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A Bully Is As A Bully Does: Is This A Bully or a Crush Gone Bad?

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What happens when the bully is a girl and the target is a boy? What if the bully, in pursuit of her crush on a boy, is a relentless harasser -- a girl who won’t take no for an answer? She doesn’t mean to be a bully. And no one views her this way, not even the boy. No one sees her as the bully she that is, except me, the boy’s mother, of course.

Already tricky waters, bullying often defies easy answers and cookie-cutter responses. And when you add a twisted gender-romance component, the complications multiply.

Here is our story.

Girl Bullying BoyMy seventh grade son, Alfred, has garnered the attention of Sally, a girl in his class. (Their real names are neither Alfred nor Sally. They have been changed to protect the innocent. Though, in this story, everyone is innocent and not so innocent at the same time.)

At first, Sally just looked like a girl with a crush. But Alfred did not know nor was he interested in dating Sally. (Yes, these children are 12). Sally was initially aggressive with her attention, but her actions were primarily the makings of a crush -- talking to and texting mutual friends about Alfred, and interjecting herself into his classroom conversations. But once Alfred expressed that he did not share her affections, Sally soon became mean, publicly critical and relentless with her attention. Alfred is very social and quite outspoken. He says he tried to ignore Sally. He says he tried to make light of Sally’s comments. Eventually, Alfred repeated more forcefully his lack of interest, and he did so in ways that hurt her feelings (as in, saying “I don’t even know you. Leave me alone!” in a fully populated classroom). But Sally kept coming. And then she began to get physical: pushing Alfred, throwing objects at him, sitting on him in phys ed. It was time for Alfred to get help.

He came home and shared his troubles with his three older sisters—his counsel of women. They came to me in a panic.

“You need to help Alfred, Mom."

“We know girls like this,” my oldest daughter said. “If you don’t talk to someone at school, this is not going to end well!”

And so, obedient to the counsel, I met with the seventh grade administrator. To my dismay, the administrator confided that he did not know what to do about the situation. He’d known about Sally’s behavior. A teacher had reported it. And he said that he’d never experienced a girl who continued to pursue contact with a boy who made his disinterest so crystal clear. And then the administrator said something really scary: “I wish he’d just go out with her and have it done with!”

When I told the administrator that this was a case of bullying, he seemed surprised and noticeably uncomfortable. This characterization had not occurred to him. Alfred had no black eyes. There was no trail of threats or Internet humiliations. Alfred is a football player, after all. He can hold his own.Dan Olweus, creator of the Olweus Bullying Prevention Program, says in his book, Bullying at School: What We Know and What We Can Do:

A person is bullied when he or she is exposed, repeatedly and over time, to negative actions on the part of one or more other persons, and he or she has difficulty defending himself or herself.

According to Olweus, this definition includes three important components:

 

  1. Aggressive behavior that involves unwanted, negative actions;
  2. A pattern of behavior repeated over time and
  3. An imbalance of power or strength.

 

The reason no one thought of Sally’s behavior in the same way as they would any other kind of bully, I strongly suspect, is because she is a girl and Alfred is a boy. The kind of behavior exhibited by Sally would never be tolerated if the roles were switched. We are all programmed to see girls as victims and boys as aggressors. So if Alfred is chided enough to respond by word or action against Sally, he runs the risk of very quickly shifting from target to aggressor in the view of others. At that point, in protection of the “weaker sex,” the school’s zero-tolerance bullying policies would instead come crashing down  on him.

Both children, bully and target, are likely well aware of this gender dynamic, which makes the ongoing situation more tricky and potentially harmful to Alfred. Herein lies the imbalance of power between them, and why recognizing Sally as a

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DonnaWannaHolla 10 pts

You are so right! This is definitely a case of bulling but the Anti-bulling policies really need some work. Last year my son was in an advisory/contact class seated at a large table next to a new boy. My son is left handed and wide shouldered and the other boy was bigger as well but right handed - so there wasn't a lot of wiggle room at the table and dominate hands were at odds. While working he bumped the other boy a few times. The other boy decided he was doing it intentionally and attacked my son. He penned him against the table with his arms penned under the table while he pushed the chair in on him with his knees and was choking him with his hands. The teacher had stepped out of the room. My son did the only thing he could think of and bit him to get free so he could protect himself better. My son was suspended and it wasn't until I went down there to ask "what was he supposed to do in this situation? What was the correct move?" that they really thought about it. I also got my oldest son (3 years older) into the discussion because he understands and went to the same middle school. He told me that if anyone in the room were to try to help they would also be in trouble for bulling. Also, if you try to talk to a teacher they usually tell you to stop tattling or "causing trouble". My son had a red mark around his neck and I wanted to know what was being done about the other kid. My son was heartbroken because his dad was so upset when he found out he was in trouble for biting another kid. Men tend to be proud of their sons for defending themselves in a fight but not with their teeth. That is considered babyish. But I was looking at it from a completely different angle. This was a boy that was scared because he couldn't breath... he didn't expect the incident to happen and wasn't sure what even happened at first. The "zero tolerance" just means the adults just punish both kids and no one has to do any thinking. They don't ask the other kids what happened. It isn't fair to the children who are the victims. The kids had to apologize to each other and the other boy said where he moved from you had to be like that to protect yourself. There has to be more thought put into how to help yourself in cases like this. And, other kids need to be told how they can help. No one in the room even got up to get someone who could help. If the kids can't help they shouldn't just sit there and watch another child getting choked.

