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 <description>&lt;p&gt;1&lt;br /&gt;
                                                                          AN ODE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                    MY VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                           THREE WAYS TO SEE ME&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                          JANE WOULD UNDERSTAND&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you know who I am?&lt;br /&gt;
I am dignity&lt;br /&gt;
Finally my self esteem&lt;br /&gt;
Speaks of me&lt;br /&gt;
Sees me&lt;br /&gt;
To place me&lt;br /&gt;
Before thee&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That you will spare me&lt;br /&gt;
The indignity that&lt;br /&gt;
Has happened in my past&lt;br /&gt;
Set before me&lt;br /&gt;
In your morbid light&lt;br /&gt;
That would set you&lt;br /&gt;
So above me&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You think this does&lt;br /&gt;
Not happen now&lt;br /&gt;
                    Yet it does&lt;br /&gt;
                     Jane would know&lt;br /&gt;
You think it has changed since far ago&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And know&lt;br /&gt;
Now I can realize&lt;br /&gt;
I can look down upon you&lt;br /&gt;
From the height of myself&lt;br /&gt;
As you once did me      &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                             AS&lt;br /&gt;
YOU YET KNOW THIS NOW&lt;br /&gt;
I WILL NOT BEAR THAT SHAME                        SHAME ON YOU&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                                                                                                            2&lt;br /&gt;
                                                                        AN ODE&lt;br /&gt;
                                                    MY VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For do you know who I am&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am Artemee’s and Robert’s&lt;br /&gt;
Dutiful granddaughter&lt;br /&gt;
This boatman and farmer and that constable&lt;br /&gt;
Salted in the rights of&lt;br /&gt;
Cuchulainn’s daughter&lt;br /&gt;
Raised in the dignity of the Mystic Carmen Sylva&lt;br /&gt;
Named for her    raised for the pride of her&lt;br /&gt;
Raised beyond your slight of her&lt;br /&gt;
A Jew  A Greek  A Roumanian&lt;br /&gt;
Scandanavian French  Scots Irish&lt;br /&gt;
The Roumania Greek Orthodox, Jew and Protestant&lt;br /&gt;
The spirituality that is as a thread woven through my life from her&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are forgetting who we are from her&lt;br /&gt;
You Anglicized past her&lt;br /&gt;
And I held my grace with her&lt;br /&gt;
I can not forget my common past&lt;br /&gt;
The greatness I felt in being Earl’s daughter&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You think I can forget the dignity &amp;amp; passion&lt;br /&gt;
That drove those men to find their place in this harsh world and land&lt;br /&gt;
Jane would know&lt;br /&gt;
I so feel the self respect from her/them&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you know your place?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                      Remember that&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you know who I am?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am Americas 2nd daughter&lt;br /&gt;
Not the pride of the DAR                 the seed of the revolution&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am the seed of the émigré’&lt;br /&gt;
Coming here to fill the vast empty spaces&lt;br /&gt;
Sheltered in those spaces by invitation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Give me your tired, your poor&lt;br /&gt;
Your huddled masses yearning to breath free”                 &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                                                                                                       3&lt;br /&gt;
                                                                 AN ODE&lt;br /&gt;
                                                    MY VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am the 2nd daughter   2nd generation    2nd wave of the future&lt;br /&gt;
Umbrellaed by the Thomas Jefferson and the Constitution&lt;br /&gt;
He so knowingly wrote&lt;br /&gt;
Knowing that émigré would not stop at Scots &amp;amp; English &amp;amp; Welsh Anglican&lt;br /&gt;
It would encase, enclose and enmesh         all&lt;br /&gt;
All nations      all races      ALL GENDERS&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So knowingly he embraced all of the freedoms&lt;br /&gt;
we would need to protect our&lt;br /&gt;
freedom and freedoms&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I and my sister Hillary Clinton stand under that light&lt;br /&gt;
Though you belittle us     make us only slightly smaller&lt;br /&gt;
That slightly is enough for me to say&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you know who I am&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am America’s daughter&lt;br /&gt;
Granddaughter&lt;br /&gt;
Daughter&lt;br /&gt;
Niece&lt;br /&gt;
Niece&lt;br /&gt;
Sister&lt;br /&gt;
Aunt&lt;br /&gt;
Mother&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;grandfather            Quarter Master Sargent Zenofor Hortopan             WWI&lt;br /&gt;
daughter                 Sargent Earl Melvin Johnston                                WWII&lt;br /&gt;
 uncle                     Petty Officer Walter Swick                                     WWII&lt;br /&gt;
uncle                      Petty Officer Guy Robert Johnston                         WWII&lt;br /&gt;
brother                   Lance Corporal John Zenofor Englemann               Vietnamese War&lt;br /&gt;
nephew                  Airman Ben Englemann                                           Civil duty&lt;br /&gt;
