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C-Section Remorse: "I Was Robbed of My Birth Experience"

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Throughout my pregnancy, I never considered the possibility that I would have a C-section. Who knows where I got this idea, but I just figured a C-section was what “other people had,” people with complications during pregnancy which I didn’t have. I only skimmed the chapters on C-section in my pregnancy books and we paid little to no attention to the C-section video in our prepared childbirth class.

On D-day, I reached 9 cm. in no time. My OB and nurses all commented on the remarkable rate of progress. But hours and hours passed and I could not get to full dilation. My OB felt “a section” was necessary, but in our stressed and exhausted state, everything that she said was a bit of a blur. Arrest of dilation, failure to progress, baby’s size, possible cervical swelling, etc. Since I was not keen on the idea of having a C-section, we waited a little while longer and even tried pushing, but to no avail. Finally, my OB scared the bejesus out of us by telling us that I could “bleed out” if we tried to have a vaginal delivery and we could be putting the baby at risk.

Needless to say, I had a C-section.

In the months following my son’s birth, I was riddled with guilt and filled with remorse over the C-section. I wish I had asked more questions. I wish I hadn’t let the OB pressure us into having the section. Since the baby wasn’t in distress, I felt like I should have been able to labor longer. Aren’t there plenty of birth stories in which the mothers were in labor for a ridiculously long time?

My reasons for not wanting the C-section were not superficial. It wasn’t just that I didn’t want a scar. Trust me, there are plenty of other things about my body that aren’t perfect so I wasn’t too focused on that. It was that I somehow felt robbed of the true childbirth experience. I felt that I missed out on a sort of rite of passage into motherhood by not suffering through a vaginal delivery. I wanted to prove to myself that I was strong enough to endure what many consider to be the worst pain, all for the sake of my child, but I never got that chance.

Little PiggiesI was disappointed that the first few days postpartum were not as I had planned. I couldn’t jump up when the baby cried and pick him up the way I had expected to. I couldn’t walk him to sleep. I couldn’t nurse him without help. I felt like this interfered with my ability to bond with my baby in those early days.

For weeks following CJ’s birth, I questioned whether I really needed a C-section. After speaking with my OB and reading her postoperative report, I felt even more strongly that it was unnecessary. The baby was not in any distress and my OB herself admitted that she wanted me to have the baby “before her shift ended.” I wondered whether I would have been able to have a natural delivery if we had just waited and labored longer. I speculated that perhaps my OB was motivated to do the C-section for financial reasons and/or due to her own impatience. What irks me most is that her decision did not just affect this birth but likely my next as well.

It has been four months and I think I have finally come to terms with what happened. It’s easier to accept when I think about the possibility that something could have happened to the baby if we had attempted a regular delivery. It’s been helpful to talk to others who have also experienced these same feelings of remorse. In the end, I have a healthy baby boy and that is all that matters to me. It goes without saying that he has been worth it all… But I will definitely be switching OBs.

 

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therealcie 6 pts

I guess I don't feel bad about my c-section because there really was no choice. Also, later on, I came to think of it as something of a divine intervention. I did not progress beyond 3 cm dilation but was having contractions like someone at 9 cm. Both my son's and my heart rates were slowing. Also, it turned out that I had campylobacter. This nasty food-borne illness could have quickly dehydrated and killed my baby if he'd been exposed. The c-section prevented any possible exposure that might have happened. For a while I told people that I felt like a failure because I'd had a c-section, because I thought that's what I was supposed to feel like. In reality, I felt like a freak because I didn't feel that way! While I wasn't glad for the way things went--a normal birth is always best--I was glad that it happened that way because it could have been so much worse. Hope that makes sense.

Kayla30000 5 pts

I realize this is a old thread but I have to leave a comment. This story sounds SO much like mine! I fairly quickly dialated to 9cm and then nothing for hours. The dr. said my son's shoulders were to wide to allow him to pass through my cervix and that we were both getting fevers from being in labor so long. They were going to give me a c section with me awake, but the 2nd epidural wasn't doing anything for pain and made me unbelievably nauseas I couldn't even move so they ended up putting me to sleep.

