and readership are
at the core - sure PR has a room in the house, but it's not the biggest one.

Working with small companies is very different than working with (most) PR. Most of the time I'm making a connection with another mom.  She's searched me out specifically based on what kind of content I write. She has a very limited budget so she only pitches
on topic.  She will comment on my blog.  She will comment on my readers blogs. Often she'll link to my post from her own blog if she has one.

She shares her story with me and I can write about her product or company because I want to support another mom - not a faceless brand.  My readers find these stories inspirational and I don't believe they feel that when I write about corporate companies.

Stephanie Azzarone 5 pts

Liz,

Thank you for your balanced and well written summary of the Blogger Blackout. And kudos to the many of you who responded with truly thoughtful comments.

As a publicist who has worked with mom bloggers for the past few years, I'd like to make the following observations:

Public relations agencies are not the enemy, and for bloggers to position us as such is self defeating.  Product sampling began as a mutually beneficial opportunity for marketers and mom bloggers alike -- marketers generated visibility for their products, moms found a way to create more content for their blogs. This content, in the form of reviews, coupons, giveaways and the like, attracts readers. Which ups blogger visitor numbers. Which creates opportunities -- including paid opportunities -- for those bloggers. For the mom bloggers we've worked with on a consistent basis, this has included profiles on our corporate blog and exposure in our company newsletter (circulated to more than a thousand other companies), fun meets-ups hosted by us or our clients, paid spokesperson gigs, blogger conference sponsorships and more.
When these and other opportunities occur, whom do you think we should offer them to, the moms who always come through for us, or the ones who don't respond to our emails?

No marketer ever forced a blogger to post reviews -- let's all try to remember that. While some moms were already doing reviews before marketers got into the act, many began separate review sites because they saw the possibilities in partnering with us.  If certain mom bloggers are just plain tired of doing product reviews and feel put upon for doing so, they should simply stop – please! We’d all be happier in the end. Strangely, the force behind this bloggy blackout runs a business that specializes in product reviews. What am I missing here?
If moms want to review only certain kinds of products, why not let us know? If anything other than a car or appliance is not of interest, save us a lot of time and energy, and our clients the cost of products and shipping. But be aware that there are a lot more $25 items out there – including some anyone would love – than there are loaner cars and high-priced refrigerators.
We're not blind – those of us who have been around for awhile know that as more companies have become aware of bloggers’ value, moms are being bombarded. And we know a proper review takes a lot of time – that’s why we so appreciate those bloggers who take it all seriously and do a great job. We hope they will remain loyal to the companies and the PR agencies that have worked with them from the start and respect the ones that respect them. For those who would rather not, perhaps we PR types should launch our own Blogger Blackout.
That having been said – would you please let me know who sent the shirtless Hugh Jackman, so that I can get in touch?

DonnaChaffins 5 pts

I left a comment about this very subject on the Jessica Knows blog.  So instead of re-writing it I'm copying and pasting it in.

Speaking as someone who has blogged for over 15 months
and is just starting to dip my toes into the review/giveaway waters and
maybe because I'm a wee bit older (the 40s are the new 20s), I have
some maturity behind me... I know when to say "no". I've received
countless PR pitches over the last 3 months and many of the free
products were enticing but I was busy with other obligations.

I
freelance and have another website I have been working on that is in a
soft launch right now, my blog and most importantly my family. They
always come first. So I knew, no matter how much I love "free" stuff,
by committing myself to a review/giveaway, something might have to
suffer.

I will be doing my first review next week (something
small - baby steps) about something I would buy anyway and it fits in
my schedule. I really don't understand the burnout among mommy
bloggers. And right there is a big problem with me. "Mommy bloggers".
You don't hear about tech/gadget bloggers, social media bloggers and
entertainment bloggers, as an example gathering together for a PR
blackout (or any kind of blackout) for that matter.

