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Can Men Be Feminists?

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With all the controversy swirling around Ms. magazine's cover picture of Obama wearing a t-shirt reading, "This is what a feminist looks like," under his suit, the important point - that Obama told Eleanor Smeal that he is a feminist - seems to have been lost. (Instead, feminists are spazzing that the cover indicates that once again, a man is here to save the day.) I think it is awesome that Obama identifies publicly as a feminist. You can barely get women to come out in public these days as feminists, so besmirched is the image of feminism. But I digress, as the topic I want to explore is whether men can really be feminists.

Dolly at Dolly Speaks, a fantastic feminist blog written by a very wise young feminist, recently found herself challenged by a male friend, and exploring in depth whether men can be feminists or, at best, pro-feminist. Here's an excerpt:

...even if men are sincere in their efforts to end sexism, they can’t just wipe away male privilege. It exists with them regardless of whether they think they are feminists or not, and that means they will always have blind spots to certain sufferings and experiences women must face. Unless women explain this to them and they open their ears, they will not understand. It locks them in a location where they can sympathize with women, but they can’t empathize. This is why a lot of feminist women believe that men can only be pro-feminist, not purely feminist.

But... [a]s bell hooks has defined it, feminism is a struggle to end sexism and all forms of sexist oppression. While sexism primarily hurts women, patriarchy indeed hurts men in ways too (though the profit off the privilege makes many guys, IMO, blind to these consequences). That means, we need men to address male privilege, and I don’t think being profeminist is enough. You’ve got to dig deep and interact with women and educate yourself... As I think we should have learned from second wave feminism, not all women’s experiences are the same. Even though many of us share an understanding of the way sexism hurts us, can relate to one another’s pain, and often feel more comfortable sharing our stories with other women than men, that does not mean we have to have all the same experiences to be good feminists... Frankly, we talk about a lot of things in feminism that we as women feminists may or may not have experienced.

Men have to work hard at being feminists–they have to be aware they cannot dominate the discourse of the movement as they previously have in the discourse of the world; they must learn to listen to the stories of women who have been used to being silenced. They have to realize it’s not about “picking up chicks,” and it’s not about self-hatred. They have to study and learn and engage, just like we all do when it comes to addressing privilege. But, ultimately… men can be feminists. It just requires honesty, sincerity, dedication, hard work, compassion, respect, and ultimately a love and value for women as equals and human beings.

I'm going to have to agree with Dolly. Merely being a woman, I've noticed, hardly makes one a feminist. Part of the reason I turned into the hard cynic that I am today is that so many women have worked really hard against other women, either out of religious beliefs (see: Phyllis Schlafly and her insane insistence that no women should ever work outside the home even though that's exactly what she does while her husband stays home with the kids) or out of a desire for personal gain (like when women sabotage female co-workers). In fact, I noticed that a lot of the men I met or admired far better represented the goals I had as a feminist than many women I knew.

In response to the Ms. dust up, Kathleen Wilcox at Heartless Doll pointed out that:

... progressive men in general can and should be recruited and commissioned to help us all keep fighting the good fight. Saying women alone can be feminists is as preposterous and ultimately defeatist as saying that only people of color can fight racism. The fact that this needs to be explained speaks volumes about the long way baby we still have to go...

Earlier last year, Cath Elliott at The Guardian in London raised the question of whether

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Suzanne 5 pts

I love that they wore dresses to make their point. That's hilarious! My husband does not call himself a feminist, but he insists that is because he is a humanist who believes that all people are equal and we don't need anything beyond that. I don't agree with him on that, given that there's obviously a far way to go before women are treated equally (not to mention gender queer people), and I do tend to think that until we have equal footing, we have to be strong advocates for change. I don't know if that made sense or not, but I hope it does.

Suzanne Reisman ( http://www.blogher.com/member/suzanne-reisman ), Contributing Editor - Feminism & Gender ( http://blogher.org/topic/feminism-gender )
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kazari 5 pts

He had a lecturer who has been referred to as a ball-breaking femo-nazi.  I'm not sure I would go that far, but she maintained for the whole semester that men could not understand gender issues.  For the (few) men in the class, it was, well, interesting - would they be failed on the basis of their gender?  Did they have to sit through blatant man-bashing every week?  How could they best deal with this mandatory unit?

After a class about gender and fashion, the three guys in the class decided to wear dresses to the next class. 

She toned it down after that.

