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The Brouhaha Du Jour: David Letterman Under Fire For Joke Involving Sarah Palin's Daughter

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I'm going to start this post with the following preamble: disagreement does not have to be agitating or wholly divisive, and I hope that at the end of this we're all still friends, still speaking, and that you'll still hug me at BlogHer in a few weeks. Because I'm going to venture a guess that I'm in the minority with regard to my opinion on what David Letterman said Tuesday night, and whether or not what he said was acceptable.



Basically, I think people are making a ridiculous, hyper-inflated mountain out of a molehill. And in thinking that, I kind of have to side with Letterman. [winces]

But before we get into hashing this out, let's have a look at the offending video, shall we? (From the monologue of Tuesday's "The Late Show"):



[rolls eyes] Really, America? Don't we have better things to be all up in arms about? SIGH.

To begin, I'm a mother, and I have a daughter. So do appreciate and understand that I am indeed looking through the eyes of someone for whom this joke has a special kind of significance and relevance. Which I suppose some people would presume to mean I should be especially offended by this. But I'm not. In the slightest. I mean, not even a single hair attached to the flesh wrapped around my skullcase is offended. I AM JUST THAT NOT OFFENDED.

And yes, I am a feminist, if that matters. But I am also a person in possession of what I hope is a good sense of humor, who values the art of comedy and satire to a degree that surpasses my desire for its authors to remain within rigid boundaries of Political Correctness. To my mind, the greatest, most insightful, funniest, and innovative comedians to ever walk the face of this planet have been ones who actively, consciously pressed (and sometimes outright pounded) against socially proscribed norms and boundaries of taste, decency, and propriety. Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Louis CK, David Cross, Andy Kaufman, Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock, Lewis Black, and of course Lenny Bruce (who, lest we forget, was *actually arrested* for obscenity) -- ALL of them have said things more shocking, risque, discomforting... BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION (sorry about the all caps there, I'm just a little bit frustrated over here. DEEP BREATHS.). Transgression and provocation are now and have always been part of what raises comedy to art, makes it something more than merely amusing, more than just laugh-pandering.

During an NPR interview in 2000, George Carlin said: "I like to find out where the line might be drawn and then deliberately cross it. There are an awful lot of taboos. ... I just enjoy squashing them and stepping on them and peeling them apart and trying to expose them to people." And in my opinion the best comedy, the best comedians, absolutely do just that. Letterman included.

Whether you think Letterman was pushing boundaries here with good reason or not, it remains that Bristol Palin -- whom the joke is clearly referencing, since she is the Palin daughter whose pregnancy was a hot topic during the recent election -- is 18 years old, not a minor, not a child. And if we can make fun of other celebrities for their behavior, including speculation about sexual behavior and promiscuity, why should Bristol Palin be exempt? She IS a celebrity now, after all. I'm sorry that Sarah Palin wishes it were otherwise, but once you drag your children up in front of cameras for months on end, it's kind of part of the deal and what you signed up for.
McCain and Palin in Ohio



It should also be noted that Letterman has a long-standing, long-running comedic beef against Gov Palin, making her the butt of his jokes on a very regular basis (to the degree that the sheer repetitiveness of Letterman making Palin a target on the show has itself become funny) -- it's a running gag on "The Late Show." Oh and did I mention Gov Palin herself recently called Letterman "pathetic" during a radio interview? Yeah. cough. So viewed within that bigger context, I'm sorry, the joke IS funny. Maybe this makes me a bad feminist. But honestly, I'd rather be a bad feminist with an expansive sense of humor than good one without.

For the record, here's Letterman's response

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conversationswithmoms 5 pts

I believe Letterman when he said that he intended to joke about the 18 year old daughter.  He is a comedian and makes a living making people laugh which is what he did on Wednesday.    I've been to a Comedy show where the comedian picks on the audience and says much worse.

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Susan Getgood 5 pts

This post over on Working Mom, Democrat, Patriot ( http://workingmomdemocrat.blogspot.com/2009/06/sto... )very clearly articulates my impression all along -- that the Palins made the joke about the younger daughter with their comments and continuing reaction. Before that, most people hadn't even heard about the jokes, and those that did assumed it was the older daughter. 

Almost like the Palins saw a golden opportunity to get back at Letterman for all the sniping at Gov. Palin. 