It makes
it seem like moms just can't handle the pressure. I for one, do not
like the message these sends. Yes, everyone can suffer burnout from one
time or another. If you work out of the home, your job can cause
stress. Being a stay at home mom can be stressful. You learn to say NO.
You take a break. You can come together as a mommy community and lift
each other up... say, "take a little break", we'll be here when you get
back. I don't think the answer is - let's all take the same week off
from PR. If you work for a company, you get a vacation... if everyone
in the company takes the vacation at the same time - it seems more like
a "walk-out" or "strike".

I am not saying anything bad about
any women/mom who needs to take a break from reviewing, blogging or
whatever it is that is causing her stress. I support these women... you
need to take breaks more often! The hardest working women in the world
are moms - and you should be revered.

I know I'll be bashed
for my views. But this is just MY opinion on the matter... and you know
what they say about opinions... :-)  I also want to add that I've read all the posts I could find regarding the PR Blackout and watched her vlog... and my opinion has not changed.
Donna

Mom101 5 pts

Blogging with integrity isn't meant to be the alternative to writing about products, and it's certainly not meant to imply that those who work with marketers are lacking in integrity. 

But it seems to me that this "burnout," from comments and posts I've been reading, is in part due to loyalty that has shifted from readers to the PR professionals who Send The Stuff.

Integrity is being used interchangably with "honesty" and the two are not the same. Integrity doesn't just mean being honest in a review, it also means having strong moral principles (that's Webster speaking).

As Kim from MomDot wrote on her Bloggy Burnout ( http://www.momdot.com/blog/my-bloggy-burnout/ )post:  "I realized that the blog is not the problem.  I am the problem.  My greed.  My desire to have as much “stuff” as I can."  I 100% laud her honesty. And I don't think she's alone.

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that_danielle 5 pts

I have to agree with Liz here. This is not about one clique fighting with another clique. It's about people with similar opinions disagreeing with other people with different opinions. It's much more than "catfighting" when party makes overarching statements that "mom bloggers are simply doing too much," and then it starts snowballing, there is a tendency for outsiders to think all mom bloggers agree and are complaining about the same things. The whole thing could have been avoided by saying "I feel that my blog has become too focused on products so for a week I'm going to focus on why I got into blogging for a week and write about my family/whatever and work on my time management skills. Anyone want to join me?"

I'm not part of any clique or posse or tribe or whatever -- I came to this post because I saw Liz's tweet about her article and was curious ("PR Blackout" - was there a blackout in Puerto Rico?). I have no vested interest in siding with anyone because I don't know anyone. Hell, I'm going to BlogHer for the first time and I'm wondering if I'll end up clinging to the wall because I know maybe 5 people who'll be there and I don't want to cling to them.

So when I say this whole thing is NUTS, it's only coming from being a professional blogger meaning blogging has been my full-time job for over two years, that I ran a blog that was getting 25 million pageviews at the time I left plus I dealt with PR everyday and was constantly buried by my inbox. So it is with these qualifications and no affiliation with any blogging community whether it be BlogHer, MomDot, whatever, that I can say that I...

am annoyed by this attention-getting stance that MomDot has taken and the fact that it is snowballing,
am concerned that it may further the view that mommy bloggers are unprofessional,
along with other women bloggers may be lumped in with this highly unprofessional crew. This on the heels of the FTC cracking down on samples and swag... none of which helps any of us.
I don't care how few or how many readers you have, if you start making statements like "mom bloggers are simply doing too much" and then start complaining that we are as stressed out as car company CEOs, enlist people to join you in shunning ANYONE for a week, complaining that people who have an issue with it are whining and then insinuating that if we don't join you, we're not strong enough ( http://www.momdot.com/blog/prblackout2/ ), it's going to leave a bad impression on everyone who doesn't agree with you. You're being completely disrepectful and irresponsible and it affects me, it affects anyone who is a mom who blogs and we have a right to voice our displeasure.

Danielle Friedland
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Formerly of Celebrity Baby Blog
(Yes, I created it and sold it to Time Inc.)