 

This was my first child and although I didn't care so much about HOW he got here, I just would have really liked to SEE him being born. I feel like I missed the most important moment of my son's life and although it doesn't you know, 'haunt' me, It does make me kinda sigh with disappointment when I think about it. I know my poor bf had his heart set on being in the room to see his little boy come into the world and cutting the cord, there is too much backstory to this to post but let's just say it would have really meant a LOT.

 

A birth experience isn't always the same for everyone. I never wanted to 'prove' anything to myself or anyone else by having him naturally nor do I feel 'robbed' by the c-section, it just would have been wonderful to hear his first little cries to the world, and not to wake up with people all around me and my baby already asleep and wrapped up : /

goldenpoppyd 7 pts

I had a c-section and mourned the birthing experience, as though it made me less of a "woman" or a "mother"  - even though it was impossible for me to give birth to an 8lb baby (@ 4'10"). It took Way more than a few months to get over that feeling and it may seem irrational to have felt that way to some people--but I only got to have the one child (my fabulous 20 yr old daughter) and for whatever reason felt it somehow reflected and cheated me out of the experience. Frankly, now, in my 40's I'm glad my "bits" are in awesome shape compared to many women who have the full "birthing experience" - trust me, we scored on this one. :-)

sharongreenthal 100 pts

Nineteen years ago,I had an emergency C-section with my son, who was breech (in a V position - butt down), but the doctor did not know it until he broke my water. I consider myself lucky to have been able to give birth to a healthy baby, and not have to labor for hours and hours and THEN have the procedure. I have to say, I felt the recovery was easier after the C-section than it was after the birth of my daughter 2 years prior, which was a conventional birth. I was much better cared for in the hospital, and was able to spend the extra days resting that I did not get with my daughter.

You may think this is a huge issue now, but as time goes on I hope you will realize that GUILT should not even be in your vocabulary at this point. And I agree with amber_z that postpartum depression may be part of your mental state.

Congratulations and enjoy every moment!

thosegraces 9 pts

Massachusetts is currently considering a ban on C-Sections due except in medically necessary conditions. Considering the decision of your doctor, I totally agree with this ban. I plan on having kids one day and would want to avoid a C-Section at all costs. Don't want to stay past your shift? Don't become a doctor. Enough said.

SunbonnetSmart.com 2638 pts

thosegraces Whoa! Strong words. Be careful. Life has a way of making you eat anti-C-section thoughts. I had to eat mine and I was glad to....lie is amazing...how it works out to humble us. Fondly, Robin

TracyRosen 8 pts

I consider everything that went into birthing my baby boy part of my birth experience, including the c-section I had.

amber_z 9 pts

Its sounds like you may have a little post-partum depression, and perhaps you are using c-section disappointment as a crutch for real issue. talk to your doctor to be sure. were you told you would'nt be able to try a vaginal delivery if you were to get pregnant again? there are many women who are told that and are still able to give birth vaginally, like me. pushing is not that magical, it hurts, you poop on strangers, it hurts somemore, then you hurt for a couple weeks afterwards too. also i thought nurses were much nicer to me after c-section, helping with the baby. i didnt get 5 minutes help after vag birth. head up, best is yet to come.

HopePerlman 14 pts

My children are 13 and nearly 9. Both were c-sections.

I can relate to your feelings about being robbed of the "real" birth experience, and I know it can be hard to listen to people saying you should be grateful that your children came out healthy.

All these years down the road, I can attest that I still sometimes feel sad that I didn't deliver vaginally. And it feels weird to know that if it weren't for medical intervention, perhaps neither I nor my daughters would be alive.

It's a mix of gratitude, amazement, and also sorrow that has stayed with me.

kikimojo 24 pts

Thanks for sharing! I definitely understand your feelings, though my story was different in how I ended up having a C-section with my second. I didn't feel robbed, but it was hard recovering, and I definitely had a lot of hard emotions about it.

What especially disturbed me is what you mentioned about feeling pressured. I really feel like the trend is up for doctors to give C-sections without reasons that are valid. There are so many valid reasons that are life-saving to mother and/or baby, but to hear your doctor say that she really wanted to leave before her shift was over--AAAH!! That just frustrates me so much! The thing that people don't always realize (because C-sections are so common) is that it's a MAJOR surgery. Sure, they do it quickly and well, but it's a huge thing. I know many women who were very unprepared by their doctors for the actuality of recovery. (I also do know many who had positive experiences, so let me point that out as well.) I think also (if the research is still accurate that I read while pregnant) that the risk of mother dying is three times as likely in a C-section. It's still a VERY low number, but generally if your doctor suggested doing something that would be three times as likely to cause your death, you would probably steer away, unless really necessary.