After all, they can't issue political statements about his jokes referring to Palin's style as "slutty airline attendant." 

nowickedwitch 5 pts

I do believe that we have more important things to concern ourselves with, but I have been sick of old male comediennes constantly denigrating women by using their appearance, state of mind sexuality or lack of it,  as fodder for their bread and butter since I stopped watching Bill Maher as a sophomore in college.

cooper

Mom101 5 pts

So really, I can see why she isn't a public figure and should be off limits. 

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alovelything 5 pts

Going after any politicians' kids is out of bounds in my opinion. It matters not which daughter Letterman thought he was talking about. 

I disagree with Sarah Palin on practically every issue.  However, I was also a teenage mom once upon a time -- long, long ago, so I have some empathy for what is in store for Bristol.  Then again, I can't imagine that my mom would ever thrust me into the public spotlight like Sarah did Bristol.

Anyway. Making fun of the politician is okay. Making fun of the kids NOT okay.

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Snarky Amber 5 pts

Regarding your conflict about how you'd feel "if it were [your] kid," I think Mel Brooks summed it up pretty well when he said, "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die."

Funny happens to other people. :)

Jozet at Halushki 5 pts

:-)

I'll still hold to the opinion that there are enough jokes available about Palin herself to steer clear of indefinite jokes about her daughters having sex with guys who are old enough to be their great-grandfather.

See! That was a "family pattern of having-kids-while-very-young" joke. Subtle, but...oh nevermind.

I guess I'll not tell my moosecock joke.

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sweetney 5 pts

"That anyone has any interest whatsover in the Palin daughters to the point that jokes about them are even possible is, I think, a waste of time that could be spent taking a serious interest in Jennifer Aniston or Kate and Jon or solving the problem of expensive shoes that I can't afford."

BWAHAHAAHAA!!!!

Actually on that point I agree with you. However, his target really was Gov Palin (again, he cracks jokes endlessly about her, her life, career, and indeed, her family -- this is a running gag, the humor lies in the the repetition, KWIM?), who I find completely uninteresting also, incidentally. The humor in the joke really is more in the ongoing nature of his cracks about her, not the jokes themselves (it's like if I suddenly decided Katie Couric was my nemesis and made a point of taking jabs at her on a regular basis... Katie Couric isn't very interesting, but the fact that I'd pursue and invest time in having an ongoing beef with her WOULD be the joke in and of itself).

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Jozet at Halushki 5 pts

I'll summon one up:

I think that David Letterman has turned into a tired, bitter android who is barely funny and who needs more sex with nubile young women. Possibly while he is trussed like a turkey and covered in yogurt.

But if he is going to insist on continuing to try to be funny, I think he would do better to pick on people his own size. There's plenty of material out there about more-than-legal adults; plenty of matertial for hilarious taboo, pushing-the-envelope sex jokes about, oh, say, Oprah or Adam Lambert or presidents on dates or Rush Limbaugh's tiny dick or whatever.

That anyone has any interest whatsover in the Palin daughters to the point that jokes about them are even possible is, I think, a waste of time that could be spent taking a serious interest in Jennifer Aniston or Kate and Jon or solving the problem of expensive shoes that I can't afford.

Young women and girls in the spotlight - even of their own volition - are in a precarious position a la Britney Spears, and that we make them a side-show and justify it by "but she starrrrted it" is, I think, time better spent on getting laundry done or writing blog posts wondering when Johnny Depp will star in a movie in which he seduces a 43-year-old suburban houswife from Central Pennsylvania, discovers a g-spot hidden in middle-aged female underam wobble, and thus makes throwing away my 3-lb weights the sexiest thing I've done in years.

You asked.

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Amy In Ohio 5 pts

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Indeed a mountain Sweetney. In the world today, *THIS* is what gets people's attention?  Sad

Mom101 5 pts

All you can do is clarify it. Which he did. I don't know what else there is to say.

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Jane Byers Goodwin 5 pts

Holy scheiss on a popsicle stick, I apologize to anyone who took offense at the word "skank!"  Around these parts, a skank is a woman who willingly puts out, often with someone else's husband or boyfriend, and more often than not with a grungy redneck-y dropout type, and not for love, but just for fun.   If the word has worse connotations to some of you, I'm sorry.  But I will have to maintain that according to the use of the word in my universe, it fits like a glove in this context.

