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Lunch Wars: School Lunches I Have Known

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As I read Amy Kalafa's Lunch Wars, I keep having flashbacks to school lunches I have loved. Or loathed. It depended on the day, really. It seems to me like a good place to start discussions about Lunch Wars -- the school lunches we have personally known.

My elementary school was ... well, it was a bit crunchy. I didn't realize this at the time. I don't think any of us did, it was just normal. Junk food was a big no-no. Bag of chips and a soft drink in our lunch? It got yanked, you got a school lunch and your parents got a phone call. Sure there were loopholes (chocolate-covered granola bar, anyone?) but basically we all went to school with semi-healthy lunches. Almost everyone brought their lunch, because our school didn't really have a hot lunch. Monday through Thursday there was some kind of soup for sale (I remember it mostly being chicken noodle), as well as cheese and crackers. The only beverage for sale was milk from a local dairy. Friday was hot dog day and on very special occasions there was frozen yogurt from a different local dairy. For one memorable year we also had soy nuts. (I really wasn't kidding about the crunchy thing.)

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We came to school with pretty healthy lunches, though I can't say what we chose to eat out of them was always healthy. There were a lot of tradesies, though the most in-demand item for trading was the homemade bread a classmate's mother made. To this day it's the still the best bread I've ever had. She'd bring it in her lunch with nothing on it but butter, and we offered her everything we could think of to get a piece of that goodness.

I was, and still can be, a picky eater when it comes to lunch. It isn't so much that I don't like things as much as I refuse to eat the same thing over and over again, and this includes sandwiches. A sandwich is a sandwich is a sandwich, and I don't care how many ways you try to dress it up, I don't want to eat a sandwich five days a week for ten months of the year. I don't want to eat anything that many days of the year.

My poor mother. How she tried to find anything at all that I'd eat in my lunch regularly. Some days I'd eat the pudding, some days I would not. (Sugar, it seems, was not even a guarantee with me.) Sometimes I'd eat the biscuits and peanut butter and other times they came back home with me. Ditto cheese and fruit. I was, quite simply, a pain in the butt that didn't eat much of anything.

No wonder the minute I got to junior high, where there was a hot lunch, she handed me money, told me it had to last a month and let me have at it. Most other kids made the switch to the hot lunch at the same time. The junior high and high school shared a cafeteria and thus began close to six years of fries, chips and soda for lunch. Or at least that's what it was most days. We were allowed to leave school grounds at lunch, so sometimes we went to Wendy's or the local pizza joint, but we kept it pretty simple. And fast. No one wanted to spend their lunch hour (or rather 48 minutes if we want to be exact) actually eating.

My last year of high school our school cafeteria went belly-up -- no more funds, no more food. A local pizza chain took it over for the rest of the year, so instead of fries there was now pizza and fries. Ok, that's unfair. The school caf, before it died, did try to offer other things, but most of their sales were fries. By this point, we had started to smarten up a little. We also had access to cars. A group of us started to go to a local bakery for lunch. We'd get subs on freshly baked bakery rolls or (non-greasy) pizza or sandwiches. Bonus? Homemade donuts that cost about $0.30 if we needed something sweet. We were eating healthier lunches than we probably had in years.

When I look back at my school lunches, I want to kick on my own butt. There was good food available -- I simply didn't eat it. I was an idiot, and I'm hoping I'm not the only one.

Don't worry, we'll talk about school lunches kids are eating today in other Book Club discussions, but I think this is a good place to start. What were your school lunches like when you were a kid?

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Dolcetto Confections 5 pts

My mother always packed a very balanced, nutritious lunch for my sister and me. But as soon as I stepped foot in high school, it was completely “uncool” to bring a lunch from home. I cannot imagine why my stomach always hurt during field hockey practice – processed cheese and nachos are not exactly what a growing athlete needs!

