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 <title>Esther was a vegetarian</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;A friend of mine posited this explanation for how Esther could remain true to her faith&#039;s eating traditions and still hide her Jewish identity in the palace...eating vegetarian would have been the only way. It always struck me as interesting trivia -- fine article, btw. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;--Mata &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs relentlessly at &lt;a href=&quot;http://timesfool.blogspot.com&quot;&gt;Time&#039;s Fool&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:43:04 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Mata H</dc:creator>
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 <title>Totally!</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Last year I wrote about that - because I can&#039;t believe this but at 44, I&#039;d never realized that about Vashti!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with you, Vered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com&quot;&gt;Writes Like She Talks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:07:20 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
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 <title>She Was a Feminist</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;At the Jewish orthodox elementary school I attended, in Jerusalem of the 1970s, Vashti was grouped with the “bad guys”. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Years later, I realized that Vashti was probably trying to hold on to her self-dignity by refusing to appear as a sexual object. She paid a huge price for that refusal. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It still bothers me that while Esther was indeed brave, the only way for her to get what she wanted was basically through the kings’ bed. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Vered DeLeeuw&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.momgrind.com&quot; title=&quot;www.momgrind.com&quot;&gt;www.momgrind.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:53:38 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Vered</dc:creator>
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 <title>So glad!</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I posted &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/03/16/what-do-jews-do-purim-2008/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; about Purim yesterday too. :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Have a great holiday and thanks for more links.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jill&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://writeslikeshetalks.com&quot;&gt;Writes Like She Talks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:27:47 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
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 <title>Esther &amp; Vashti: Women to Remember</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/holiday9.html&quot;&gt;Purim&lt;/a&gt; has always been one of my favorite holidays, because it celebrates the story of Esther, one of the few women in the Torah who is widely remembered. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you’re unfamiliar with the story of Esther, here’s synopsis: Esther, a Jew, is kidnapped from her family to join a grand beauty pageant for the Persian King. The King was looking for a new wife, because the former Queen, Vashti, had refused his orders to come before his male courtiers in order to be viewed as a prized treasure – as a sexual object. With Vashti exiled, Esther is chosen as the King’s new bride, and lives in the women’s quarters of the palace. When Haman, the King’s advisor, brokers a deal to have all the Jews killed, Esther’s cousin Mordechai gets a message to her. Mordechai asks her to go before the King in order to plead with him to spare her people. Although appearing before the King unbidden could result in death, Esther does so not once, but three times, and secures the King’s promise to save her people. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Traditionally Vashti is viewed as a disobedient woman. (One children’s video portrays her as getting kicked out of the kingdom for refusing to make the king a sandwich!) Sometimes she is seen as being power hungry and vain (as in Rebecca Kohn’s otherwise fascinating adaptation, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Gilded-Chamber-Novel-Queen-Esther/dp/B000ECXDVM/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205759792&amp;amp;sr=8-1&quot;&gt;The Gilded Chamber.&lt;/a&gt;) But many female Jewish scholars are writing new and more accurate midrash for Vashti. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lilith.org/whoweare.htm&quot;&gt;Susan Schnur&lt;/a&gt; (as quoted &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ritualwell.org/holidays/primaryobject.2005-06-28.6686065022&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) asks:  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;When, though, I wonder, will women finally create a morally defensible re-write of these chapters? Why aren&#039;t we insisting that our synagogue communities cheer and stomp their feet at the mention of Vashti&#039;s name? She is a foremother in the best sense of the word – assertive, appropriate, courageous&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In order to honor both the women features in the Purim story, many celebrants are now incorporating &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ritualwell.org/holidays/primaryobject.2005-06-28.0579156211&quot;&gt;flags with images of Esther and Vashti &lt;/a&gt; into their communal celebrations. Now, when the story is read, Haman is booed and drowned out with noisemakers, Mordecai is cheered and lauded, and both Vashti and Esther are named with shouts and the waving of banners. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ritualwell.org/holidays/primaryobject.2005-06-28.1464370738I&quot;&gt;Tamera Cohen&lt;/a&gt; reminds us:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;…the Purim flag offers us an opportunity to do more than balance our attention to men&#039;s names with attention to women&#039;s names; it does more than allow us an opportunity for some feminist fun. When we wave our flags at the mention of Vashti and Esther&#039;s names we begin to shift the focus of Purim. No longer do we need to accept that the opposition of &quot;blessed Mordecai&quot; and &quot;cursed Haman&quot; encompasses the story of Purim or the story of Jewish experience. By focusing on Vashti and Esther, as well as Haman and Mordecai, we open up the possibility of telling a more complete and complex Purim story, a story that includes the experiences of women and a story that honors the possibility of potential alliances between Jews and non-Jews.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In most of the Torah and in Bible, women play a central, but unsung role in the building-block stories of Jewish and Christian history. Esther is an exception to that trend, and is one of the only books named after a female figure. It’s exciting to see both Esther and Vashti garner the remembrance they deserve in the re-telling of this tale. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For more information on Purim:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Tenney&quot;&gt;Tommy Tenney&lt;/a&gt; gives readers ages 10-14 a beautifully illustrated rendition of Esther, called here by her original Hebrew name, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764227386/ref=s9_asin_title_1_subs_c2_62_28_10-2785_g1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;amp;pf_rd_s=center-2&amp;amp;pf_rd_r=03ETSK85TVWMT2GMA3M9&amp;amp;pf_rd_t=101&amp;amp;pf_rd_p=278240301&amp;amp;pf_rd_i=507846&quot;&gt;Hadasshah,&lt;/a&gt; meaning “star.”  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then he joins up with director Michael Sajbel creates the sumptuous film &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onenightwiththeking.com/ &quot;&gt;One Night With the King,&lt;a /&gt; now available on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/One-Night-King-Tiffany-Dupont/dp/B000JJSJO6/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=dvd&amp;amp;qid=1205761522&amp;amp;sr=8-1&quot;&gt;DVD.&lt;/a&gt; (The film version is not appropriate for children.)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yet another intriguing version of the story is offered as graphic novel &lt;a href=&quot;http://megillatesther.com/preview.htm&quot;&gt;here,&lt;/a&gt; by JT Waldman.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For Purim treats and tips, Penny Eisenberg offers a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pennyeisenberg.com/recipes/hamantashen.html&quot;&gt;recipe for Hamantashen&lt;/a&gt;; triangle shaped fruit-filled cookies also known as “Haman’s Hat,’ or “Haman’s Purse. And if  you want to try your hand at the whole feast, I can recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Celebrating-Biblical-Feasts-Your-Church/dp/0764228978/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205761751&amp;amp;sr=8-2&quot;&gt;Celebrate the Jewish Feasts&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bakerpublishinggroup.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=0477683E4046471488BD7BAC8DCFB004&amp;amp;nm=&amp;amp;type=PubCom&amp;amp;mod=PubComProductCatalog&amp;amp;mid=BF1316AF9E334B7BA1C33CB61CF48A4E&amp;amp;tier=25&amp;amp;id=8C08E0C5BF704D978F5DBF145A3B06DE&quot;&gt;Martha Zimmerman&lt;/a&gt; which offers tips for Purim novices. And you&#039;ll find recipes to melt a foodie’s heart in &lt;a href=&quot;The Frugal Gourmet Keeps the Feasts.&quot;&gt; by &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frugal_Gourmet&quot;&gt;Jeff Smith.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, go out and drink enough that you don’t know the difference between, “blessed be Mordechai” and “cursed be Haman”…or better yet, drink a round of toasts to Queens Vashti and Esther!&lt;/p&gt;
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