I agree that the 14-year-old is a child and therefore OFF LIMITS when it comes to name-calling or, really, any kind of irreverant reference.  Her older sister, on the other hand, pretty much tattooed herself with a bulls-eye target, and should not be surprised when the world takes aim at her.  

As for Letterman himself, well, he's not exactly famous for his tact.  This is a well-known fact, and those who can't deal with his type of humor should watch something else.  I don't watch TV at all, but I do sometimes catch his monologue on YouTube, simply because he's hilarious.  Do I take what he says seriously?  Of course not.  He's a comedian, not a philosopher.  Nor is he a reporter, a teacher, a minister, or ANYONE who is responsible for my personal interpretation of anything he says.  

I had never even heard of this issue until I read it here.  And I still maintain that, since he was obviously referring to the older sister, it was hilarious.

There is such a thing as being overly sensitive, and often things are taken out of context and assumed to be hateful, when in fact they are merely taking well-known facts about a public figure and messing with our schema.

Anyway.  I'm sorry that my use of that word offended a few of you.  

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autumncircles 5 pts

Okay - I've seen the joke and Letterman "response" and I'm conflicted.

I am someone’s daughter with a few smudges agin me and I have an eight year old daughter who has done no wrong - 'nuf said.

However, I giggled at his joke and understood his response. As a writer, I see the joke is on Palin, reminding everyone of one of the biggest icebergs to her Titanic campaign. To their extreme misfortune, her daughters are merely are collateral damage.

Please, please don’t yell back at me for the word “merely” – I get it, no need to try to convince me that that no one’s daughters should be considered “merely collateral damage no matter the age.” I agree with you, as I would hunt down any double-breasted, bad toupee-wearing, teeny-weeny framed four eyes host of a late night talk show until my last dying breath if he ever even considered poking fun at my little girl - hence my inner conflict. What does it say about me that I laughed? How could I possibly allow a chuckle escape me regarding one’s misfortunate choice in life and the other’s misfortunate place in relation to it? Who am I to try and raise a daughter with this type of clearly twisted sense of humor?

Again, please, these are merely rhetorical questions – no need to go on and tell me who you think I am. I know the answer to that dilemma.

I am human. Dave is human. As are his writers, Mrs. Palin and her daughters. Human beings are created with minds that take little breaks now and again which some call offensive, some call mistakes and some call humor.

Another reason why we are all called human.

As such, IMHO, we all need to take a deep, cleansing breath in and say “If only they’d have counted those votes right in Florida, none of this would have ever happened!”

p.s. the final statement was not intended to bring about politics into the debate, only humor.

p.p.s. see how unfunny it is when you have to clarify everything? Like, the late-night talk show hosts depicted in this comment should in no way be construed into resembling any current living/working late-night talk show hosts.

p.p.p.s. this would still NOT be funny if it were my kid.

p.p.p.p.s. I could go on like this forever, making and then breaking my own point, but, as a human, I’m now tired and must sleep. More soapboxes to climb tomorrow, I’m sure.

Peace.

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autumncircles 5 pts

Now that joke went too far.

As for Dave, he's just doing what comedians do.

BTW - wonder what his Neilsons are up to these days?

Peace...

maquignon 5 pts

You are way off base by stating that the remark (it was not a joke) clearly referenced the older girl.  He was clearly referencing the younger girl since she was the one at the ball game.  Everyone who had been watching the news that day knew that it was the younger, fourteen year old at the ball game.  If David didn't know, he should have.  If anyone is going to make a remark of that sort he had better be sure of what he is saying.  I don't know why people are trying to make this a political issue.  It is not!  It is a matter of decency and I don't think any "joke" about pedophilia is appropriate.  It would have been just as inappropriate if it had been about a democrat or someone not at all political.  This is not even about the Palins.  It's about what is proper to say on national TV.  If David had any backbone at all he would have said.  I'm sorry. I screwed up I thought it was the older girl at the ball game. I was way out of line and I apologize.  Instead he made more jokes and it is inexcuseable.  Whether it is funny or not is beside the point (I don't think it was.  I can think of lots of jokes that are funny but have no place on television.  I heartily disagree with you about the funniest comedians.  Those you mentioned depended on vulgarity for their humor.  That is not innovative.  The funniest comedians did not rely on vulgarity for their humor.  They were risque but not vulgar.  I suggest you try to put yourself in the place of the fourteen year old girl.  It is about her, not her mother.

