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CNN Projection : McCain Wins Florida

Catherine Morgan — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:13:59 -0600

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
CatherineBlogs, The Political Voices of Women, Care2 Election Blog

explain more...

Morra Aarons — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:00:31 -0600

I'm willing to believe you TW, the DNC can be incredily sall-minded. Except... I think perhaps the RNC was motivated not to enforce punishment because they have less skin in the game right now...their favorites aren't up there....there is no equivalent of a Clinton, a de facto head of the Democratic Party. motivating the RNC's actions.

but I don't know much about Republican Party politics- is it true the RNC cared less about unruly state party officials?

Wrist Slaps

TW — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:56:04 -0600

Ok, you folks often wonder about TW being a Republican and I think that this whole disenfranchisement thing embodies the issues I have with the Democratic party. The Democrats (as a party) tend to have these broad moralistic punishments of the "baddies". Republicans wrist slap and let God sort the baddies out.

~TW
Retro-Food

Interesting!

Jill — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:48:45 -0600

I wished I'd been following that more closely when it was happening - being in Ohio and knowing we weren't changing, I kind of let it slide. Curious to know what the consequences might have been if they did have the spine as you say.

Jill
Writes Like She Talks

Good chart to follow the returns

Jill — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:45:06 -0600

Check here.

Jill
Writes Like She Talks

That is why I won't do MSNBC

Denise — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:23:24 -0600

I will not even load their site if I can help it. I don't like Olbermann.

~Denise
BlogHer Community Manager

Flamingo House Happenings

Are they in an airplane hangar???

Catherine Morgan — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:16:38 -0600

Were are they??? It looks like CNN in covering the debate from an airplane hangar??? What's that about???

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
CatherineBlogs, The Political Voices of Women, Care2 Election Blog

Thanks for the update Kim...

Catherine Morgan — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:12:59 -0600

Thanks for the update Kim...I'm switching over to CNN. :)

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
CatherineBlogs, The Political Voices of Women, Care2 Election Blog

CNN calls Florida for Hillary

Kim Pearson — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:09:04 -0600

and has McCain with a slight lead over Romney. About 20 % of the precincts have reported on both sides.

Kim
BlogHer Contributing Editor|Professor Kim|

MSNBC & Keith Olbermann are infuriating me...

Catherine Morgan — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:04:32 -0600

MSNBC & Keith Olbermann are infuriating me...(I really wanted to say "pissing me off" but I didn't think that would be nice in the title).

Keith Olbermann won't call the Democratic primary in FL, a primary...he keeps saying he doesn't know what to call it. Like we're just a silly little fly in his pundit pudding, he can't be bothered. I'm really starting to not like him.

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
CatherineBlogs, The Political Voices of Women, Care2 Election Blog

try this piece from Kate Phillips

Morra Aarons — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:38:47 -0600

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/floridas-democratic-delega...

I need guidance...

JenInShanghai — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:21:33 -0600

Can someone point me to a website that will explain exactly why the Democrats don't matter in this primary in Florida (or why Michigan didn't count either) I still don't understand and the best I can make of the articles I have read is that it had something to do with dates switching and the DNC not liking that.... Thanks! I have to rely on the internet (sites that are not blocked) to get all my news and I am getting lost in a maze on this one.
Have a great evening!
Jen (in SNOWY! Shanghai)

I worked at the DNC briefly

Morra Aarons — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:42:39 -0600

state v national party enmity is a long, old story, and it poisons so many things, as we see here.

I agree with Denise: wish Obama and Edwards had shown more spine and respected the voters of Florida more than the idiots who are delegates, electors and State party officials.

This is one more reason I don't think Obama is as anti-Establishment as he positions himself to be, you know?

How do we give the DNC less power to do what they did

Jill — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:48:14 -0600

Is there an argument to be made that the DNC shouldn't have such a power, or that the ability to strip has to be decided with more, ahem, democracy in mind as opposed to rule-following?

I just don't know a lot about how the DNC works or is expected to work, but I would have hoped there's be some kind of override ability that gives the states the ultimate say so.

Jill
Writes Like She Talks

You tell 'em Catherine

Denise — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:59:48 -0600

Good post. I'm with you, even if you didn't vote for Hillary. ;-)

~Denise
BlogHer Community Manager

Flamingo House Happenings

Florida Primary -OPEN THREAD DISCUSSION

Erin Kotecki Vest — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:06:00 -0600

Floridians vote today in a tight GOP race while no Democratic party delegates are at stake.

CNN is showing Senator John McCain of Arizona and former Governor Mitt Romney of Massachusetts appear to be neck-and-neck, with a McCain win sure to cement his status as the national front-runner.

Democrats, meantime, pledged not to campaign in the Sunshine state as the party stripped Florida's delegates over scheduling. Senator Hillary Clinton continues to stress the state's importance calling it the "next battlefront" after she lost South Carolina to Senator Barack Obama. Clinton's campaign says the Senator will be in Florida tonight.

BlogHer's Catherine Morgan points out the early voting in Florida,

"This could throw a real monkey wrench into the outcome of our primary. Talk about a pollster and pundit nightmare."

According to the Florida Secretary of State, nearly 1 million voters have already cast their ballot prior to today-rivaling the 1.3 million TOTAL voters who participated in the state's 2000 primary.

Anne at BackYard Conservative weighs in on the latest poll numbers from Florida, while Lauren Kirchner at 23/6 ponders who will get ex-candidate Fred Thompson's votes.

Join us as we watch Florida results, leave your links, comments, and posts as the Sunshine State weighs in on Election '08. Don't forget to use the Mr. Linky Widget at the bottom of this post, it's an easy way to leave your link!