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Many of the conflicts that arose after Joe's death in Seré Prince Halverson's The Underside of Joy were due to the things that people kept hidden. There were things of which people did not speak and yet their presence was felt. These hidden things shaped their lives.

Joe's family did not speak of his grandfathers' internment during WWII. They did not speak of how his grandfather was forced to leave his house without his shoes. They did not speak of how both grandfathers came back from internment and were never quite the same. They did not discuss the name and contents of the family store changed or how English became the language they spoke at home, not Italian.

Ella did not speak of how her father died and guilt she carried about his heart attack. Joe didn't say how much he didn't want to run the family store and David did not discuss how much he wished to run it. Paige didn't talk about her mother and how she feared she was turning into her. Joe didnt tell anyone that Paige wanted contact with the children or why she left.

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All these things were left unsaid by the characters in the book. I think we often fear to speak of the unhappy things, because to do so makes them too real. We put them in a box at the back of our lives and keep them secret and hidden. But by keeping all of these things unspoken the characters in this book gave those secrets power -- the power to negatively impact their lives. It was only after they acknowledged and faced it that they were able to move forward.

Is something holding you back? What can you do to move forward?

BlogHer Book Club Host Karen Ballum also blogs at Sassymonkey and Sassymonkey Reads.

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AMagicMommy 5 pts

We don't really have any family secrets. We blab way to much to each other to hold anything back.

Carmen S 12 pts

I'm not sure if we have a big family secret - mostly we just yell about everything and so I don't think we have a chance to have secrets, lol.

moveovermaryp 6 pts

I grew up with a huge family secret locked down so tight none of my generation had a clue about it, but in our twenties, our parents explained everything, and their reasons, and I think for the most part, the candid approach when we were old enough to understand strengthened our family bonds, even though we don't really speak of those things now.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

moveovermaryp You know, I think that's what bugged me about Joe's family. Even when it came time to speak about it they still tried really hard to skirt around the topic. Yet they expected Ella to understand. I both understood why they didn't want to talk about it but got frustrated with them at the same time.

dancingnancy1 7 pts

it's a fine line dividing things to keep hidden and things to share, and it's interesting to see how all of these secrets shaped the happenings of this book. had a few been told, the outcome of the story would have been much different. but sharing secrets doesn't always result in happy endings.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

dancingnancy1 Right! It's not all openness (I mean we all have a friend who is a little to generous with personal information and opinions) but not sharing anything generally doesn't work either. And sharing *can* have bad consequences... just often not in books.

BigMama247 5 pts

I'm kind of an open book. If I'm holding back anything, it's generally just how deeply I feel about people because I'm afraid that it might just be too much for them to take in. I worry that I'm a bit too clingy, and I don't want to make someone uncomfortable with just how much I care about them. So that's probably where I hold back the most.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

BigMama247 "If I'm holding back anything, it's generally just how deeply I feel about people because I'm afraid that it might just be too much for them to take in." I find that fascinating because I'm kind of the opposite. It's why I cook for people. It's easier to say it with food.

isaselby 12 pts

I agree with GwenMathews secrets make for great fiction, however I don't want them in my daily life. They can lead to a lot of hurt and pain and what for?

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

isaselbyGwenMathews I am trying really hard to think of a novel I've read recently that doesn't have a secret in it and I'm having a really hard time. I can't think of ANY.

luanns 5 pts

A few years ago, a friend asked about one of our closest friends and why I thought she always had an excuse for not going out with us when invited. The mutual friend was single, lived 800 miles away, but came back once a month to visit her mother, who lived where we did.

"Do you think she has a secret life we don't know about?" my friend asked.

I've thought about that conversation since then. I think a lot of us have secrets we keep from those we love. Sometimes, they're small, insignificant whispers, yet we sssh ourselves because we wonder what others will think. Sometimes, they're humongous secrets that could ruin lives, if truth be told.

Do I have a secret? Well, if I tell, then it won't be a secret any more. :)

It's best to be honest with yourself and others. Those secrets can spin into lies and innuendo all to quickly. Why take the risk?