Chalica 5 pts

The hormone filled cow's milk disgusts me. My daughter (or my son) does NOT need any extras in her milk.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

Chalica I find the milk thing... interesting. I'm Canadian and our milk is hormone-free. No, I don't mean organic milk. Just regular milk. (I believe it's also antibiotic free but I'd need to verify that.) Until I actually realized (a few years ago) that American milk wasn't I didn't understand why organic milk was so popular.

But there are products that are made with American milk (ie. with hormones) that can be imported to Canada.

TexasRhea 6 pts

This whole post makes me wonder if my son's high school health class talks about nutrition...Time to investigate!

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

TexasRhea That is an excellent question. I didn't have high school health class. I think we had it jr high. Maybe. I'm not sure.

thechattymommy 5 pts

I brought my lunch till jr. high, then everyone bought and from then on, I pretty much bought a bagel with cream cheese and a bag of chips.

Oh, so that is where these hips came from.

The book was an eye-opener for what they serve in school, but even more what I am feeding the kids too.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

thechattymommy It's definitely made me rethink our meals at home. Need more vegetables!

naptimeismytime 5 pts

I used to bring my lunch because our school served things that were gross. Like American chop suey, hot dogs, and the like. I remember they served cheese pizza on Fridays - and it was like cardboard with melted cheese. Gross. Gross.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

naptimeismytime Oh the cardboard pizza. I really don't know how they managed to make it really have the texture of cardboard.

crunchyvtmommy 8 pts

i remember all school lunches being nasty. They might not have been gross but I think it is something about the smell and mass produced factor that always creeped me out. My poor mother would try to pack me lunches and I would never eat them. Sigh. Then again I did have some issues with that which I inherited from her. If only it could be as simple as eating.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

crunchyvtmommy I think it's the smell of all the combines smells. It's like how if I got into a buffet it's not bad by after awhile all the smells mixing together get kind of gross for me.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

flutie.mcd I made my own square pizzas from time to time. I like the shape. ;-)

caitlin.m.burch 6 pts

PB & J sandwich, an apple, baby carrots and an three Oreo cookies. Still eat it everyday! I suppose you could say I'm a creature of habit, ha ha.

TexasRhea 6 pts

haha I like the combination! caitlin.m.burch

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

caitlin.m.burch I didn't eat Oreos at all in junior/high school. I had over indulged at one point. I think I was out of college before i really started eating them again.

AlishaF 6 pts

I don't remember much of what was offered at my own school cafeterias growing up, but I do remember my high school lunches. Those lunches consisted of fried foods, pizzas, hamburgers, French fries, boxed vegetables and other sides, but I also do remember there always being a salad bar with fresh salads, fresh fruits and fresh (not frozen) vegetables. Those salads were actually really good.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

AlishaF Those salads sound good!

laurelfain 5 pts

In first grade, I ate Vienna sausages every day for lunch (yes, the kind that come in a little jar). At the time, my parents were always worried about me being underweight, so I guess they figured that if I ate it, it was good enough. Now, the mere thought gives me the willies.

In high school, one of our favorite days was when they served the slim tortillas that were friend and filled with beef. I would slather mine in salsa and sour cream. I know we had a special name for them because news that they were being served would spread through campus like wildfire, but it is completely escaping me now.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

laurelfain I think that's where my mother was too -- I also tended to be underweight. If I ate anything she was happy.

maggie_kg 5 pts

My mom always packed our lunch for us, it was usually a sandwich, chips and a juice box. I'm sure it wasn't the healthiest, but it was probably better than what the kids were buying in the cafeteria. I remember being jealous of the pizza, french fries, and tater tots that the other kids were eating!

By junior high I was given lunch money which meant french fries or chips and a soda, every day. Definitely not healthy.

And in high school we had an open campus, which meant four years of fast food lunches. Every day was Del Taco, Taco Bell, or In-N-Out. It took a long time to break that fast food habit.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

maggie_kg Your junior high lunch was my junior high lunch!

