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Obama Takes Hawaii

Erin Kotecki Vest — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:45:01 -0600

Preliminary partial results of the Hawai'i Presidential Preference Poll :

With less than 10% of precincts reporting, total ballots cast are reported as follows:

Barack Obama 2,258
Hillary Clinton 666

Politics & News Contributing Editor
Queen of Spain

Heavy Turn Out in Hawaii

Erin Kotecki Vest — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:37:01 -0600

The Democratic Party of Hawaii is reporting heavy turnout and allowed those in line at polling places to finish their caucus after polls had closed. You can monitor results at
http://www.hawaiidemocrats.org/

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Queen of Spain

Returns and Polls

Erin Kotecki Vest — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:35:31 -0600

Thanks for joining us grrenkarma!

All winners are "projected" by various media outlets. It comes down to statistics and counties, etc. The exit polling that is reported can not contain any numbers-only stats like "we're seeing more white women vote obama in this county" so as not to sway voters who may hear it before entering their polling place.

So any numbers you hear after polls have closed are then projections, which media outlets have all revamped since the Gore/Bush Florida debacle.

Politics & News Contributing Editor
Queen of Spain

voting polls

grrenkarma — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:07:52 -0600

how can you actually win if only half are reporting? and i wonder how many new votes are swayed by the exit polls? oh, one more question, what useful things could campaign money really be spent on?

McCain wins Washington

Erin Kotecki Vest — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:43:39 -0600

49% with 53% reporting

Politics & News Contributing Editor
Queen of Spain

Take it slow.

Catherine Morgan — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:14:18 -0600

That is quite an irony. Your parents should just be proud that they raised a daughter who can think for herself. ;-)

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
CatherineBlogs, The Political Voices of Women, Care2 Election Blog

You know what's really

Dana J. Tuszke — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:59:02 -0600

You know what's really funny? My parents were Democrats until 1979. Then they became Republicans.

My father will cry if I end up changing from Republican to Democrat. Talk about irony.

You're turning into a true-blue Democrat Dana. :-)

Catherine Morgan — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:42:13 -0600

I love how fired-up you are about Obama. I think it's great. And, I don't even disagree with you. But something about Obama is just getting under my skin...I actually think it's Michelle Obama that is giving me a bad taste in my mouth (some of the stuff she says and how she says it)...She seems like such a downer. I know that sounds terrible, but I can't help it.

And I really need to stick up for Hillary, because my mom says she will be heartbroken if she doesn't get a chance to vote for a woman in her lifetime. How can I argue with that?

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
CatherineBlogs, The Political Voices of Women, Care2 Election Blog

Arrogance is necessary, I'd imagine.

lauriewrites — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:40:25 -0600

Obama doesn't want for self-congratulation, and I'd be very suspect of anyone who claims they're going to change the WORLD who did.

This is a pretty big job interview. If you have experience, you say so. If you think you're going to change the world, you say so. You duke it out. They have both done this, in their own way. It really is all a game...just hopefully this time it'll end up with some policies and improved global relationships we can live with. That would make it all worth it for everyone.

Laurie
LaurieWrites

Hillary doesn't appear

Dana J. Tuszke — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:39:46 -0600

Hillary doesn't appear sincere. I'm listening to her speak and she sounds like she's just going through the motions. But she's tired, she's losing her voice and she's still carrying on. I give her credit for that.

I'm with you, PunditMom

lauriewrites — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:33:51 -0600

Obama doesn't move me at all and I wanted to be moved, believe me. I've seen him in person, have read a ton, both pro and con, and I just don't have this overwhelming sense of wonder and excitement that he seems to incite in so many people. I hope I'm just missing something, and that if he wins it's a good thing.

It's really about the greater good, not any one person.

Laurie
LaurieWrites

She may have the experience,

Dana J. Tuszke — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:28:02 -0600

She may have the experience, but she hasn't done anything to earn my respect. I don't trust her. And her true colors shine through each and every time she loses to Obama -- Reuben Navarrette, Jr. wrote a great piece about her "likability factor".

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/op-ed/navarrette/20080217-9999-lz1e17...

She didn't give two cents about me in Wisconsin. She put out negative campaign ads here, that really turned me off. It's like there are two faces of Hillary.

Not only that, I dislike her health care plan. And I dislike her arrogance, as though she thinks she "deserves" to win because she has more experience.

Which is exactly why I wish this were all done sooner...

Erin Kotecki Vest — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:27:58 -0600

...rather than later. The longer this fight goes, I think the worse off that idea will become.

Also...from earlier

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Not_waiting.html

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Queen of Spain

Not to break-up the Obama love-fest...

Catherine Morgan — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:16:11 -0600

Not to break-up the Obama love-fest...But, I'm just not ready to give up on a possible Clinton/Obama ticket. I think we have a better chance of winning against McCain with Clinton/Obama...Did you hear McCain going on and on about Obama's lack of experience in his speech earlier tonight?

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
CatherineBlogs, The Political Voices of Women, Care2 Election Blog

I Want Another Candidate

PunditMom — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:11:56 -0600

I just wish I could feel that any of the candidates still in the race are genuine. I'm not liking Obama, but I'm not getting a good feeling for Hillary either. For me, no sense in talking about McCain.

Hillary's got the Bill baggage. I don't think Obama is genuine and I can't vote for a Republican.

I guess I have to find another country!

Wisconsin, Hawaii, Washington-it's your turn. OPEN THREAD DISCUSSION

Erin Kotecki Vest — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:53:23 -0600

Today's magic number? 150.

150 delegates up for grabs in Hawaii, Wisconsin, and Washington as they vote in primaries and caucus. 94 Democratic delegates and 56 Republican delegates.

Bad weather is reported in Wisconsin with temperatures in the single digits and snow possible. BlogHer Contributing Editor Dana Tuszke made it to the polling place on her lunch hour.

Pam at Right Voices says simply of today's primaries, "Yawn!"

While Althouse is "Cold, but fired up."

In Hawaii, where the weather is much more agreeable, voters will caucus.

Senator Barack Obama's sister has been campaigning on his behalf. Maya Soetoro-Ng tells CNN, ""I'd like for people to understand he is without a doubt, precisely what he says he is -- he really has the power to do this." Meanwhile, Senator Hillary Clinton's daughter Chelsea has been traveling the islands for the past three days speaking to voters.

In Washington, the democratic caucus and primary results were determined on February 9th, but the Republican Party uses results from both the 9th and today to determine how delegates will be appointed. You can find a good explaination on the Washington State Primary/Caucus system at votesmart.org.

Will today be a turning point for either democratic campaigns? Will Mike Huckabee lose in Washington and call it quits over John McCain? This thread is your place to discuss, link, and watch with us as we see what Wisconsin, Hawaii, and Washington do in Election '08.