son                         Lance Corporal Christopher Marc Lenehan             Desert Storm&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                                                                                                           4&lt;br /&gt;
                                                                              AN ODE&lt;br /&gt;
                                                    MY VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you know who I am&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                                    A woman&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                                 Hillary’s sister&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                             Jane would understand&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                                The cradle at&lt;br /&gt;
                                                                Whose breast&lt;br /&gt;
                                                                 We nurtured&lt;br /&gt;
                                                                 This nation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                            I NEED HILLARY&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                          SHE KNOWS MOST&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                           What this nation needs&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                             WHAT WE NEED&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                     DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                                A WOMAN&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                            A SINGLE 2ND GENERATION  MOTHER&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                        WHO RAISED A CHILD ALONE IN AMERICA&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                                                                   HAASE JOHNSTON&lt;br /&gt;
                                                                                                   MOON TWP.&lt;br /&gt;
                                                                                                   PITTSBURGH, PA&lt;br /&gt;
This is written for Hillary Clinton and she may use it any way she chooses with my permission  Virginia haase johnston&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:24:37 -0600</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hunters will always be heroes.&quot;  I&#039;m not sold on the argument that there is rampant, misogynistic anti-Hillary bias in the mainstream media, but I do think that there is a relationship between the treatment of women in the media and the diversity of the press corps. (In fact, here&#039;s an article alleging that the New York Times, at least, has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.utne.com/2008-02-22/Media/The-New-York-Times-to-Hillary-Im-Gonna-Keep-On-Loving-You.aspx?utm_content=2%2F29%2F2008+Media+20080229153201&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Media&amp;amp;utm_source=iPost&amp;amp;utm_medium=email&quot;&gt;pro-Hillary bias&lt;/a&gt;. I think we have seen some horrific things in the popular culture. The obsession with Hillary&#039;s tears was insane. What I found most appalling was the people who created the Hillary &quot;nutcracker.&quot; Talking about projecting your own insecurities!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s really interesting to see what happens when a woman, in this case, Joan Morgan, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vibe.com/news/online_exclusives/2008/02/decision08_hillary_clinton_obama&quot; /&gt;interviews  &lt;/a&gt; Hillary. (Hat tip to &lt;a href=&quot;http://newblackman.blogspot.com&quot;&gt;Mark Anthony Neal&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
VIBE: One of the reasons this campaign is so fascinating, this moment where we could actually have a woman president is...Amazing. I meet young women from some of the finest universities in the United States who are actually quite conflicted about how smart they are, how intelligent they are, and how much opportunity they have.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CLINTON: I know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;VIBE: It ends up coming back to “If I get the PhD. Am I ever going to get —&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CLINTON: The MRS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;VIBE: Exactly. What do you feel your candidacy represents for them?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CLINTON: I hope it puts to rest those concerns. Because I encounter them too — both in a very explicit way, and implicitly in this campaign. There has just been this undercurrent of women’s roles and women’s leadership and women’s choices. It’s feeling a little bit like back to the future, because when I was a young woman it was very explicit. I had friends who didn’t take certain courses because they thought they’d be viewed as unmarriageable. They didn’t go into professions. They didn’t go into business. We’ve gotten way beyond that, but for so many women it is still a conflict between your ambitions, your motivations, and your insecurities. The barriers may have fallen through passing laws, but the internal doubts haven’t yet been overcome. And I think breaking the hardest and highest glass ceiling would give so much courage to so many women. And women say that to me. They say, ‘I watch you and I watch what you go through and I know I can do it. I know I can make it.’ I think it would be a great signal for our sons and our daughters. Judge us on who we are as people. Make choices that will fulfill you. Look for ways you can fulfill who you are meant to be. And I hope that I can play some small role in that...