Mom101 5 pts

I couldn't agree more Kelly, that if we all focused on terrific writing and engaging content, whatever it is that we write about, a lot of these issues would go away. In any case, I have slowly (and admittedly a little sadly) come to the
realization that not all bloggers are writers at heart nor do they want
to be.

Meanwhile, have you ever read Amalah ( http://amalah.com )? That girl can write about products and have you begging for more. Read her Deodorant Wars ( http://www.amalah.com/amalah/2008/07/deodorant-war... )for starters and tell me she doesn't deserve a book deal.

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Mom101 5 pts

I would think him singing show tunes would be part of the appeal! (Well, except for that Andrew Lloyd Weber stuff.)

I think this is actually a really relevant discussion for a whole lot of bloggers as evidenced by the number of comments here. It's good for us to explore our own relationships with brands and marketers, how invested we are with them, and how we handle burnout or assess priorities. I'm sorry that the tone of some of the comments leads you to feel that it's merely some sort of insignificant cliquey sqabbling.

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superdumb 5 pts

This whole debate reminds me of clique in-fighting in high school and I feel similarly inclined to put on my headphones and let it all pass me by.

And, also: I wouldn't turn Hugh Jackman away from my door, even if he was singing show tunes. Just in case you were wondering.  

Naomi

http://superdumbsupervillain.blogspot.com/

Marisblogs 5 pts

I think it's interesting how everyone on here keeps qualifying themselves as a "big" or "small" blogger. Whether you have 1000 readers a day or 12, your voice matters!

Marisblogs 5 pts

We want to take a vacation from PR to get back to our roots, discover our love of blogging again and be refreshed. What is wrong with that?
Reviewing products is blogging. Blogging can be whatever you make it. And if you need a vacation from it, by all means, take one, but a blackout and a vacation are two different things.

Marisblogs 5 pts

PR people aren't trying to be pushy.. we're just doing our jobs, trying to get the word out there.  I understand there is a tremendous amount of stuff coming at bloggers/magazine editors and it can be overwhelming.  My thoughts are just stop reviewing products if you don't like to, just put all the stuff in the "closet" if it gets to be too much and don't hestitate to tell a PR person to stop sending products. 
I agree! PR is not an easy job. It's challenging, fast paced and strenuous at times. If we send someone a pitch that they don't feel is relevant, it's not a personal vendetta.  As far as your other comment, I'm on the same page as you too. I would have a very, very difficult time if I didn't believe in the brands or products that I work on. 

Marisblogs 5 pts

@Heather: I hear you, but as someone in PR and a blogger and I think PR is very much core to blogs - just not all of them. Some blogs distribute news. To learn that news, they need PR. Some bloggers prefer to write about their own lives and some of us do both. PR isn't core to blogs the same way PR and traditional journalism go hand-in-hand, but there is a way for us to work synergistically. 

How is working with PR different than working with small companies? As you mentioned in your post. I think no matter what the size of the company, PR professionals all want to accomplish the same goal, no?

cagey333 5 pts

 Good grief, looks like someone did some stunt posting over at Momdot.  With stellar results.

Kelli Oliver George

http://rancidraves.blogspot.com/

Rita Arens 7 pts

Rock on, Liz.

Rita Arens writes at Surrender Dorothy ( http://surrenderdorothy.typepad.com ) and BlogHer and is the editor of Sleep is for the Weak ( http://tinyurl.com/9pg62e ).

KimMoldofsky 5 pts

On reading all four pages of comments, that is.

I love your comment back to Megan. "I think at first bloggers feel very honored by the attention
from marketers and eventually, the relationship gets away from them. I
could imagine that if you don't have a really tight reign on why you're
blogging, as some of the commens above suggest, you end up someplace
you didn't want to be."

True that!

