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 <description>&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s what BlogHers do! :) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com&quot;&gt;Writes Like She Talks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:56:34 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;And &lt;u&gt;both&lt;/u&gt; of you always make &lt;u&gt;ME&lt;/u&gt; think! :)&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:49:57 -0500</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you, Jill and Kim. I will read up on the links you sent and will continue to send out prayers before, during , and after our seder.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Peace to you and yours - and all,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lara &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://notionsofidentity.blogspot.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Notions of Identity&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:42:15 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Laracolvin</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve heard of that group before! Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes - there is a section of the service where we add in wishes/prayers for others - for the last two years, nationally, we&#039;ve been asked to insert something related to Darfur, but in each home - since that&#039;s where the service usually occurs, you can do pretty much whatever you feel is appropriate and suits your audience.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will be honest - I am by far the most liberal of the folks I&#039;ll be with tomorrow evening, at least among the Jews who will be with us. It will be five families who are Jewish and two who are not but all the Jewish guests, although progressive in many other politics, are not dovish at all on Israel. This is, as you may know, not atypical.  For me, it&#039;s actually a real problem - because many of the people with whom I serve my synagogue are quite hawkish.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For another post someday. :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But - I will give serious thought to how I voice my hopes and still can be a good hostess - and a good Jew.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks Kim - you always make me think. :) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com&quot;&gt;Writes Like She Talks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:39:39 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
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 <title>Have you heard of Combatants for Peace?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;There is a group of former Israeli and Palestinian fighters who have laid down their arms to work together for mutual understanding. It is the most hopeful thing I have heard for a long time. Perhaps there is some way to work in a prayer for their success during one of your seders -- I don&#039;t know how much liberty you take with your Haggadah.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is a link to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.combatantsforpeace.org/&quot;&gt;Combatants for Peace&lt;/a&gt; website.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Guten pesach to you and yours, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kim&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogher.org/blog/kim-pearson&quot;&gt;BlogHer Contributing Editor&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;a href=&quot;http://professorkim.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;Professor Kim&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:32:51 -0500</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I completely understand the conflict you describe. I&#039;d like to suggest two things to read: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ishmaelandisaac.org/&quot;&gt;Isaac and Ishmael&lt;/a&gt; is an organization that seeks to bridge the divides on behalf of all the people in Israel and the occupied territories. You might want to read up on them - and I do believe that there are other groups like it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. I wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/11/111036/548/579/321804&quot;&gt;this post last year on Daily kos&lt;/a&gt; and it includes made sentiments about how conflicted I often feel too.  maybe the commiseration will help. :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chag Sameach. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com&quot;&gt;Writes Like She Talks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:04:58 -0500</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Passover, the religious holiday celebrating the liberation of the&lt;br /&gt;
Jewish people from slavery in the land of Egypt, is almost upon us.&lt;br /&gt;
While the holiday is certainly all about the food (and is one of my&lt;br /&gt;
favorites because of it), the story of Passover is particularly&lt;br /&gt;
relevant to our world today. Rejoicing in our freedom weaves graceful&lt;br /&gt;
notes of story, prayer, and toasts throughout my family&#039;s seder. But&lt;br /&gt;
this year, in particular, I will listen to the lessons of history and&lt;br /&gt;
liberation, and instead of only joy, I know I will also be embracing&lt;br /&gt;
conflict and hypocrisy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For how can I truly proclaim to be free if the country created as a haven for my people is still&lt;br /&gt;
oppressing others? I don&#039;t know enough about the history of Israel and&lt;br /&gt;
Palestine to make a solid judgement about the Gaza and West Bank&lt;br /&gt;
occupation, nor do I know where to find objective research or teachers&lt;br /&gt;
to guide me in this rumination. However, in the limited study I&#039;ve&lt;br /&gt;
allowed myself, I do see evidence of suffering because of the continued&lt;br /&gt;
conflict, and I know the Palestinians are humans trying (much like&lt;br /&gt;
Israeli&#039;s and people all over the world) to feed, clothe, and support&lt;br /&gt;
their children and grandchildren so their futures are better than their&lt;br /&gt;
histories. They are not all terrorists or murders or Jew haters. And&lt;br /&gt;
suffering, whether in Iraq, Israel, Palestine, Africa, Tibet, or&lt;br /&gt;
anywhere else cannot lead to peace; those causing the suffering cannot&lt;br /&gt;
consider themselves free;those supporting the violence cannot avoid&lt;br /&gt;
responsibility. I believe this with every fiber of my being.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So on this Passover, I&#039;m conflicted. Very, very conflicted.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In&lt;br /&gt;
trying to make sense of my reflections, I&#039;ve scoured the blogosphere to&lt;br /&gt;