Gina Carroll 7 pts

Sheila and Emily,

Thank you for your support! Every time I think about the profoundly sexist aspect of this, it makes me mad. If a boy behaved like Sally, he would have been sent to alternative school by now or worse. But I also realize that my fairness contemplations are the luxury of being on the other side of the day-to-day drama of it! :-)

Emily@SAHM.i.AM 27 pts

The administrator's reaction of, "I wish he'd just go out with her" really scares me. Would he have said that if the gender roles were reversed? If a boy was aggressively and violently pursuing a girl? It's not an appropriate reaction in any case. Girls are also capable of being abusers and domestic violence is prevalent even in such young relationships. I'm glad your son did not give in to her demands. Strong son, strong mama! Kudos to you for handling the situation so well. I'm glad it worked out peacefully!

Sheila Cameron 6 pts

Your son is so lucky to have such a thoughtful and strong Mother. It makes me sad for "Sally" who clearly needs a little help. I truly hope someone she trusts can speak to her before this sets up a lifelong pattern of behavior. Wonderful post.

Gina Carroll 7 pts

Triplet Mom and ChristineMM,

You both point out some very important problems with school inaction. With all of the time and attention spent on bullying these days, some school administrators seem even LESS willing to use the label and invoke the rules (or laws) to protect the victim. When this happens, we are right back where we started.

And again, I think the discomfort comes from the knowledge that we are all complicit.

ChristineMM 5 pts

I am sorry your son went through this. Yes it is bullying. It seems ridiculous to me that schools with so-called zero tolerance policies like in this case, knew bullying was going on yet didn't do anything about it. Can you say FAIL?

I think it is wrong that your son had to change HIS classes. The girl will just go do this to someone else. Nothing has been learned on her part. She had no inconvenience in the situation at all.

I have friends and relatives with younger kids who have experienced school's non-action. They do not want to deal with the problem yet if the victim pushes back they do not hesitate to use the bullying policy to punish the victim. And that was in the state of Connecticut that has a law that bullying is illegal and that EVERY bullying inident is to be reported to the state. A legislator told me they get almost no reports in a year.

Triplet Mom Plus One 7 pts

Growing up my brother was a victim of constant bullying because of his disabilities and it broke my heart and I tried to help as best I could as his little sister without making the bullying worse by his little sister sticking up for him. I really appreciate you calling attention to bullying and shining a light on the fact that it doesn't always look like it is portrayed in the movies. Thank you for encouraging parents and teachers to look for it and to take whatever actions are necessary to stop the bullying.

Squashed Mom 7 pts

Triplet Mom Plus One Hey, Triplet Mom Plus One, I didn't realize you had a brother who was disabled. I didn't see a contact email anywhere on your profile, so am reaching out to you this way. I have a focus on special need siblings on my blog & wonder if you'd be interested in writing a guest post from a sister's perspective. Let me know.

Gina Carroll 7 pts

Thank you so much for sharing your stories, Honest-and-Truly and Hilary Tully!

As your stories show, what's frightening to me is that abusive behavior of all kinds is becoming the norm. And why wouldn't it? Isn't bullying just our immature kids' way of "voting each other off the island"? When we look around at our "culture of mean", we have to acknowledge the issue is HUGE and pervasive.

The good that has come from our situation is that my son and I are talking about our own behavior, and not just how to be resilient against meanness and unwanted attention, but also how not to be THAT person for another; how not to feed the abusive behavior of others; and finally, how to help others who are having trouble.

As parents, we must: model; turn off trash TV (at least talk about why it is trash); and be advocates for our (and other) children.

Hilary Tully 7 pts

My own son is the victim of bullying, from his first days at school he has been bullied, the teachers stood by and let it happen claiming it was not bullying. For example when he was 5 years old a 6 year old girl would follow him into the toilets (restrooms) and pull down his pants and touch him. I was not informed of this by the teacher although she knew about it. I had to approach the little girl myself and I gave her a letter to bring home to her parents who then contacted me .. The teacher took no part in it at all. My son is now 13 years old he was diagnosed with Autism when he was 8. He has always been ''different'' in his behaviour, in his looks (he has long dreadlocks) in his religion (we are ''pagans'') he gets teased unmercifully and this is not seen as ''bullying'' either because if John teases him one day and Jane teases him the next (example names not real people) it is not seen as ''systematic''. As a society we are all at fault but the more that concerned parents like myself or yourself stand up and be counted and say that we will not tolerate this treatment of our children the better it will get. I encourage my son to tell me of all and any incidents that happen to him and I then go in and challenge, talk to, confront .. whatever action I have to take.. I dont care how it looks to them overprotective .. hysterical.. I take action even if they wont.. One day it will have an effect.. I read your article... and I wrote this comment so now you know there are other mothers out there who need to protect their sons. Whatever it is we have to protect them from.. nothing is too small if its an injustice or an inequality.