That's the thing: with so many C-sections being given, it's hard to tell what IS really necessary! I'm not against C-sections or anything, but I do think that often women are pressured into them, or that doctors do make a decision to perform them when it's not really about life-saving. I am against scare tactics and doctors performing them for convenience, veiling it in some reason that sounds medical. If it's your choice, or planned for a reason like breach baby or twins, etc, that's very different. I'm simply disturbed by the way it seems doctors scare women into them if labor is long or inconvenient. Yours is not the only story I've heard like this--I think 90% of women I know personally had C-sections in the past year, most for sort of vague reasons like the ones your doctor gave. I feel that there should be some accountability there!

Audrey @Mom Drop Box 14 pts

I have two kids- one delivered vaginally and another by C-section. I can relate to what you're saying about the C-section recovery hindering the bonding experience. Recovering from the C-section was so much harder for me that I felt I couldn't focus as much on my daughter. But neither method of delivery is easy or pain-free for the mother, and it sounds like you did the best you could with the information you had available at the time. Congratulations on your healthy baby!

Grace Hwang Lynch 76 pts

I can sympathize with you for not having your first childbirth go as planned. It's okay to grieve the experience, but the birth is just the beginning of your journey as a mother. I didn't have a C-section, but the birth of my first son was very complicated, and resulted in me being bedridden for several days afterwards, and then he needed to be admitted to the pediatrics ward to be in an incubator for jaundice after we initially went home. The added stress definitely had repercussions for me!

Then again, I wonder if the birth experience is being oversold to women nowadays as this "magical" experience. There was a time not that long ago (and in some countries) where a birth resulting in a healthy mother and baby are cause for celebration.

SunbonnetSmart.com 2638 pts

Grace Hwang Lynch Good point, Grace. I definitely believe the vaginal birth experience is oversold. Most people don't realize that up until the end of the 19th century or so, 25% of women giving birth died. Better hygiene,sterile procedures and healthier surroundings have changed that, as well as safer C-section procedures.

Doctors are caught because if they don't decide to do a c-section in an abundance of caution, the very people who are are unreasonably wound up in the natural "birth experience" will be the first ones to hire a lawyer for the natural "litigation experience" if the outcome for the baby or mother is injury or death.I was invested in having a natural vaginal birth to the point where my husband and I went to an Amish mid-wife. But, when things didn't go as planned, it was easy for me to forget my plans and be very thankful for a C-section at a hospital.

The reality? I couldn't be happier as, I would have been one of the 25% a hundred years or so ago. Both the baby and I would have died. If doctors order a C-section, I have changed my views that is it a casual decision so they can get out onto the golf course. I would give them the benefit of the doubt.

Being upset about having a C-section instead of a vaginal birth when both produced a healthy baby, is like being depressed you have to vacation in Bermuda when you planned on going to Hawaii.

kgecik 7 pts

Yet another uninspired "I was Robbed" birth story. Seems like once you've read one, you've read them all. Get over it and focus on your baby!

kikimojo 24 pts

kgecik I think there is room for both a healthy baby AND birth experience! Some women don't care about birth experience, or may have had such a terrible one they'd rather forget it. But I think birth, like pregnancy, is an amazingly powerful thing that affects women on every level: not just physical. So whether a woman goes into it or not WANTING an experience, it IS an experience that will impact her on all those levels, even if she doesn't choose to dwell on it.

Again--for some women, thinking about, experiencing, and even reflecting on it later is important. I think that your comment is a little too dismissive, and really verges on hurtful in your language. Maybe you could broaden your view just a bit. Maybe the reason that it seems that reading one is reading them all is because there is a real truth and a validity to many women feeling that they lost the experience of vaginal birth. If it doesn't matter to you, then perhaps steer away from posts about C-sections. The title was clear enough to alert you that you might not agree.

I think if there were something that was especially important to you, hearing someone say, "get over it" would probably rub you the wrong way. And there is NO indication at all that the writer is not focusing on her baby. Being happy about a healthy baby and wanting a certain birth experience do not need to be mutually exclusive! In a perfect world, we'd have both.

