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BlogHer '09: An Interview with Style Guru Carson Kressley, Plus A Word About The Great Nikon Baby Incident!

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Can I just tell you that although I had a fabulous time at BlogHer '09 in Chicago, I am wiped out? All those bloggers, all those sessions, all those parties!   However, get 1500 women bloggers together in one place with their laptops and their attitudes and you're bound to not only have lots of fun but maybe a bit of controversy.

But first things, first.  One of the celebs that made an appearance at BlogHer '09 in Chicago was style maven and TV host, Carson Kressley.   Carson attended the conference to give out style tips, chat with BlogHers and also to represent BlogHer sponsor, Nikon and their "How To Look Good In Pictures"
campaign.   To publicize the campaign, Nikon threw a swanky cocktail
party the first night of the conference at Chicago's Flatwater club.

Though many BlogHers attended, not all of them had the chance to interview Carson like I did.  During the party, my fellow CE Laurie and I chowed down on delicious noshies--my favorite was the bacon wrapped shrimp--specialty drinks and for dessert, homemade marshmallows dipped in a chocolate fountain.  Hmmm...decadent!

There were makeup and photography tips for the BlogHers and a chance to see some of the Nikon CoolPix cameras.

Last year I did a podcast interview with the very smart and funny Kelly Park, one of the guests on Carson's Lifetime show, "How To Look Good Naked."  So I was very excited to have the chance to chat with Carson himself.

A little note about the video, because where we were sitting was dimly lit, there's flaring from the street lights behind Carson.  That'll teach me to bring a video light next time. 

Otherwise Carson was fantastic.  He talks about "How To Look Good Naked," his anticipation of the return of "Project Runway," which designer he thinks is an up and comer, and finally a special hobby he has which you may not know about.

Enjoy.

 

The Great Nikon Baby Incident

Now to the Great Nikon Baby Incident as I like to call it.  The day after the Nikon party, I started seeing hashtags on Twitter that said "#nikonhatesbabies."  Curious, I discovered that a couple of women invited to the Nikon party were disinvited when they tried to bring their babies along.  Evidently the women felt that since BlogHer was such a baby friendly conference, the parties would be as well.  However, the party wasn't a BlogHer party but a sponsor party and the rules were very different.

So one of the Mom's involved facetiously put the hashtag on Twitter and before you could say "Nikon Babies," several mommybloggers took it seriously, and took high offense.  All of a sudden there were posts about how Nikon hate's babies, how Nikon hates women and especially how Nikon hates babies and women! 

Meetings were held!  Boycotts were called!  The president arrived in Chicago to negotiate!

Well--I don't know if meetings were held, boycotts were only implied, and the president came to Chicago to talk about healthcare.

From what I've read, it also seems that Nikon may not have been the problem at all, but the Flatwater club was.  The blog Eat, Play, Love put it this way:

As I have gathered, this event was not a part of the conference but rather a branding event put on by Nikon to wow and schmooze the A List Bloggers of all disciplines, not just mommy bloggers. Even more technically speaking, "Nikon" didn't actually turn these women and their babies away, the restaurant did, silly 21 and under laws.

Then the whole issue kicked into a debate about:

  1. Whether it was right for any mother to bring a baby to a cocktail party.
  2. Whether Nikon should have made it clear in advance babies weren't allowed.
  3. Whether Nikon had made a bad PR move.

Nicole at Kicking Sand thought Nikon had blundered:

My bet is that plenty of the party's attendees had a good experience, all aside, and the vocal frustration of said mommy blogger/s to get inside of the party is testament to the desire to see what Nikon had to offer. Was Nikon's brand tarnished to ever-lasting effect? No. Did it have a marketing/pr #fail? Yes. One small hiccup derailed what could have been reported to corporate as a wholly positive experience, instead

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Megan Smith 5 pts

Hopefully you'll be able to make it next year, children or not!  Thanks for commenting.

Megan
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DD 5 pts

"Finally, the only thing that bugged me a little, as a single woman without a baby, was the inference by some of the indignant mommybloggers and Twitterers, that the Nikon party and BlogHer itself was only for them.  Ladies, I hate to burst your bubble, but they were not."

Unfortunately, the idea that BlogHer is for mommybloggers is quite prevelant. Especially amongst the mommybloggers.

I had made plans to attend this year, but due to circumstances, was not. But my intent was to go and meet bloggers, not their children - as a adorable as they are. Maybe their can be a conference spin-off called Bloggin'Babes in that can schedule and entire agenda specifically around children and their blogging moms (or dads). I especially like that idea because I could then attend both (and both times I'd go sans children!).

