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The Case Against Settling

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The dream, like that of our mothers and their mothers from time immemorial, was to fall in love, get married, and live happily ever after. Of course, we'd be loath to admit it in this day and age, but ask any soul-baring 40-year-old single heterosexual woman what she most longs for in life, and she probably won’t tell you it's a better career or a smaller waistline or a bigger apartment. Most likely, she’ll say that what she really wants is a husband (and, by extension, a child).

That quote comes from Lori Gottlieb's 2008 essay for the Atlantic, Marry Him!, which has now been expanded into the book, Marry Him: The Case for Settling for Mr. Good Enough

Gottlieb had plenty of suitors in her 20s and early 30s but rejected them all because they did not meet her notion of a great love. Waiting for the right man, in her case, resulted in becoming a successful career woman. Now in her 40s, she is a single mother to a child she conceived via sperm donor.

The couples my friend and I saw at the park that summer were enviable but not because they seemed so in love -- they were enviable because the husbands played with the kids for 20 minutes so their wives could eat lunch. In practice, my married friends with kids don't spend that much time with their husbands anyway (between work and child care), and in many cases, their biggest complaint seems to be that they never see each other. So if you rarely see your husband—but he's a decent guy who takes out the trash and sets up the baby gear, and he provides a second income that allows you to spend time with your child instead of working 60 hours a week to support a family on your own—how much does it matter whether the guy you marry is The One?

It's not that I've become jaded to the point that I don't believe in, or even crave, romantic connection. It's that my understanding of it has changed. In my formative years, romance was John Cusack and Ione Skye in Say Anything. But when I think about marriage nowadays, my role models are the television characters Will and Grace, who, though Will was gay and his relationship with Grace was platonic, were one of the most romantic couples I can think of. What I long for in a marriage is that sense of having a partner in crime. Someone who knows your day-to-day trivia. Someone who both calls you on your bullshit and puts up with your quirks. So what if Will and Grace weren’t having sex with each other? How many long-married couples are having much sex anyway?

I was married once upon a time. My ex-husband wasn't my "type" and I knew it: My type were men who were as much in their heads as I was. Pensive intellectuals, abstract creatives, battling wordsmiths –- if they spent as much (or more) time thinking as they did anything else, I was there.

As a result, I was in a lot of relationships that happened entirely in my head -– and the heads of the men I dated. We were not people, but concepts. Everything worked famously in theory, but theory and life are different things.

Then I met my ex-husband, who is only in his head long enough to figure out how to make something work. He is everything I'm not: outgoing, uncomplicated, warm but not overly emotional, a man who never spends more time than required in his head, and who certainly never considers anything that holds no practical value to him.

One time we were driving across the country –- Texas, to be specific –- and there were a lot of billboards about God and burning in hell, and I asked him whether he believed in an afterlife. He didn't say he didn't know the way an agnostic –- or someone who questions this –- might. He said he didn't know and then, after a brief pause, noted, "I've never really thought about it."

I remember asking him to think about it a little bit and he responded with some consternation, "Why?"

That's my ex-husband. If it doesn't have a purpose, why think about it?

Gottlieb is right about one thing: You don't need to be with someone who shares interests to run a household. Running a household and all the tasks that are involved in this require only a proper division of tasks and

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HazelKLarkin 5 pts

I loved your post and the way you describe your parents. You were lucky to have such wonderful parents and role models. They are lucky that you are aware of, and acknowledge how lucky you are! :)

Dearest Fatty 5 pts

I could have married three times before I finaly settled down with Mr (Not) Fatty. Each one would have been considered "a good match" but deep down I knew they were wrong. Even in my tender years (early 20's) I knew I didn't want another "dad" and even though there is a big age gap between me and Mr (Not) Fatty there was everything else.

Sure we have to do the boring household stuff, but we also get to take the kids sleding (or rather grab a kid or two each and take over their sleges to race downhill), we constantly make up stories about our neighbours (why IS she so sour faced? Is she secretly a dominatrix and hiding behind an alpha mum mask?)

We share the same sense of humor (that is mean and black) and can match each other for sarcasm but still have enough opposing opinions to spark after dinner "debates" .

Its not roses, no relationship can be like that all the time, but I didn't settle and THATS the point.   

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Bill Cammack 5 pts

Excellent and relevant points, Trenia.

"Path of least resistance" is the order of the day.  If one gal isn't into something, another one is.  There's no reason to "work anything out".

You're right about timing as well.  In a society where there are enough women to go around that will do whatever immediately, the rest of y'all have zero leverage to say "If you commit to me, you can have XYZ".  It really becomes an issue of just waiting you out until you decide to get down with the program and compete with the other women for his attention.

That's why settling normally isn't the way to go.  You're getting "A man that will settle" as opposed to "The man that you want".

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TreniaP 5 pts

I firmly believe in a woman's ability to do whatever she wants, when she wants and how she wants and with who she wants, but I think one of the side effects of this way of thinking is that we have made it too easy for men to get whatever they want without having to work for it. I hate to say it,  but for the most part men are lazy these days when it comes to dating and finding a mate. And men as the creators and producers of media images, created the idea of a woman who does not exist and women often find themselves going crazy trying to fit the mold of something that does not exist.

There was a time when men would wait until the woman was ready, now everything is about the man's timing and when he's ready and we're the ones with the ticking clock. And I really abhor the concept of "finding and keeping a man" nothing gets under my skin more, as though men are this ultimate prize or gift to be sought.