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kim&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogher.org/blog/kim-pearson&quot;&gt;BlogHer Contributing Editor&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;a href=&quot;http://professorkim.blogspot.com&quot;&gt;Professor Kim&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:36:09 -0600</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;A few things are clear to me this week.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://shesoghetto.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/miley-cyrus-looking-way-beyond-hannah-montana/&quot;&gt;Hannah Montana is the next big thing&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll need some help to survive the fact that &lt;a href=&quot;http://bloggingprojectrunway.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;Project Runway Season Four&lt;/a&gt; will soon be over&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLIasbt_0xE&quot;&gt;attacking Hillary Clinton has become a blood sport&lt;/a&gt;, even &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=162951&amp;amp;title=anti-hillary-conspiracy&quot;&gt;for the comedians.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not by everyone in the media.  And not all the time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But to me, there is&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODHaIDfPXU&quot;&gt; no longer a question&lt;/a&gt; about bias.  The question now is, &quot;Why?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it because she&#039;s too well-known or overly familiar?  Thirty women weighed in on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Thirty-Ways-Looking-Hillary-Reflections/dp/0061455938&quot;&gt;Thirty Ways of Looking at Hillary&lt;/a&gt;, and they were not all complementary, as pointed out by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-benedict/thirty-ways-of-lookin_b_82855.html&quot;&gt;Elizabeth Benedict at the Huffington Post maybe it&#039;s because she&#039;s not like the rest of us:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another way that Hillary is not like the rest of us is that she has long been the object of maniacal obsession by the left, right and center, and that will not end anytime soon, win or lose. She is different from the smart, accomplished writers who make up the provocative, glittering mosaic that is &lt;em&gt;Thirty Ways of Looking at Hillary&lt;/em&gt;, and she is different from every man who is running or has ever run for President: no one has been dissected the way she&#039;s been, no one has been subjected to relentless and catty condemnation of his hair, his wardrobe, his popcorn-eating habits in college, his cooking, his cookie recipes, his invented sexual proclivities, or his marriage -- even the faithless Giuliani or McCain, with the trophy wife for whom he ditched his previous wife -- the way Hillary has been.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or is it just because she&#039;s got two X chromosomes?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/3500/context/uncoveringgender&quot;&gt;Elizabeth Keathley at Women&#039;s eNews suggests:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Voices as diverse as Virginia Woolf, Barbra Streisand and punk rocker Kathleen Hanna have remarked that women and men doing the same things are judged differently--women more negatively--and that this double standard has circumscribed the range of socially acceptable behavior available to women.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The third possibility is that it has nothing to do with the fact that the &quot;first serious woman presidential candidate&quot; happens to be the wife of former President Bill Clinton, the man the GOP loves to hate.  Maybe it&#039;s just because women aren&#039;t being true to the cause -- if we were more committed to sister Hillary, would the guys back down?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/#cat=new&amp;amp;sec=1a&amp;amp;mea=221773&quot;&gt;Tina Fey thinks so.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe it would happen to anyone.  It is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cafepress.com/shoptheright/553868&quot;&gt;good way to sell T-shirts&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some journalists could also use a thesaurus.  There are ways of legitimately criticizing Hillary&#039;s views or how she&#039;s run her campaign without calling her witchy, stern, a scold or the myriad other derogatory terms the main stream media has used to describe her.  I couldn&#039;t come up with any similar terms that have been used to negatively describe the male candidates.  They&#039;ve pretty much gotten a pass.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C7P9739H_w&quot;&gt;Granted, Clinton has not always handling the bias well.&lt;/a&gt;  And finding a way to deflect or diffuse the attacks is something she should have figured out much earlier and could have been helpful to her campaign.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The way the coverage of Hillary Clinton has played out should be an instructive lesson for whoever the next &quot;serious woman presidential candidate&quot; is, regardless of what happens to Hillary&#039;s campaign. The media landscape and its play book aren&#039;t going to change that much between now and 2021.  And I suspect that the sexism that invades our media coverage won&#039;t either.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How the next viable woman presidential candidate deals with our country&#039;s ingrained attitudes about women should be instructive.  Hopefully, our daughters will be paying attention, too, and can help turn attitudes in the direction of being more accepting of any qualified candidate, regardless of gender.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And in the meantime, I hope reporters will take a few of those angry vocabulary words out of their arsenal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://punditom1.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;PunditMom&lt;/a&gt; is a BlogHer Contributing Editor for Politics and News.&lt;/p&gt;
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