~ DD ~

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Megan Smith 5 pts

I missed Carson shirtless!  Anyone got pictures!?

He was the perfect celeb for something like this because from everything I heard and experienced, he was a really good sport. 

I meet several Mom bloggers who, like you, didn't not want themselves referred to as mommybloggers in any way, shape or form.  One woman told me her blog was her escape from the world of mommy-hood.

But as with everything, to each her own.

I'm glad you had a good time and thanks for commenting.

Megan
BlogHer Contributing Editor, TV/Online Video ( http://www.blogher.com/blog/megan-smith )

Megan's Minute ( http://www.megansminute.com/

Megan Smith 5 pts

Hi Deb,

You make some excellent points, especially this:

It traveled, I think, for two reasons--mommyblogger advocacy for inclusion parenting, and because saying "You are not welcome" is a symbolic sorespot for people in general and moms in particular. And I think, and this is where party throwers need to pay attention, these private events create a lot of hidden bad will that once unleashed is brutal. 

I also think there's an element of people feeling they can use Twitter and Facebook to get back at "mean old corporations."  Sometimes that's a great and effective way to make a corporation that's doing something really wrong, take notice of what the masses are thinking.   However when the Twittosphere gets their facts wrong, it can result in a backlash.

I think there is a place for private sponsor parties during an event like BlogHer, because not everyone can be invited to everything.  Also when you have a celeb at an event, it brings publicity for the sponsor so that probably balances out any bad will there might be from people who weren't invited.

I actually think Nikon was pretty smart because they made Carson available on site at the conference for those attendees who wanted to see him and then made him available at the private event for interviews.  To me that's smart PR.  I didn't even bother to try and see him at the conference because I knew I would have access to him later on that day.

But as you say, the sponsor has to get almost everything right, for the uninvited not to raise a ruckus.

Great seeing you again and thanks for commenting.

Megan
BlogHer Contributing Editor, TV/Online Video ( http://www.blogher.com/blog/megan-smith )

Megan's Minute ( http://www.megansminute.com/

Houseonahill 5 pts

I thought a riot was happening when Carson Kressley took his shirt off at the EXPO!

It was such a wonderful conference. There will always be the folks who want too find a problem, unfortunately.

Chicago has "family friendly" spots and they are all well-known both via directories and word-of-mouth. However, I just do not see how a cocktail party, or anything that is not around lunch or early afternoon is ever child-appropriate.

BUT I am one of those moms that does not define myself as a "Mommyblogger" or by any label ~ born in the 60's, I'm just trying to be free at ALL cost, about everything!

Not to mention, how uncomfortable for any baby or toddler in spaces like that - crowded...loud...and Im always thinking about safety and small ones being crushed in venues not really meant for them.

Whatever I get is great, if I don't, I cope and all is well! Poor Nikon, best to have a specific team to plan for when around that much estrogen.

Great post!!

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Deb Rox 5 pts

Great recap!

 What fascinates me about the Nikon controversy is that it has interesting legs. I think it has viral legs because it pushes buttons about being invited or not.

 Nikon obviously made a communication problem by not being clear in their communications with their invitees, and may not have helped problemsolve the problem well immediately which led to the Tweet.

 But why did it rock the world?  Why did her friends not just tweet back "That sucks! Wanna have dinner with us?" 

It traveled, I think, for two reasons--mommyblogger advocacy for inclusion parenting, and because saying "You are not welcome" is a symbolic sorespot for people in general and moms in particular.  And I think, and this is where party throwers need to pay attention, these private events create a lot of hidden bad will that once unleashed is brutal.  People who are not invited are ready to pounce on the flaws of a private-party goer, and the defenses from the other party goers is meaningless, because they of course were wined and dined.  You are suspect, sorry. It was very easy for the retweeters to feel very much like they were that baby, told there was no room at the Nikon Inn.  Or they were like that mother, made to feel foolish for wanting to go on her own terms. People were saying, in part, #nikonhatesme. 

In many fields, this "bad will" isn't as visible or publicized--yet, and there are clearer ways of earning inclusion.  If a Big Pharma company is known for golf retreats, doctors either get with the program and use that drug to get on the list, or they don't. Doctors aren't yet hooked into or willing to use organized social media to run them down immediately...though that is developing.  Things are changing.  PR companies are going to have to evaluate if private events really make sense.  Impress 20 people and their readers, but potentially piss off 2.000 and more if you make a mistake that could get yardage? I think this was very cheap tuition if PR companies pay attention to the bad will private events can create.