Sorry to go on, but I felt bothered by the dismissiveness of your comment!

therealcie 6 pts

 kgecik

 I think it's rather rude of you to belittle this person's experience. This is how she feels. It's her right to express that.

ItsAllRelative 71 pts

We spend over 9 months thinking about how the birth of our child will go. We make plans, talk about our priorities, what we want not only for us but for the health of our baby. Then that moment arrives and sometimes it goes quite differently than we had planned. We lose the birth we had hoped for. In your case, this decision not only affects this birth but any future births you might experience. It is perfectly normal and healthy to mourn the loss of a dream. This has nothing to do with your feelings about your baby and it is unfortunate that some people need to belittle this loss by implying that you aren't thrilled to have a healthy baby.

I hope you can find peace because what's done is done. Next time you will be more informed and more involved. Good luck.

anneisanne 26 pts

Honestly, I've never had a baby, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I'd be upset, too. Abdominal surgery is no cakewalk, and takes a lot of time and work to heal from. I say this after recovering from mine being helped out generously by my mother, and barely having the strength in the two weeks after to feed my cat. I couldn't imagine going through that and having to care for a baby, which as a future single mother by choice who has had her uterus cut on, if I'm lucky enough to conceive, I'll probably have to do.... Ew. Scaring myself. If this could have been avoided, I'd be second guessing myself and my doctor as well. There is no reason to chastise this woman for wondering if she needed a c-section; we all look back on things in our lives and replay them, looking for a "better" outcome, especially when it is such a huge event as a birth of a child. She's not wishing for a soft-focus, Lifetime Movie birth moment or unappreciative of her child's health, she's just wondering if all that rigamarole was necessary.

Kerry D 6 pts

I'm sorry that you are feeling remorse. I never have, but that's probably because I knew I'd be having sections ahead of time. In the long run, the day of the birth is just one day in your child's life. Much like a wedding day, it seems huge at the time, but it's just the beginning of the real experience. Try not to let it get you down. Enjoy your baby boy!

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TalkingThirty
TalkingThirty

Lucky_Kristin I wasn't suggesting that anyone should. Only commenting on my feelings towards my own. Best of luck w/ your 2nd section.

Lucky_Kristin
Lucky_Kristin

TalkingThirty I don't think I was talking about your comment?

TalkingThirty
TalkingThirty

Lucky_Kristin I know. Was responding to your 1/20 tweet (not today's). Enjoyed reading your post yesterday. Thx for sharing.

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Sea Spray
Sea Spray

I had a spinal for 2nd c-section and was awake to share experience with my husband and was so glad I did that. And I was also glad a patient came into where I was working before I had my 2nd son and told me she had had a spinal and panicked because she couldn't feel herself breathe. That knowledge helped me, because I was feeling anxiety when I couldn't feel myself breathe, but remembered what she said and that calmed me somewhat.

Sea Spray
Sea Spray

I felt like I failed delivery because I ended up with a c-section after being psyched to do go the La maze route, although I was not going to refuse pain med when difficult. I practiced the breathing and walked often and on the night we left, had my lemon lollipops, magazines and oh yes ..Mr SeaSpray. ;) 2 weeks prior to delivery, I had a pelvimetry because gyne doc was concerned I wasn't dropping ..but baby was cleared for vag birth. Ended up being induced because labor slowed. Labor intensified, I hadn't eaten in 42 hrs and hadn't slept even longer. When I asked for more pain med, nurse said no because I'd be going in soon. I asked her to check me and she seemed shocked I was still 6 cm and when I saw her face in conjunction with my pain level , I hyperventilated and had to breath into a bag. Downhill from there and was in OR and delivered 1st son at 10:04pm, 10lbs, 10oz, 23 " - 10 days late. I had a general and missed the whole thing. i didn't tell anyone, but felt profoundly depressed and mad at myself because I thought I failed labor ..that if I didn't panic, I would've had a vag delivery. The doc said that I was smaller than they thought and maybe could've delivered 8lbs or under. I STILL felt like I failed and shouldn't have panicked. I told my gyne doc I was sad and he said "You have a beautiful healthy baby!", which only caused me to feel guilty. It was my friend who said that sometimes with difficult births, a healthy baby can end up with cerebral palsy, etc. and THAT snapped me out of it. I was thinking of me ..and not what was best for my baby. From that moment on I had let go of it. They were not willing to do v-bac (?) 2nd time around, but I was alright with it. BOTTOM LINE - I would ALWAYS want what was truly BEST for the BABY.