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

luanns "Sometimes, they're humongous secrets that could ruin lives, if truth be told." That is both an excellent point in general and in regards to this book. I really feel like Joe's family felt like lives would be ruined if they shared their family secret but it actually ended up being more ruinous that didn't share it.

NotoriousMLE 8 pts

This theme was one of my favorites of the book. I loved how it showed how negative secrets can fester and become worse when they are kept away too long and even how they can affect you in ways you don't realize such as the way Ella learned not to investigate anything too closely. It does make you wonder about what unspoken patterns might be unconsciously guiding your actions.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

NotoriousMLE It was definitely an interesting theme in the book.

kemerselis 13 pts

I don't necessarily think that I have things hidden in my life but I think that there are several Kim's floating around. There is the home me, the work me, the blogger me, the friend me. I could go on. I keep the unhappy parts as far away from those who I think need to be shielded. I think the key to being happier is to uncomplicate things and simplify how I operate in my life!

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

kemerselis I totally get that. Online Karen is chatty (sometimes, perhaps, overly so). Karen live and in person is often quiet and realistically quite shy until she gets to know you. (Which often means people think I'm snobby but I'm NOT. Really!)

Florinda 6 pts

"I think we often fear to speak of the unhappy things, because to do so makes them too real." I think this is absolutely true--denial operates much better in silence. And it continues to be a challenge for me to speak up and break that silence, although there's really nothing major I'm keeping quiet about now. The older generations of my family were secret-keepers--I was reminded of some of them while reading this--and that's been a good incentive not to continue the practice.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

Florinda "denial operates much better in silence" so, so true.

MamaManuscripts 5 pts

Yes, there are certainly things hidden in my life. That just aren't talked about. I would get the most healing from being open about this secret but for the sake of the rest of the family I remain quiet. I have found ways to heal but other members of my that are affected seem to be unable to cope and as a result I've been forced to break ties with them.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

MamaManuscripts I'm a sorry that you had to cut ties with people but it sounds like you are really doing the best thing for *you* and that's important.

AshasAspects 5 pts

I used to struggle with holding things back because I was afraid of the consequences but, as this book demonstrates, openness will bring forth healing. Even if there is pain initially, the freedom that is felt from revealing the truth far outweighs the pain and guilt associated with keeping those secrets.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

AshasAspects In The Underside of Joy it was a certain level of openness tempered with time. Things kind of came to a head and then people had to retreat a bit. They got there though.

theprovidentwoman 6 pts

I've always said my life is an open book. I talk too much to keep anything a secret. It's a blessing and a curse. I do keep secrets others want kept that way, but when it comes to me, everyone can know my business. I don't care.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

theprovidentwoman I can be an open book about somethings and keep things very close in regards to other things. If it's important to me that someone know, they'll know.

tehamy 5 pts

There is a secret in my family. It's not huge and earth shattering, but it explains a lot about my childhood. My sister once shared the secret with me but because of various circumstances, we can't talk about it with others. Once my sister's circumstances change in the next year, then we will be able to talk about it with others and move on.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

tehamy I've been there. Once I realized one thing so many other things fell into place. It's not something discussed but the knowledge of it? Changed so much.

heather.mcconnaughy@gmail.com 8 pts

I'm pretty good about getting things out in the open. I saw a therapist for a few months and he was surprised that I talked to my Mom about something that happened when I was little a few days after we talked about it during my appointment. My Mom was a little shocked, and upset, that they hadn't done anything about it when I was little. The other person involved was much older than me and so they were believed while I was not.

It still affects my life, and probably always will, but there isn't much I can do about it.

My husband and his family know about it, my family knows about. We just accept it for what it is and move on.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

heather.mcconnaughy@gmail.com "It still affects my life, and probably always will, but there isn't much I can do about it." You've acknowledged it. You've discussed it with the people that are important to you. That's actually doing quite a lot, I think.

es.tomasello 5 pts

i think it's idealistic to expect that we won't keep secrets because i dont think anyone can be entirely honest (maybe im just a pessimist) but i have also experienced moments of complete honestly and vulnerability and they are exhilarating. i wish i could have more of those moments. in reading the underside of joy, i thought a lot about what joe might've felt in the time he was keeping things from ella... did he envy her for her carelessness? probably not but i know i would covet the ease about her life if i were her husband.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

es.tomasello Absolutely it's idealistic. We all have secrets. Its when those secrets eat at us, and at our relationships, that they become problematic.