Moreover, a private event in conjunction with the BlogHer conference ensures that the whole BlogHer audience knows about it. PR companies might like this, thinking it gives them an audience of over a thousand who long to get in good with Nikon.  But it doesn't, not with bloggers.  Exclusion doesn't breed longing anymore, not if it is right in front of your face.  It breeds distaste. 

I wish the Nikons would understand that supporting BlogHer as a whole, or supporting a number of grassroots groups, instead of plucking a few bloggers here and there as VIPs, is a smarter way to go and leaves them less open for the schadenfraude of the uninvited.

Deb
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Megan Smith 5 pts

I meant to mention that "Project Runway" will premiere on Lifetime on August 20th.  I'm also really looking forward to it.

Dark or not, I'm glad you liked the interview!

Megan
BlogHer Contributing Editor, TV/Online Video ( http://www.blogher.com/blog/megan-smith )

Megan's Minute ( http://www.megansminute.com/

Megan Smith 5 pts

I appreciate that you asked your non-Mom friends what they thought about the mommyblogger/swag situation.  It shows a sensitivity that many others could take a cue from. 

I didn't have too many issues relating to the swag because anything appropriate will go to my surrogate kids, and there were enough coupons and tote bags to make me happy.

You make a good point that babies may be perky and awake in the evening because they take naps.  That doesn't however mean they should be allowed at every evening event.  

Megan
BlogHer Contributing Editor, TV/Online Video ( http://www.blogher.com/blog/megan-smith )

Megan's Minute ( http://www.megansminute.com/

Megan Smith 5 pts

I think it's great that BlogHer is so baby friendly and I saw many a well managed baby being carried around by her Mom.   But I agree with you that the attitude, "my baby should be welcome wherever I am" is not reasonable.

Thanks for your insightful comments

Megan
BlogHer Contributing Editor, TV/Online Video ( http://www.blogher.com/blog/megan-smith )

Megan's Minute ( http://www.megansminute.com/

unachicana 5 pts

As you mentioned, needed better lighting, but you got a great interview here. (I'm also eager for Project Runway to return.) 

ResourcefulMommy 5 pts

Resourceful Mommy blogs about parenting, family, and women's issues at www.resourcefulmommy.com ( http://www.resourcefulmommy.com/ ).

I'm a mom - as the moniker would indicate - and I love, love, (shamelessly) love swag and events that cater to my children.  However, I specifically sought out some folks on Saturday who I knew to be kid free to find out what they thought of all the swag geared towards mommy bloggers: toys, dvds, PBS stars, oh my!  I was told that a.) duh, we have nieces and nephews b.) it wasn't as much for kids as it seemed to those rejoicing over it and c.) who cares?  It turns out based just on my admitedly small sampling that my righteous indignation for non-mom bloggers was not only not wanted, but not needed.

 As for the Nikon "issue" (which escaped my knowledge until now!), I do think that if you are at a conference where babies are welcome it is worthwhile finding out if your venue of choice will allow the baby-wearing moms invited to attend to actually wear their babies.  Truly, babies are often bright-eyed and bushytailed in the evening having napped several times during the day, and really, where were these women going to place their babies while attending the party?  I would never think to check with a restaurant - no matter how swanky - regarding their policy on babies, and I'm sure these moms did not think about that either.  The responsibility was in the hands of the sponsor.  That said, saying that a major corporation is anti-anything based on a small lack of venue vetting is - like many things of late - a tempest in a teapot in my very humble opinion.

SusanSVS 5 pts

Megan, you do such a great job of difusing this situation and providing rational commentary about what was such a great event (no, I wasn't there) and the minor incident.

Though not a mom either, I have talked with friends who do have children to get their thoughts about situations where it's questionable whether children should attend.  9 times out of 10, we're on the same page.

As a caveat to the rest of this commnet, please note I really like and enjoy (most) children - just not all the time.

Why anyone (mother, father, aunt, nanny/babysitter) thinks its appropriate to bring a baby to an adult event (night time at a bar!), movie theater, fancy restaurant, etc is beyond my comprehension. 

I'm sure the hate daggers are already being launched but it amazes me how many times parents think it's okay to impose children and their sometimes less-than-angelic behavior on others who want to enjoy a child free evening/event. And heaven help us if you ask them to take their fussy/screaming/talking too loud/kicking my seat off-spring from said event. Sorry folks, it's a sense of entitlement, I, nor many of my friends, don't understand.

Ironically, my sister & brother-in-law chose not to bring my parent's grandchildren to their 50th Anniversary party last summer. This was a kid-appopriate party and (IMHO) selfishly, they wanted to enjoy their evening over my parents enjoying having their 2 grandchildren (13 & 10) be a part of the celebration.