Simply Raising 8
Simply Raising 8

My husband was on his way home in route on a plane from the military so that ended up being the first picture that both of us seen of the babies.

Victoria DeBerry
Victoria DeBerry

there is no un-natural way to deliver your child into this world. women make too much out of this.

Tresha Thorsen
Tresha Thorsen

total trend of late. really hoping this subsides....

Erica Jensen Hanlon
Erica Jensen Hanlon

Having a baby is a deeply personal experience. Is a healthy baby the goal? Abso-freaking-lutely. But I don't think that to infer that she doesn't appreciate her baby is supportive or helpful. Each woman is entitled to her feelings about her birth choices and how she experienced that choice. She is allowed to grieve that her experience. This article isn't about us. It's about her. She deserves our support.

Rhonda Snively Dees
Rhonda Snively Dees

I'm delighted to see so many pro-csection comments! Seems like typically I'm in the minority having chosen three scheduled operations to deliver my three children.

Ivy Shih Leung
Ivy Shih Leung

If you've longed for a natural childbirth and you labor for long hrs and all of a sudden it becomes an emergency c-section, the disappointment can be extremely overwhelming. The bigger the gap between expectation and experience, the harder to recomcile amd the greater the emotional toll. The bottom line here is that each woman's perception and experience is unique to her. A difficult, disappointing and/or traumatic childbirth experience can pave the way for postpartum depression, especially if a woman is at a higher risk for a postpartum mood disorder. Scheduling a c-section is different because you control when/how you're going to give birth.

Jenny Nicholes Tufford
Jenny Nicholes Tufford

Really, Leslie? Nice.

Tiffiny Harmer Felix
Tiffiny Harmer Felix

I find all these comments interesting. Bottom line: if it's how she feels, it's how she feels. Who are we to tell her she shouldn't feel a certain way?

Kristin Wald
Kristin Wald

I understand what this author is talking about. I had an "emergency" c-section and then a c-section when trying for a VBAC. There is a difference between believing that your c-section was necessary (or planning one) and feeling like you were pushed into major surgery for reasons other than "emergency" - even though it's called that. It's horrible of others to make the author feel like she should just be glad her baby was healthy, or just be glad she was pregnant at all. Any of us can compare our experiences to someone else and say "Well, you should just be glad" about something. It doesn't minimize honest feelings of sadness for the person going through it.

Leslie Whitney
Leslie Whitney

There's nothing in the world compared to pushing a human being out of you. As I'm sure there's nothing like getting your stomach cut open to get it taken out. (don't know, never had a c-section) Both different "birth experiences", I suppose.

Melissa Bodle Boyer
Melissa Bodle Boyer

Should say :)

Melissa Bodle Boyer
Melissa Bodle Boyer

I knew at 36 weeks that I would have to have a c-section, and I did grieve for the birth experience I imagined. For me, though, there was no question that it had to be c-section, so I can firmly say that my daughter's safe birth was absolutely more important than my dreamed-of natural childbirth experience. I think it helped me that I had about two weeks to prepare. I can see why you could feel that way. That would be very frustrating if you think the section wasn't necessary, but that baby in your arms is the most important thing. :_

Gwenn Schurgin O'Keeffe
Gwenn Schurgin O'Keeffe

Reading that post, it truly sounds like that c/section was medically indicated for both mom and baby. Hopefully over time that mom will come to realize that and put her focus back on the baby that the Ob was looking out for.