 Kim

http://HormoneColoredDays.blogspot.com
Chicago Moms Blog

@KimMoldofsky

conversemomma 5 pts

PR MOM, you bring up an interesting point. As much as I don't want to read blog to learn about products, I do realize it is hypocritical of me to speak negatively about that behavior and then call myself a feminist. I realize that some women are using their blogs to make money, to support families, to empower themselves. Right? I mean, women are making that sort of money. Aren't they? If I did not have outside income from working full-time, and I needed cash, or baby supplies, or whatever... I guess I might have a totally different take on things. I guess it really does go back to the idea, as Elisa said, to each their own. I think the part that just frustrates me is the perception we get as womenbloggers. I want people to consider my writing. Really consider it. I want to take my blog, that crazy house of rough drafts, and elevate it to some real literary writing. I have spoken with agents, and a few small publishers, on an anthology I'm trying to market, and there is a general sense (from some) that we are not really serious writers. Part of that is definitely the self-publishing aspect. Anyone can have a blog, and when so many women are getting so much attention for hawking cleaning products and lipstick...I don't  know. I wonder if the product placement plays a role in the outside world questioning our integrity as real writers or journalists. I wonder if some of the problem is the memes and the boob festivals. I don't know. I don't mean to shoot my mouth off. I'm trying to figure it out like so many of us.

Peace,

Kelly

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phdinparenting 5 pts

I think they saw you holding @muddybootsblog's baby and assumed it was yours! 

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prmama 5 pts

I think this blog is spot on.  As a former News Reporter for over a decade turned PR Manager I have been on both sides of the story, so to speak.  I only entered PR after having my first son and could not bear the thought of leaving him in daycare for the long hours of reporting.  One of my close friends asked me to do PR for her comany and I now have a financial adviser as a client as well. 

I have to say, as a news reporter I found PR people annyoing, dishonest and pushy.. however.. no one was pushing products on me.  THey were pushing big business and city government, and hospitals etc...I was not allowed to take any products as it was not relevant.

I only chose to do PR because I am working from home and only represent two companies I deeply believe in. I couldn't push products/services I didn't stand by 100% because it is a grueling industry.  You are competing with so many other products your only way is to send yours and call and pester to see if they looked at it or like it.  One of my clients is in the beauty industry and I was SHOCKED at how difficult and competitive it is.  We are constantly sending free $100 bottles of perfume to edtiors who may or may not ever review it.  I've had some fabulous press and I've had people tell me "it's in the closet with all the other products."  Some editors will send the product back and for that I'm grateful.

PR people aren't trying to be pushy.. we're just doing our jobs, trying to get the word out there.  I understand there is a tremendous amount of stuff coming at bloggers/magazine editors and it can be overwhelming.  My thoughts are just stop reviewing products if you don't like to, just put all the stuff in the "closet" if it gets to be too much and don't hestitate to tell a PR person to stop sending products. 

I love reading blogs, I don't like it when everything is product reviews so I can totally relate, but I love hearing about the odd product you really believe in.  At to purposely block-out honest, hardworking people hurts just a little  :)

RelationshipQueen 5 pts

I have been blogging since 2000, wow that's almost ten years. It was a blog on Livejournal and it was years before I saw someone review a product. Now, I notice it a lot on people's blogs and had no clue that people were doing it for money/free stuff. Of course, I'm not knocking anyone who does it, I just don't think I could do it on mine because it takes away from my blog. I don't run any ads or promote items. Now, with that being said, if OPRAH wanted to promote something on my blog, you know I couldn't turn her down. I can't really talk about the PR Blackout because I am not in the mix with any sort of PB group but if it's gotten to the point where there needs to be a blackout, maybe we should take a few steps back and reevaluate our blogs and ourselves. While some of you will be boycotting products and PR, I will be boycotting this damn diet I just started.

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conversemomma 5 pts

Elisa, you so just put me in my place. Love it! I know. I know. You are right. I have to keep an open mind about Blogher. I will. Promise!