I broke the fast food habit pretty quickly in college. My meal plan was only good for the dorm cafs and I couldn't afford to eat anywhere but the dorm cafs. When I moved out of the dorm I usually lived close to campus and could dart home to grab some food because again, I couldn't afford to eat anywhere else. I remember Burger King had a "two can dine for $4.99" coupons in the school paper and my friend and I used to treat ourselves to it and a movie at the dollar cinema from time to time. Big spenders! ;-)

kateri27 8 pts

We actually went home every day for lunch from kindergarten through eight grade. I went to a small private school and we didn't even have a cafeteria until about sixth grade. We did have "pizza day" and "hot dog day" maybe twice a year, but I don't think I even participated in that. High school I brought my lunch and I remember eating apples and rice cakes with peanut butter almost every day. Ahh memories. I really need to investigate the school my children will be going to...

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

kateri27 Rice cakes with peanut butter. I remember eating those as a snack from time to time. I haven't had that in years though.

KatieCanavan 7 pts

In high school, I split my time pretty equally between packing lunch and buying school lunch. There were some school lunches I loooved - turkey & gravy, chickenwich - but the real treat were the cookies the lunch staff minimally heated before serving. They were $1, and about 4" square, and clearly not made from scratch. I remember vying to get the most un-cooked one, how gross is that?

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

KatieCanavan Who doesn't like a good squishy, warm cookie?

I have to say, as I read all of these comments I am getting some serious junk food craving. And then I flip back to wanting to eat something really green. I am getting food craving whiplash.

erinbrowne 8 pts

I totally blame being an overweight unhealthy child and teen on not being properly educated about food. My parents stocked our home pantries with junk, and our cafeteria served the usual frozen plasticized pizza squares, chocolate chip cookies, and sugary juices. Now that I am an adult and have learned proper nutrition (and shed the extra pounds), I'm facing some resentment over the fact that I was ridiculed by my parents for being overweight in school, when in actuality, I was just eating what I had been given, and following the examples my parents set in our home.. which was bad habits, processed junk food for snacks, and unhealthy meals.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

erinbrowne I am sorry that you were ridiculed for being overweight. That's so not cool. :(

livelovenrun 5 pts

I can remember high school lunches very well. Standing in line, waiting to get my hands on a slice of pizza. The caf was pretty famous for their pizza...it must have been that Italian heritage of my new town. The big thing, though, was that right outside the cafeteria was a school "shop". That shop sold every single type of candy you could think of, and our excuse to buy? Raising money for the school. I can't tell you how many days I spent a dollar of money on a candy bar or bag of Skittles. I was honestly at my heaviest in high school, and because they gave us a "freedom" our parents didn't necessarily give us (the freedom to choose), we took advantage. Most of us suffered from acne. A lot of us gained weight, unless we were part of sports. I'm praying that I'll be able to explain to my kids why choosing to eat this way is not the way to go. I have more education on nutrition than my mother and father ever did...I'm praying that gives me an advantage.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

livelovenrun We'd go to a local pizza place for lunch sometimes and I know our school served pizza but I think it probably fell under the "bad cafeteria umbrella" pizza.

I wonder how much money a kid, on average, spends on candy supporting the school and how much of it is actually profit...

felicepd 5 pts

I was an idiot, too. I would take the money my parents gave me and buy a big chocolate chip cookies and a bag of Doritos for lunch. Sometimes I would buy fries or a danish. Bad, bad eating!

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

felicepd Lots of Doritos in my day. Usually paired with a chocolate bar rather than a cookie though.

sjcarroll 5 pts

We had chicken fried steak, snack bars (kids bought donut sticks and cheetos for lunch!), salad bars, lots of cokes and candy I remember

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

sjcarroll I have never had chicken fried steak. I feel rather deprived.

Submommy 9 pts

We had a wonderful "lunch lady" named Vi. There was still scratch cooking done on-site at that time in history (late 70's) and Vi's specialty was cinnamon rolls. (Yes, we got treats sometimes!)