sweetney 5 pts

Ah, I see. I thought Debi was saying someone was being mean *to HER*. Anyway, in my view 'skank' doesn't have much more bite to it than calling a man a 'douche'... but then that's me. I clearly don't offend very easily :)

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Adriennevh 5 pts

As someone whose life motto is "I was dumb enough to get pregnant, but I wasn't stupid enough to marry him", I truly take offense at calling Bristol Palin a "skank". 

Letterman is a comedian making a joke on his television show.  You are just being mean and judgemental.

ShoreBookworm 5 pts

Good point.  I am always abashed to admit one of the funniest lines I ever heard was from Mort Sahl in the late 60's when 'Women's Lib' was a huge divisive issue: "A woman's place is in the oven".

lol  I still think it is funny.

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Adriennevh 5 pts

Governor Palin bringing her kids into the "limelight" does not make them public fodder.  Bristol Palin being of legal age (18), being a spokesperson for the Republican party, (on the issue of abstinence) and being on the COVER of People magazine made HERSELF public fodder.

I am with Sweetney on this, and even blogged about it the same time she brought it up on Twitter.

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moonfever0 5 pts

I personally think that the joke was indeed aimed at 14yo Willow JUST BECAUSE she is Bristol's sister. He mentions "a Palin daughter" in the joke, meaning that they're all the same. The "apology" was back-pedaling in my eyes.

And I thought it was hysterical. Completely crass and inconsiderate but hysterical. Of course I wouldn't agree if this were my daughter, but then again, I wouldn't parade my teenage daughter's pregnancy through the media frenzy. If you choose to be in the limelight, sometimes nasty things happen.

And I totally agree about comedians pushing the envelope of political correctness. If all comedians were PC, NOTHING would be funny.

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ShoreBookworm 5 pts

While I get the point, I think the use of the word "skank" is unfortunately very pejorative and demeaning.

This could be a regional perception.  In different areas of the country, words have different connotations.  What is an outrageous slur in one area could be met with a yawn elsewhere.

In the area I live in, "skank" does have a very ugly meaning.

ShoreBookworm 5 pts

lol lol  

Now that's funny!

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lorenglish 5 pts

If there is anything wrong about this series of jokes (and I don't think there is) it is that the writers did not do due diligence in their research. Make sure the person you are joking about was where you say they were or you kind of fall flat on your face. 

Unless you are going to stand up for every person who the comedians joke about you should just drop this. What about Phil Spectre and his obvious lunacy, or the drunk driving of Lindsay Lohan? These people are joked about  all the time. They are in the public eye and make their money from the public whether in music, film, politics, magazines. 

Time for the Palins to put on their Big Girl panties and deal with it. Oh dear. I talked about their panties, will I be getting a letter from them too? 

Kristy Sammis 5 pts

The "don't bring the children into it" argument flies out the window the second the child is legally an adult AND freely touring the media circuit of her own volition.

Bristol is her own celebrity now. She has chosen to be VERY public about her baby and her abstinence-only beliefs, and just like any public figure -- especially FEMALE -- with a point of view, she's ripe fodder for comedians.

Leave underage kids of public figures out of it? Yes, please. But that's not even remotely at issue here.

sweetney 5 pts

Thanks for that tip, lady!

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aaustin13 6 pts

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Click the link that follows, then uncheck the appropriate box.  

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sweetney 5 pts

I'm not sure what you mean by it getting "mean" -- people are disagreeing with you, but no one is calling names or attacking you. Disagreement is something that should be expected in a situation like this. Certainly if anyone was name-calling or getting mean that's not something we'd stand for, whatever our opinion of the topic at hand.

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debi9kids 5 pts

All I am trying to say is that I find it horrible to involve the children.

Obviously, it won't matter.

Bristol is now considered a "skank" for having a baby out of wedlock?

Well, i'll tell you what, I had sex with my husband before I got married and I will throw no stones at any woman that has sex out of wedlock, even if she does get pregnant (apparently she is old enough to be ripped apart in the media, but not old enough to have sex or a baby without being a "skank"?) that is horrible.