Peace,

Kel

http://www.ordinaryartblog.com ( http://www.ordinaryartblog.com/ )

that_danielle 5 pts

I am attending BlogHer for the first time and now I know how to break the ice with people I don't know. "What's your take on the PR Blackout thing?"

Danielle Friedland
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Formerly of Celebrity Baby Blog
(Yes, I created it and sold it to Time Inc.)

Elisa Camahort 5 pts

"It's embarrasing for the rest of us bloggers to have to sit here and be lumped in with all of you who seem to use any reason to just get at each other."

I'm sure it's no less frustrating for the hundreds of women who are *not* taking place in the discussion, and who will be at BlogHer, for you to lump them in and think this conversation is what BlogHer is all about.

You know?

My mantra about BlogHer '09 (shared on Twitter the other day):

There will be 1,500 people there. Many of them will care about things that you do not. Ignore, move one, to each their own.

Check out the agenda ( http://www.blogher.com/blogher_conference/conf/9/a... ), find your tribe, let other people find theirs...irrelevant (to you) debates and all!

And y'all: Kelly is speaking on the panel about the Transformative Power of Blogging, and she has a really powerful story to tell. Go hear it!

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BlogHer
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conversemomma 5 pts

I have this recurring nightmare that Blogher is just going to be one large room of Mommybloggers arguing about product placement. URG! Seriously, doesn't anyone just write anymore for the love of it, for the cadence of words dropping on the page, the power of community built around shared experiences, the ink of our blog skin? 

Please say yes! Please tell me you will be at Blogher! Please let me hug you like a Koala and just cling.

This whole debate is tiresome. If you want to do product placement/reviews do it. I won't read you, but heck tons of other women will. If you don't want to do it, don't. Just stop fargin arguing about it already. It's embarrasing for the rest of us bloggers to have to sit here and be lumped in with all of you who seem to use any reason to just get at each other.

Damn!

(Sorry. I'm just really wondering what the heck I'm doing going to Blogher, if this is what it is all about.)

Peace,
Kelly

http://www.ordinaryartblog.com ( http://www.ordinaryartblog.com/ )

Maria Niles 5 pts

They haven't seen Taye Diggs in person because the man has flames shooting off his body he's so hot. ;)

But Hugh Jackman? Now he isn't the first guy that would come to mind, but to paraphrase my friend Linda, if he showed up shirtless at my door I wouldn't kick him out for being under-dressed.

< /derail & hijacking of Liz's excellent discussion>

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Erin Kotecki Vest 5 pts

Calling those types of people carpetbaggers is fair. Sigh. Not to mention the others but...I digress ;)

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Erin Kotecki Vest 5 pts

and yes and yes. and you have a girl name. they just assume too.

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sassymonkey 6 pts

I keep getting emails addressed to HEY MOMMYBLOGGER or asking me to take part in a discussion about midwives? Does the fact that I don't have kids really not matter to the publicists? Because really, I just was starting to wonder if I was abducted by aliens or had my memory obliviated or something.

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Kami Lewis Levin 5 pts

Kami

http://www.livefromthefence.blogspot.com

I began my blog in April of this year.  My decision to blog came about because I wanted to share my experiences as a working mom and feel less isolated as a result.  I quickly discovered that the community of women who blog is vast and I felt empowered by simply being part of it in whatever small a way.  This PR Blackout idea is interesting because it appears that many bloggers use their blogs as a vehicle through which to get stuff.  But, many other bloggers use their blogs to connect.  Or vent.  Or rage against the machine.  Everything we write has a spin, product-based or not.  Would then a true PR Blackout include a ban on our own ideas?  Ideas, that we clearly promote/advocate for through our blogs?  I understand that's not the intent here, but that's what this whole thing raised for me.  Bloggers are PR people in effect.  We're marketing and packaging ourselves.  I guess when we're doing too much PR for other products, it's easy to lose sight of our own.  Which is personal.  Because it's who we are.  

Erin Kotecki Vest 5 pts

Hugh Jackman does nothing for me

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