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 <title>It&#039;s all about perspective</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;When you&#039;re just gardening for fun, at least, I think this experience really taught me that you have to keep it all in perspective.  I could go buy more pumpkins for what I&#039;d spend on chemicals....The bugs are not evil, they&#039;re just hungry....these are the things you have to say to yourself.  Easier said than done though!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:11:04 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Meryl Carver</dc:creator>
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 <title>Dueling to the death!</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Great, great post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is so easy to be organic until the bugs hit and all you can do is stand by and watch - helplessly.  I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not really a gardener.  I&#039;d be pulling out the chemicals.  I would, it shames me but it&#039;s honest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;~Denise&lt;br /&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:16:18 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Well, the book says if you squish them, they stink...but they can swim for quite a bit too, so they&#039;re hard to drown.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;Well, I have a torch, you could just burn them off.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;But I think that would burn my pumpkins too, and besides doesn&#039;t that seem a little...medieval?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;More so than stepping on them or drowning them?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;You have a point....&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So went a pre-bedtime conversation between Sweet Husband and I the other night, concerning the squash bugs that have set up camp in my pumpkin patch, decimating the vines faster than I thought possible.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They&#039;re a plague!  And I hate them, hate them, HATE THEM!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For a few days after I first noticed them, I had delusions of picking each one off one by one.  Unfortunately, aside from the tiny hives I get on my arms if I reach down into the prickly pumpkin vines--which is my official excuse--I am a complete wimp when it comes to certain types of bugs.  It&#039;s just something about the way they move--I can handle spiders, I like lady bugs--but these bugs stilt around on their freaky, little, black legs with their ugly, little, hard, gray shells--ergh!  And there are so many of them that they&#039;re more than capable of fighting back--I had just set my sights on my first victim when I caught one of his little pals trying to crawl up my shorts--ergh, ergh, ERGH!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After doing some ultimately inconclusive research online, my next step was to visit my friendly neighborhood nursery.  When I said &quot;squash bugs&quot; the Nice Owner gave me a kind and pitying look.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;What you have to understand about squash bugs is, once they&#039;re fully grown they&#039;re pretty much impervious to anything other than the pretty heavy chemicals.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I explained that our community garden rules prohibit any non-organic pesticides.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;Well, if that&#039;s the case, your best bet is to get them while they&#039;re young.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He recommended I hand pick and smash as many of their little bronze colored eggs as possible.  He then sold me some diatomaceous earth--the crushed up bones of various tiny sea creatures--which he said might help with the adolescent evil-doers.  (Well, he didn&#039;t actually say &quot;evil-doers&quot;, that&#039;s my addition.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, I trotted off to the garden, lured the little cucurbita killers out with some water, and powdered them down good.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At first it was nice to feel like I was doing something; as the sweat trickled down my back and more and more bugs seemed to appear however, I began to feel ineffectual.  There are certainly a few teenage and baby bugs that have partied their last, but knowing the adult bugs were unaffected--maybe laughing at me as they took another sip of my pumpkin-vine-juice cocktail--was kinda-sorta infuriating.  I went home dirty and disgruntled.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A cool shower and a nice back rub from Sweet Husband put things in better perspective.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At this point, I have four or five pumpkins that are nearly ripe (they&#039;re an early, small variety).  The bugs don&#039;t seem to be hurting them; but with the vines in such bad shape, even if all the bugs miraculously died tomorrow, I don&#039;t think I&#039;d get any new pumpkins.  Thus, the logical goal is to keep the vines alive just long enough to finish off what pumpkins I&#039;ve got, and then humanely put them out of their misery.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Logically, that makes sense, right?  But earlier today, when it was me versus them, locked in fierce combat, dueling to the death....If it had been my own personal garden, I would have been sorely tempted to nuke the bastards with everything I could--screw the butterflies, ladybugs, earthworms, and other innocent bystanders.  It&#039;s very easy to sanctimoniously say &quot;Oh, I don&#039;t believe in using pesticides&quot; and &quot;Being organic just takes a little more work, that&#039;s all.&quot;  But it&#039;s a bit harder to walk that line in the August heat when plants you&#039;ve worked hard over are going down the toilet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But next year...well, I think it&#039;s just a matter of paying closer attention.  Sweet Husband joked that&#039;s why master gardeners are all so old--it just takes that long to learn what to watch for.  Because now the squash bugs have lost their element of surprise.  Next year I&#039;ll know the pretty bronze eggs are up to no good; next year I&#039;ll take them out before they reach army size numbers.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But next year there will be some new type of bug to learn about the hard way too....&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:26:37 -0500</pubDate>
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