I don't know how to get this to stop sending me your comments, but I will not reply any more.

I thought this was supposed to be a civilized conversation and I am sad to see where this is going.

I do agree, this should've been a teeny tiny blurb on the news and that's that. It's an issue because the media is making it an issue. I am not losing sleep over it, nor would it make me watch or not watch Letterman. I just decided to get involved on this conversation because I thought it would be fun to debate, but I don't like to debate when it gets mean.

Jane Byers Goodwin 5 pts

Perhaps it now my turn to be thought insensitive, but I thought the joke was hilarious.  I mean, when you're in the public eye and your daughter is a bit of a skank, what does she expect?  Yes, it's a free country, but those who carry a banner need to be more careful about their actions.  Or, at least wait until they're out of high school before they start their skanking.  No, I think she had it coming, and I thought Letterman let her have it perfectly.  

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Susan Getgood 5 pts

When exactly did we start expecting a guy who has a feature on his show called Stupid Human Tricks to be overly sensitive in his humor?

Seriously.

Letterman pushes the envelope of good taste all the time.That's why people watch him. 

As for which daughter, let's be realistic there too. Most Americans watching assumed he was referring to Bristol, the teen mama, who is a) a public figure and b) an adult. The Palins made it about their younger daughter with their comments. 

And the make-up joke? TOTALLY FUNNY. 

sweetney 5 pts

Again, watch the 2nd video.

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Mom101 5 pts

"Raped on a baseball field?"

Is that really the kind of humor you expect from the top comedy writers in the country?

If you dissect the joke for a sec (painful as that is as an exercise), the joke only works because it's about a promiscuous young woman hooking up with a lothario, consensually. Willow doesn't fit that description. The mistake is that they made a Bristol joke when Bristol wasn't actualy with her family on the trip.

As a mother I appreciate the "leave the kids out of it" argument, but once you're a consenting 18 year old adult doing the People Magazine and Access Hollywood media circuit of your own accord, you are as fair game for the comedians as Octomom and Lindsay Lohan. 

And since you bring politics into it, I'd like to know where all the outraged Republicans were when Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly were skewering Jamie Lynn Spears for her own underage pregnancy ( http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317577,00.html ). 

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kchaux 5 pts

Maybe I'm jaded, but I don't understand why this is even an issue.  He was obviously referring to Bristol Palin, who is a) an adult, and b) a public figure.  Public figures who don't want their family's privacy invaded should keep their family lives private.  I have seen Bristol Palin in the press more since her mother lost in the election than during the entire campaign.  I don't think you can have it both ways.

sweetney 5 pts

He's made a ton of jokes about Bristol regarding the pregnancy. If you were a Letterman viewer at all, it was very clear he was talking about Bristol. Watch the 2nd video above.

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debi9kids 5 pts

The daughter on the NYC trip was Willow Palin and she is 14.

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JenB 5 pts

I am Canadian and could not vote.  For me it has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican.  Just wanted to add that.  I do believe that Palin used her children in her poliltcal campaign.  She didn't leave them out of THAT.

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debi9kids 5 pts

I actually assumed that my opinion would more likely be in the minority and clearly that seems to be the case at this point.

My husband and I watched few different news shows and watched the coverage and it's amazing to me the lax view that is being taken. whether or not Letterman meant Bristol or not is neither here nor there, although the daughter that was with the palins on this trip WAS NOT Bristol, it was instead their 14 year old daugher. (I am sure he meant Bristol, but in my opinion it still does not make it ok)

Sadly, i would bet that every person that agrees with Letterman voted for Obama and everyone that disagrees didn't. that is shameful.

This should not be politial. Instead, it should just be about decency. The children of politicians and celebrities should always be off limits, I don't care how old they are. Unless they themselves have stepped up to the camera to have some sort of career, they shouldn't be touched.

The argument that because the palins brought their kids with them into the limelight, therefore they are no longer off limits is absurd. All politicians travel with their families at some point. Would this mean it's ok for someone to say something about the Obama's daughters, perhaps that one of them was raped on a baseball field by a grown man? And then get a laugh & applause? (they are, after all, in the limelight)

Again, I get it. Letterman's writers were stupid and thought the daughter at the game was over 18, but again, would that make it ok???