I suspect Joe did think that Ella was getting off easy and was carefree. And she *was* but oh, how that came crashing down on her.

teritruly 5 pts

We don't hold much back in my family...even if it comes out bathed in sarcasm and humor it usually comes out. I did find it difficult in the beginning of my marriage to voice my fears and insecurities - but once I did - it was exactly as it happened in the book - we were able to move forward in a positive way.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

teritruly We are quite fond of the sarcasm around here. Though we do try to at least make it humorous. (Which sometimes bites us.)

c525600 6 pts

Get a babysitter so my husband and I can talk!!!

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

c525600 lol yay for babysitters!

HonestAndTruly 11 pts

My mom's family is king of keeping things hidden. It's almost a rite of passage, and they all do it because they feel like they're being martyrs and it's what's expected of them or it makes them a better person or... My mom's really big on denial, and the things she claims to not remember flabergast me. It drives me insane, but it also has meant that I do my best NOT to do this... though there are thins I hide that I don't want to talk about. I'm working on it though. Slowly.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

HonestAndTruly I think we all have things we don't like to talk about and that we don't like to talk about often and with certain people. Sometimes it's important to just tell someone something once. I don't think that Ella and her mother will talk about the day her father died often, or perhaps ever again, but it was really important that they had that conversation once.

suzstreats 6 pts

I'm pretty much an open book. Maybe too open even. So I don't think I hold back.

I understand though why some people will hold back family secrets or embarrassing events. But to family & spouses, I feel like these things need to be shared.

sarahspangenberg 5 pts

There USED to be things holding me back, and it took me the better part of ten years to get over them. TEN YEARS. How long is that, God. My "things" revolved around an ex-fiance who was emotionally abusive, my immature self at the time not knowing how to handle everything that was being thrown at me. I gradually let it go and fought daily so that the after-effects of the dissolved relationship wouldn't master me, but it took a long, long time and a lot of patience on my (and others') part.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

sarahspangenberg If you hadn't fought back daily it probably would have been much longer than ten years.

marocmama 5 pts

Secrets are a part of everyone's life. I've found over time that the best policy is really honesty. It's so much easier to live life when openly and not have to worry about divulging information. I do believe when we keep secrets they eat at us and do affect our lives. It was interesting to see in this book how many secrets there were and how they were all kind of intertwined.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

marocmama Hmm I wonder if the secrets intertwined because the people were intertwined?

Nylorac 7 pts

Nothing is holding me back, although I don't always speak my mind.

I do tend to let the people I love and care about, know that I love and care for them daily so that I don't have to worry "did they know" when they pass. Sounds more morbid then intended :)

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

Nylorac Heh. I knew what you meant, morbidity aside. ;-)

citywife 7 pts

All the secrets in this book frustrated me, but when you think about it, we all have these little (or big) secrets that hold us back or affect us. I think it often represents pain that we just don't want to feel or address. I like to think that I live transparently, at least in my personal life. But families as a unit often have "unspokens" that go undiscussed.

Indigo 11 pts

citywife I found the secrets in the book to be frustrating too. At times they were completely unbelievable.

sassymonkey 656 pts moderator

citywife "families as a unit often have "unspokens" that go undiscussed" - They do. I was a little surprised that the grandfathers' internment was *such* a family secret. I got it but it also shaped so much of what they did and how they lived...

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Pam Styles
Pam Styles

"You are only as sick as your secrets"...not my quote.

Elizabeth J White
Elizabeth J White

My husband's family are PhDs in secret keeping and have a deep belief in denial. Drives me nuts! He is slowly learning how this destroys relationships and beginning to change.

Tracee Sioux
Tracee Sioux

Yes and it has made me a compulsive truth teller and probably an over-sharer.