Everyone always knew when it was cinnamon roll day, because we would come to school and the halls were filled with the smell of baking cinnamon rolls. Vi could cook just about anything for the main dish that day, and she would sell it out because of her cinnamon rolls.

roses2me 6 pts

Submommy Wow...In the 70's (high school for me) I was just excited to see packaged 'honey buns'. Can't imagine fresh cinnamon rolls :)

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

Submommy Fresh cinnamon rolls! I am jealous.

roses2me 6 pts

While reading the book I had numerous flash backs of those lovely green divided trays with space for each food group. What funny memories come back. We didn't have many choices while I was growing up. You took what you were served and it was usually a meat product, a veggie like green beans, peas and carrots or corn. Then you had rice or potato as well as some dessert such as a square of cake or jell-o with a dollop of hard cream on top.

Oh, school lunches! I'm certainly glad I don't have to eat them today:)

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

roses2me Me too! I'm glad I don't have to pack one for myself either.

Bekah Lee 5 pts

My sister and I almost always packed our lunches for school becuase our school received minimal subsidies for lunches and it was just too darn expensive. However! The food in the lunch room might not have been the healthiest (fried bologna boats, I'm looking at you) but they were all made from scratch in our school kitchen. That would not have been the norm in California where I live now, but in rural Kansas where I grew up, it was standard.

We did have a snack bar that served as a fundraiser for the business club and they brought in fresh donut holes every morning to sell alongside all of the chips and candy bars. I was a frequent patron...

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

Bekah Lee What, exactly, is a fried bologna boat? I have a hunch that I know but I'm not sure.

One Frugal Girl 6 pts

My dad packed my lunch throughout my grade school to high school years. I rarely bought anything from the cafeteria, but when I did I made sure it was something greasy and not good for me. Pizza, french fries, or tater tots!

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

One Frugal Girl giggle @ making sure it was bad for you.

Emily@SAHM.i.AM 9 pts

I remember all the horrible options we had. Greasy pizza, chicken patty on a bun with no lettuce or tomato (They didn't even have them if you wanted them), french fries, cup of noodle. I went through a few months in 8th grade where I ate a cup of noodle and a chocolate granola bar. I gained weight really quickly and stopped and became obsessive about my weight. I remember the kids who ate only french fries and soda for lunch every day. I remember the girl who had a strawberry milk shake for lunch every day (we had an espresso stand in our high school run by students in the business class). I remember the kids who had cup of noodle five days a week for four years. Luckily my habit didn't last that long. But it's influence on my weight and body image has lasted.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

Emily@SAHM.i.AM Wait. Hold up. An espresso stand? I don't even think we knew what espresso WAS in high school.

EmSun 10 pts

I had really gross food in school. Greasy pizza (grease would actually run down your hand and arm and drip off your elbow) with processed cheese and a tiny layer of sugar-laden tomato sauce, mystery meats, highly processed chicken nuggets, etc. Yuck.

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

EmSun Ok, I don't mind a greasy pizza from time to time but so much that it runs to your elbow? Yuck.

Shannon LC Cate 13 pts

I mostly got packed lunches as a kid. I remember throwing a lot away because I found sandwiches boring too. But my parents weren't into asking me what I wanted.

When I was in high school, we had a food service offering instant stuff and a couple of microwaves, but no real kitchen. I still brought lunch and still threw a lot of it away, but then put money in the vending machine for junk.

My best memory of school lunch has nothing to do with food. I was once sarcastically telling my parents I knew they didn't really love me because in grade school, some other kids got little love notes in their lunch boxes from their moms. My parents never did that. Every day of high school for the next however many years, my father wrote a lengthy (and usually weightily intellectual or ironically humorous) essay on my brown bag and put the boring sandwich inside. My friends all used to gather around to see what crazy thing my father had written every day.

Now I put notes in my kids' lunches sometimes.

Submommy 9 pts

Shannon LC Cate That's awesome. :)

sassymonkey 164 pts moderator

Shannon LC Cate I did sometimes wonder if more people would have brought lunches to reheat if there had been more than 1 microwave in the cafeteria (there were about 600 students in my school I think).

Did you save any of the notes your father wrote?