Jenny Nicholes Tufford
Jenny Nicholes Tufford

I was going to add....three of my kids are teenagers now and believe me when I say HOW you had them is the very least of your worries, ha! There are bigger fish to fry as the kids get older. You won't find yourself saying, "Gee, I wish I hadn't had a c-section when you're sitting up til 1:00 a.m. waiting for your kid to get home from a dance :)

Nikki Oblamski
Nikki Oblamski

Actually I'm not sorry ;) my VBAC was a much more awe-some experience than my csection and I DO NOT FEEL BAD ABOUT FEELING THAT WAY. I love my kids the same but I loved my second BIRTH more :)

Nikki Oblamski
Nikki Oblamski

I had a scheduled csection and a
VBAC. I blogged about it. The VBAC was an amazing experience. I'm sorry, it just was. Here ya go: http://onemomtwoboys.com/2011/11/a-tale-of-two-births/ her feelings are valid and laying a guilt trip on her about how it shouldn't matter as long as the baby is healthy is not right. Many women suffer from ppd when they feel a birth didn't go the way they hoped. There is NOTHING wrong with that.

Pam Jones
Pam Jones

i had an emergency c-sec cos i had eclampsia which brought on multiple seizures. i wasn't even awake for my c-sec. i also had a terrible doctor who never told me i had pre-eclampsia.i didn't see my son for what felt like a lot of hours, because i was out of it. i had fever and blood pressure had to be monitored. luckily, i was out of the hospital in 2.5 days, and was up and about in less than a week. i didn't get the feelings you did, but for a dr. to even admit that they wanted you to have the baby before the shift ended is just ridiculous. the doctor should have let you do it the way you wanted. i ended up having two successful vbacs 10 & 12 years later. i do get where denise is coming from though. my SIL has had 4 kids and all had to be delivered by c-sec cos she always had some complications. she actually asked if she could be in the delivery room w me for my last one, because she never got to experience vaginal birth (and never would...after my niece she ended up having to have a hysterectomy). at first i thought it was a weird request, but i understood her feelings, and so she was in the delivery room w me. she also took the pics lol

Jenny Nicholes Tufford
Jenny Nicholes Tufford

I had 3 c-sections and one vaginal birth. Guess which one almost killed me and my baby? Yep, the VBAC. Sometimes a c-section is necessary. Small pelvis, big baby, labor just stopping..whatever the reason, some of them are just plain unavoidable. Yours sounds like it could have gone the other way, and you are 100% entitled to your feelings. But please, please do not disrespect the millions of moms out there who had babies this way by saying we were robbed or didn't do it "the real way". The goal is to get baby from A to B. Doesn't matter how they get there.

Cheryl Tomaselli Baden
Cheryl Tomaselli Baden

Frankly the birth experience is over rated.

Nadja Brocus
Nadja Brocus

Wow. I can't believe how many feathers this is ruffling! I had a very similar experience and totally understand where you're coming from. You're allowed to have those feelings, absolutely.

HomeGirl
HomeGirl

Mine was very necessary after pushing for 3 hours. He crowned, but we were both under too much stress. I do feel like I missed out on the chance to ever have a vaginal birth, but I don't feel robbed. I'm actually looking forward to my next one because of how happy I was when I finally saw him. Like she said, I think for most people, after the fact, that the baby is here and healthy is all that matters.

Elizabeth J White
Elizabeth J White

For those of us who become mothers without giving birth, it is articles like this that annoy me. I know she felt her c-section was unnecessary but the method of birth does not matter. Period. Our son is adopted. I have never been pregnant. I did not give birth. I am our son's mother, just as his first mother who gave him life is his mother. No more, no less.

Yahne Marie Henry
Yahne Marie Henry

I agree Marla. I had an emergency c-section the first time and scheduled the second time. I dare anyone to tell me my experience in giving birth to my sons was any less meaningful because of it. The whole process from conception to birth is a blessing in itself. It is different if perhaps there isn't a compelling reason to have a c-section; then why go through what amounts to surgery? But you are robbing yourself if there is too much focus on the fact that you did not give birth naturally. Did that baby come out healthy and screaming their lungs out? Would the baby have felt any different in your arms? Focus on the lifetime you have to enjoy that child, not the fact that you didn't push the baby out "naturally", you still gave birth to a baby! A lot of people can't have children, focus on what is truly important.

Julie Hesketh
Julie Hesketh

Having gone through both experiences, I don't feel the least bit robbed of the "birth experience" of my last two c section babies. It was just as joyful as the first, and I may add much more pleasant for me personally than the first! I had great pregnancies and great healthy babies and that was what was so joyful for me.

Suzanne Reardon-Mulhall
Suzanne Reardon-Mulhall

She came home with a healthy baby, that to me is a successful 'birth experience'. I have family members that cannot say the same...