HonestAndTruly 11 pts

Amen amen amen! I have a daughter in first grade who is coming close to being bullied in my mind by a boy who has been her best friend since 3yo preschool but who hasn't developed socially and won't share her with any other friends and is mean to them to keep them from her and starting to be mean to her, too - including convincing her that she doesn't look good such that she now only wears clothes that she thinks he'll like, which interestingly I posted about this week. There is SO much more going on than the traditional hitting and such. You're right on, and shame on the school for not recognizing it more forthrightly!

bridgetstraub.com 6 pts

It's scary how illequipped teachers, counselors and schools in general are to handle these situations.

jwilliams057 10 pts

Where were this girls parents, and why were they not taking steps to correct her actions?

geezerchick 5 pts

I'm so glad you pursued this and protected your son! Thanks for telling your story.

joywilder 5 pts

Unfortunately, most people view boys as being aggressive and girls as hapless victims. This is NOT the case in every situation. Girls see aggressive behavior on TV constantly (those horrible "reality" shows) and think that this is socially acceptable.

No means No for both boys and girls.The earlier this is learned the better!

Gina Carroll 7 pts

Perhaps the unsettling part, Katie, is that the girl seems to go without correction. The intensity of the double standard really cannot be over-emphasized here. We decided to move Alfred's classes because (1) there was no acknowledgement on the administrations part that this was bullying, as would initiate their bullying protocol (whatever that is-- still unclear); (2) I wanted immediate relief for my son who was under pressure in class; and (3) I wanted to go on record as voicing my complaint, saying that we felt he was being bullied and then taking proactive steps toward a remedy for him. I could have insisted that the girl be moved to make a point, but I wanted results same-day for my son's sake. Life can be unfair...and then really unfair. Sometimes you gotta cash in your unfair before matters get any worse!

Thanks for your support, Emsxiety and Maya!

Emsxiety 10 pts

So many things wrong with this, of course it is bullying. She physically assaulted him on numerous occasions. Why was nothing done about that? Never mind the verbal as soon as she stepped it up to physical she should have been suspended at a minimum. Why did he have to change classes? She was the aggressor and the bully, if anything, she should have had to make the change. His life should not have to be disrupted because she can not handle rejection.

Double standards do not work. I always taught my son not to hit girls but I also taught my daughter not to hit boys. It goes both ways.

I'm sorry your son had to go through this but I am glad you put this out there for others to see. Girls can be bullies. Boys can be abused by girls. Just because the boy may be bigger physically does not mean he can stop a girl from hitting him, because as you said, then he gets in trouble.

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PlumDistrictMCO
PlumDistrictMCO

blogher I was that girl. Chased boys down, pinned them down and made them kiss me.

positivewrks
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MaDonnaNegra You are so welcome, Gina! Happy to help.

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Lois Wickstrom
Lois Wickstrom

I think it was bullying and I think it was handled appropriately. The classes for both children need anti-bullying education. It's the bystanders who make bullying possible.

Tracy Bacher
Tracy Bacher

I hate to be the naysayer here, but I don't know if we have enough of the story to call her a bully. She "physically attacked" him? I know the article says she began "throwing things" at him, but what? Love notes to get his attention? Or something meant to hurt him? She "pushed" him... but do we know how? Pre-marriage if someone was making me laugh I would tap or gently push them: remember that Seinfeld episode? With Elaine doing that? It was flirting. Now, if Sally was REALLY pushing him, with the intent to HURT him, that's a different story. THAT would be bullying. I don't know if this is, though.

To me, this girl just seems really annoying and sad. Lacking the ability to read social cues, possibly even suffering from a social disorder. It probably drove that boy CRAZY and made him embarrassed that some girl was so obsessed with him. It sounds horribly distracting and like a pain in the butt. It's a shame no female teacher or guidance counselor pulled the girl aside sooner and told her she was being inappropriate, not to mention kind of pathetic. After all, if a guy said he wasn't into her, there are other fish in the sea. You can't harass someone into "liking" you, and clearly this girl needed some guidance in handling a crush.

I do think this mom made the right call, though, by talking to the school since they were apparently ignoring it. I'm just not sure i'd call it "bullying", but perhaps I just don't know the whole story.

Katie Cortes
Katie Cortes

This article bugged me. That girl physically attacked him and she was not expelled? Why did he change classes and not her?

Maya Brown-Zimmerman
Maya Brown-Zimmerman

I think it was bullying, and I think she handled it really well. My only question would be why Alfred had to be the one to change classes. Did he prefer to change classes? Otherwise why not make the aggressor be the one to change?