read what other bloggers are writing. A few posts in particular&lt;br /&gt;
resonated. Donna Mills on &lt;a href=&quot;http://momocrats.typepad.com/momocrats&quot;&gt;MOMocrats&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
addressed the disequilibrium experienced by many Jewish Americans today&lt;br /&gt;
and the criticism encountered by those who question what is happening&lt;br /&gt;
in the Middle East: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Decades of war between Arabs and Jews, oil diplomacy, and a growing feeling&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;that supporting Israel may no longer be in our best interest are all making&lt;br /&gt;Jewish Americans feel off-kilter...I hear this kind of thing from friends who&lt;br /&gt;accuse NPR of being pro-Arab, because they air reports that are sympathetic to&lt;br /&gt;Palestinians, as well as those that are told from the Israeli viewpoint. I call&lt;br /&gt;that balance, but to a lot of Jewish people in this country, any criticism of&lt;br /&gt;Israel is considered an attack.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&lt;br /&gt;
was so grateful when this feed showed up on my Bloglines account today.&lt;br /&gt;
Up until this post (with the exception of a few conversations), I&#039;ve&lt;br /&gt;
questioned in silence for this very reason. Much like dissenters or&lt;br /&gt;
pacifists were called unpatriotic after the United States&#039; response to&lt;br /&gt;
the 9/11 attacks, I knew if I uttered my doubts about Israel&#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
occupation, I&#039;d be called an anti-Zionist or a&amp;quot;bad Jew&amp;quot;. My own doubt&lt;br /&gt;
weighs heavily enough; I am not sure I could withstand a verbal&lt;br /&gt;
assault. So I&#039;ve remained silent. And as we all know (intended or not),&lt;br /&gt;
silence is acquiescence.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not sure where this post - or rambling - will lead me. I&#039;m exploring an organization called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/&quot;&gt;Jewish Voice for Peace&lt;/a&gt;. Their Mission Statement is as follows:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jewish Voice for Peace is a diverse and democratic community of activists&lt;br /&gt;inspired by Jewish tradition to work together for peace, social justice, and&lt;br /&gt;human rights.  We support the aspirations of Israelis and Palestinians for&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;security and self-determination.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;We seek:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;- A U.S. foreign policy based on promoting peace, democracy, human rights,&lt;br /&gt;and respect for international law.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;- An end to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and East&lt;br /&gt;Jerusalem.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;- A resolution of the Palestinian refugee problem consistent with&lt;br /&gt;international law and equity.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;- An end to all violence against civilians.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;- Peace among the peoples of the Middle East.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;We are among the many American Jews who say to the U.S. and Israeli&lt;br /&gt;governments: &amp;quot;Not in our names!&amp;quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogher.com/passover-coming-and-joy-abounds-or-it-takes-village-get-anyone-through-exodus&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m&lt;br /&gt;
leaning towards supporting this group, but I&#039;m still hesitant and&lt;br /&gt;
haven&#039;t reconciled how it will affect my Jewish identity. How can my&lt;br /&gt;
social identity grow stronger with an alliance of this kind and my&lt;br /&gt;
religious identity weaken at the same time? Must one be at the expense&lt;br /&gt;
of the other?&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogher.com/passover-coming-and-joy-abounds-or-it-takes-village-get-anyone-through-exodus&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;So&lt;br /&gt;
battered just a bit after these questions, I continued reading blogs.&lt;br /&gt;
And in the middle of this great philosophical distraction of mine, I&lt;br /&gt;
found peace in the following entry.
&lt;p&gt;On &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogher.com/passover-coming-and-joy-abounds-or-it-takes-village-get-anyone-through-exodus&quot;&gt;Blogher&lt;/a&gt;, Mata H eloquently touches on the essence of Passover and all religions, I think. She writes,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Passover&lt;br /&gt;
reminds us that we can&#039;t get through this life alone. One of the things&lt;br /&gt;
I admire most about Judaism is what seems to me ... as a&lt;br /&gt;
sense of connectedness, each Jewish person to each other Jewish person.&lt;br /&gt;
There is a lingering sense of tribe, a remnant of years wandering&lt;br /&gt;
together, depending on each other&#039;s help, surviving the worst of&lt;br /&gt;
persecutions together, sharing the best joys and the most agonizing of&lt;br /&gt;
griefs. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The depth of tribalism&lt;br /&gt;
is the sense that although we may differ, even dramatically, we are&lt;br /&gt;
bound up with each other in inescapable ways. You are part of me. I am&lt;br /&gt;
part of you. We are part of something greater.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We are part of something greater.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And&lt;br /&gt;
that something is different for every person. I see it as a web of&lt;br /&gt;
humanity; one broken strand weakens the entire structure. Suffering is&lt;br /&gt;
our world&#039;s broken strand today, and we must be willing to battle the&lt;br /&gt;
plethora of discomfort and instability that is mired in the process of&lt;br /&gt;
healing it. If we are unwilling to feel bad, sad, hurt, confused,&lt;br /&gt;
frustrated, or bitter we will never be able to evolve into hopeful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To&lt;br /&gt;
all this Passover, I encourage reflection on our connectedness as human&lt;br /&gt;
beings. This Passover, we must not &amp;quot;pass over&amp;quot; our connection, our part&lt;br /&gt;
of something greater, or others&#039; suffering.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Note: My apologies for the formatting errors; I cross-published on &lt;a href=&quot;http://notionsofidentity.blogspot.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Notions of Identity&lt;/a&gt; today, and the formats aren&#039;t working together.  Sorry!&lt;/p&gt;
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