I'm not sure about the other two, but my husband still calls himself a feminist. 

JeanLouise 5 pts

I feel as though the politically correct response is, "Of course, men can be feminists."  In fact, until this past year, I would have argued that men  could be in the same way that whites can be wholly supportive of civil rights for blacks or straights can fully support the LGBT community.

I've concluded that tribalism tends to rule for men.  Some men are pro-women and women's rights but few seem to really understand how very brutal sexism is.

Btw, most of objections to the Ms. cover that I read related to the portrayal of Obama as a feminist.  Very few objected to the idea that men can be feminists.  On that subject, Obama recommended the removal of funding for family planning and contraceptives for low income women without any apparent battle.  Somehow, I don't think that Hillary would've surrendered that particular piece of the legislation without a prolonged battle. 

nellewrites 6 pts

A topic I'm really ready to sink my teeth into!

Can men be feminists? Yes.

That sorta gets my pov out of the way in one hell of a hurry, eh? (And I can think of someone who probably just fainted on reading this.)

A bit more on that, before I go off on whatever rant my fingers and brain conspire to create.

If a man holds views such that he thinks of himself as a feminist, dammit, nurture that guy! Get that opinion to spread, bring them on board, move them all up a rung on the staircase of enlightenment.

Encouragement is a good thing, until a time comes when the sympathetic lugs lose their way.

I'll give an example. People supportive of the lgbt community, they excoriate those who toss sin and stuff at us marriage equality critters. Along comes National Day of Silence, and well...

I get an otherwise sympathetic non-lgbt person giving me 'leave it at my classroom door, please, because mine is an inclusive and equal classroom.'

Stand back, what a brouhaha that turned out to be. Who knew? Those of us gay were in fact tossing out similar arguments put forth about men and feminism.

I stand by my opinion, that if a student shuts their mouth for one day, and they wish to shut their mouth in an lgbt friendly classroom, don't dis the kid, or you aren't as friendly as you claim to be.

OK, I've digressed. Feminism, back to topic.

Men are in a place in life (generalising big time here) where the experiences are not there. Well, I transitioned across gender lines at age 48... raises hands on not having those experiences as well, though there are some significant differences, and even added issues.

As you may remember, I voted for Hillary in the NH primary, a damn tough vote, as I was torn between her and Obama. Obama is sympathetic, and surely a better choice for feminists than McCain... but does he grasp issues the way we do? Does he assign them the same importance that we do? I don't think so... but what does that mean?

It means it is a harder selling job on some things, especially in times of national crisis. How I would love to convince him of the efficacy of paid parental leave for 13 weeks, each new parent. Of one of my major dreams, codifying the ERA into the Constitution. How about picking a woman as veep (shoot, too late for that one.)

And for me, that last one says much. I know it doesn't to many here, but it did to me then, and does to me now.

I like Obama as president. I love Obama as president... but he had an opportunity to make a choice that would have been a mile north of incredible last summer, and he... for no real politically savvy reason, passed on the chance.

He will surely sign measures into law that help us, and I will even call him a feminist, as I will any man who expresses outlook and support for a general framework of pro-gender equality policy. I will take their support gratefully, and try to educate where there might be issues.

Many men I chat with on the issue go nuts when you mention patriarchy and harmful in the same sentence. They take it personally, when they should not. No matter what I say to attempt to placate this, they equate patriarchy with manhood, and just cannot see how patriarchy harms men as well.

Be kind to your local male feminists, for if they have the courage to say that, we are off to a great start, and can take things forward from there, instead of pointing out why they aren't where they say they are.   

nelle ( http://refractivethoughts.org/ )

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Suzanne 5 pts

We don't live in the world alone (whether that is good or not is another discussion), so I'm with you ladies in welcoming allies with open arms.

Suzanne Reisman ( http://www.blogher.com/member/suzanne-reisman ), Contributing Editor - Feminism & Gender ( http://blogher.org/topic/feminism-gender )
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silvergirl28 5 pts

Feminism to me is inclusive and becomes more powerful when it is shared.   

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Comm123 5 pts

I think it's great that Obama outwardly identifies as a feminist. In fact, i think it's great for any person to identify as one; i know i do. 

I don't think Obama or any other male feminist is trying to heroically swoop in and save women.

Being a feminist isn't some exclusive club reserved for only women; we need to accept and band together with anyone willing. We are all fighting for esentially the same things, the more people the better.

Jessica

Crittenton Women's Union

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