I get comedy. i actually tend to have a pretty crude sense of humor most of the time, but somehow, i never find it funny when children are the brunt of the joke.

If Letterman wanted to have a go at palin, go for it, but leave her kids out of it.

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Mom101 5 pts

Dave, if you're reading? You can make a joke about Alex Rodriguez wanting to have sex with me any time. I'd be totally okay with that.

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jenboda 5 pts

I think that humor is the one form of social and political commentary that is left in this country that is not subject to political correctness. Humor is what it is and if someone cannot understand that then I'm sorry. Palin, however, has always tried to have her cake and eat it too---her political base is largely conservative, pro-life, pro traditional womanhood and yet she and her supporters get all up in arms when her role as mother gets brought up--they claim it is degradating to women. Palin is degradating to women and their freedom. Same goes with peddling her daughter's pregnancy for political aims. It is atrocious and should be brought to our attention.

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ShoreBookworm 5 pts

It's Letterman for pity sake.  It's practically in his job description to tell tasteless jokes.

The jokes were completely lame.  I think that is the bigger issue.  Poor Sarah Palin and her family have just about run their course as fodder for the comedians.  They didn't do anything overtly dumb on their trip, so Lettermean (no, that's not a typo) had to really stretch to come up with something.  I also think it is unfair to bring her daughter into it.  That girl is not asking for publicity and I think it is really low to beat the pre-marital sex thing to death.

But the Palins did give him ammunition by even responding.  Letterman had a field day with that mock 'apology'.   Their letters to him just made them sound foolish and disingenuous.  

The Palins were clearly unprepared for the very harsh and demanding world wide public eye.  And they still have not learned.  I feel sorry for them.

As far as Letterman goes, he is just getting tired anymore.  He simply isn't that funny.  The Palins wasted their outrage.   Humor can be very subjective.  But funny is funny.  And he just wasn't funny.  And he was too dull to be offensive.  If anything I am offended to think of the money he makes to entertain me and how far he fell short of the mark.

I think the whole thing should be a non-issue. 

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opalstorm 5 pts

I don't have a problem with a comedian taking shots at politicians. That just comes with the job. But... I never like it when they bring kids into it. Regardless of whether their parents are public figures, they didn't ask for the attention. I think MINOR children should be off limits. Bristol Palin isn't a minor, and has put herself out there as a separate figure from her mother. She has to expect this kind of attention.

Having said that, i think the media makes the whole situation worse by continuing to hammer away at the subject. A story like this doesn't deserve a week's worth of news coverage.

Marla A Vapid Blonde 5 pts

I think overall people lack a sense of humor. They take themselve way too seriously. I for one have gotten my self in deep water with *FRIENDS* who I thought shared a similar sense of humor as myself. And like Letterman, I won't apologize for my sense of humor. I will apologize if I have been misunderstood and in that misunderstanding your feelings have been hurt, but will not apologize for my take on the world.

I think you are right on with this post!

aaustin13 6 pts

Figured out how to comment - duh!

I agree - if you're going to drag your entire family - minors and non-minors alike - in front of the whole world in order to bolster your image, well, then you're going to have to suck it up when the rest of the world notices your daughter and her laughable tendencies ("Abstinence-only education is GREAT!  Have you met my baby?") and makes fun of her.

I think Sarah Palin's 15 minutes are over, and she needs to go back to hunting moose and keeping an eye on Russia or whatever she did before. 

I LOVE Letterman's response.  "Am I in poor taste?  Yes."  Hahhaa...

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eyefulofcanon 5 pts

Dave's inital jokes were funny.  His apology was funny.  He's a funny man.  It was a joke.  The Palins need to take a look at their kids every once in a while if they both think that Bristol is 14.  Not only is she of legal age now, but she also has a child.  Out of wedlock.  OH DEAR.

-Kirsten

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JenB 5 pts

i didn't love the A-rod joke, but i did laugh.  It was my fisrt instinct to laugh.  SHE IS NOT 14, which bothered me.  Where do we draw the line, should Dave wait until she was 21?  25?  Was it her age that pissed people off or sympathy or really that people thought it was alloffensive.  The audience laughed and I have heard jokes bomb and this didn't seem to be one of them.  I think Dave did a good job of clarifying himself and after a couple of days I would love to see everyone move on.

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