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kseal33 5 pts

My head is spinning from all the articles about Gottlieb, love, and Valentine's Day.  She makes a convincing case for single parents who are looking for a partner to help raise a child and not much more.  Most of us who are looking for the real thing are not deluded by ideas of finding the perfect man as she suggests...we just want that true connection.  To know it when we see it.

That said, I'm all for keeping options open while dating.  I did the same thing---I dated everyone who asked me, and found some interesting people I wouldn't have dated and some that looked nice in their online profile but turned out to be angry and jaded.  You never know, but dating so many different types of guys really helped me figure out what was best for me in the long run.  I am thankful for all those "wasted years" that Gottlieb misses.

andreastaats 5 pts

I was horrified by her article in the Atlantic and I'm horrified that she was given a book deal out of it.

Don't settle. Don't ever settle. I thought I was doing a sensible, mature thing. I wasn't, and I learned that the hard way.

Thank you for writing such a great piece to counteract the insanity that folks like Gottlieb are putting out in the world.

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NicoleBlogs 5 pts

Bravo.

Your line, "When you don't settle, there are no sacrifices...." is solid!

I wish that an expert somewhere with tens of years of research on every possible aspect of this argument for settling and against settling would show up on TV, radio or Print media with an answer for women regarding this issue.

Settling may be a big mistake but there are women who may want to have children one day (the regular way, without any help from these wacky new advances in medicine that have popped up in the last decade or so) and let's face the music.......the options for men go down when women reach a certain age (I'm talking about that 30-40 age range), AND, as we women get older (35-40 and up), the less opportunity we have for giving birth to healthy children without defects so maybe, the case for settling has some validity.

Still, it would be nice to find that person to "play with" as you put it because that would make for a wonderful lifetime of joyous occasions, which is something that we all (or maybe most of us) want and are seeking. Now, I have a question: where do we find these men?

It would probably be fun to go on spontaneous dates like those three that you had, but I'd welcome any advice you would have for women who may be more conservative when it comes to dating and are hesitant to go out on a date with every man who asks them out.

Bill Cammack 5 pts

Unfortunately for y'all, women usually have to select from the subset of guys that WILL commit to you as opposed to the guys that you would LIKE to be committed to.

It's a strange and interesting dynamic when you get to watch it play out from the sidelines.  The odds of threading that needle aren't good.  When a guy's in demand AND willing to commit, he doesn't remain on the market for long because there are so many women throwing themselves at him.  The guys that AREN'T in demand are the ones that are more likely to be faithful because they're grateful to have a chick at all so they're the ones that end up married.

Then.. hehehe Women find it "strange" that they feel like hooking up with guys they're not married to.  They think they're supposed to be attracted to some guy just because they married him for financial and emotional security.  Life doesn't work like that.  Biology doesn't work like that.

I think the settling question depends on who she is as a person.  If she's mostly interested in security, settle.  If she's mostly interested in maximizing her relationship potential in life, stay the course and fight the good fight.

Settling always feels cheap in the face of actual passion & attraction.

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the evolving homemaker 5 pts

I was reading that holding my breath, waiting for the happy ending, at least some info on how I could have a happy ending.  The sotry about your parents is the marriage I would want.  At this moment, it isn't the marraige I have. 

But I think final judgement is every woman for herself.  My parents were divorced when I was two.  Right now I have two young children and I work with kids whose parents are divorced.  Divorce for kids sucks too.  Probably more so than a loveless marraige.  Reality is, my husband is so much part of the breath my children take everyday as I am.  For a moment imagine taking that breath away...for a five year old.

Sorry, but I think there is reason to stay together for the kids until you can find that relationship above.  It just takes an incredible amount of work.  I am not naive.  But this Mom is wiling to invest a lot of work to save my kids from the intense heartache and continually being shuffled from house to house, just because I might think that the grass is greener in another meadow.

I did love the post.  Wonderful and thought provoking!  A reminder for myself, of the investment I owe to this family.  I have been so lazy lately.

Jen

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TreniaP 5 pts

Wow! First of all, I was so deeply engrossed in the story you were weaving together about your parents, I felt like I was waiting to read the next chapter of a book. You're a great storyteller.

I'm a 30 year old, single black woman and there's so much doom and gloom out there about the lack of possibility of getting married it starts to make you crazy after a while. I broke up with someone not too long ago who sparked that thing inside me but he decided to end things, talk about a blow. But the really scary part is in all my years of dating he was the first person that I ever had a relationship with that sparked that passion and connection inside me, so I keep wondering if it will take me another 15 years to find it again. It's scary but I also know I will never be able to settle because I am such an intensely passionate person and I can't be with someone who doesn't share that with me, believe me I tried and it didn't work. I'm not sure what the answer is but settling is definitely not it, at least not for me.

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Laracolvin 5 pts

That's another thing: When you don't settle, there are no sacrifices. It just makes sense.

Amen.

AV, you know I am intimately familiar with that weight. To those us who crave the connection, the play, the recognition, it is undeniably heavy. And although I have friends who will swear soulmates don't exist and having a warm body next to you in the morning (regardless of whether you are going to enjoy that warm body) is what matters, I can't let it go. I can't stop thinking that my world will explode someday. Yes, maybe it will explode over and over, and I'll spend just as much time sinking as flying, but at least I'll be light and free to fall.

Lara

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divorcedbefore30 5 pts

This is a very thoughtful post! I have found that if a marriage feels even the slightest bit like settling, it is. And in my experience, that's not enough. But, to each her own!

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