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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I think there&#039;s worry about anything that might keep them from the polls. From what I&#039;ve read, the big deal about this was that they sent a lot of the forms to people who were already registered, so the worry was that these people would think they weren&#039;t. But if the worry was that African American votes for Obama would be diminished in North Carolina, that clearly doesn&#039;t seem to have been the case. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Kim&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogher.org/blog/kim-pearson&quot;&gt;BlogHer Contributing Editor&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;a href=&quot;http://professorkim.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;Professor Kim&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:47:40 -0500</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Does it make sense that a group dedicated to registering women voters would &lt;a href=&quot;http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/05/our-voting-rights-investigation-where.asp&quot;&gt;purposely seek to disenfranchise them and keep them from the polls?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That seems a bit Orwellian to me.  But that&#039;s the allegation that the group &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wvwv.org/&quot;&gt;Women&#039;s Voices, Women Vote&lt;/a&gt; found itself confronted with in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/art-levine/was-clinton-campaign-targ_b_100092.html&quot;&gt;weeks leading up to the recent North Carolina Democratic primary. &lt;/a&gt; For many months, Women&#039;s Voices, Women Vote has been working on a campaign called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwe-idsht28&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;20 Million Reasons&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt; -- an effort to register 20 million single women who are eligible to vote, but not registered, because they are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/04/15/unmarried-women-are-the-soccer-moms-of-the-2008-presidential-election.html&quot;&gt;seen as a key demographic to winning the 2008 presidential race.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But some bad planning and a loose connection to the Clintons have cast a bad light on what ought to be seen as a great effort.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In North Carolina, even after the voter registration deadline had passed to allow voters to cast ballots in the just-ended May 5 North Carolina primary, WVWV continued to  send out registration packets by mail and sposnored robo-calls to get more voters registered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Would you call that an innocent attempt to keep registering people so they could vote next time around or a purposeful attempt to confuse voters and give the upper hand to Hillary Clinton?  It depends on who you ask.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps in its zeal to register as many women as possible now, regardless of whether they would be able to vote in this round of presidential primaries, WVWV overlooked a law school basic -- even if you&#039;re not doing anything wrong, even the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appearance_of_impropriety&quot;&gt;appearance of impropriety&lt;/a&gt; can get you into trouble.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;According to an article in &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/voter-registrat.html&quot;&gt;Wired Magazine by Sarah Lai Stirland,&lt;/a&gt; WVWV spent the months preceding the North Carolina primary registering about 26,000 women in that state to vote, raising the question -- if Women&#039;s Voices, Women Vote spent all that time and effort to get them registered, why would WVWV be trying to discourage them to actually vote?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blackwomenvote.blogspot.com/2008/05/charges-leveled-of-voter-suppression-of.html&quot;&gt;But Arlene Fenton at Black Women Vote&lt;/a&gt; blog doesn&#039;t seem convinced that this was an innocuous slip-up:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;There were problems with timing and delivery of the messages. Lately, WVWV concentrated on registering Black unmarried females, by crafting messages that are tailor-made for our demographic, with some unfortunate results.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The brouhaha can be summed up by the NAACP&#039;s talking points:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Calls made to white women were as follows:  &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Hi. Just a reminder. Your voter registration form is in the mail to you. Your voice counts and your vote [indecipherable]. Sign it, date it and send it in. Thanks!&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the calls that went to African American women and men went something like this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Hello. This is Lamont Williams. In the next few days, you will receive a voter-registration packet in the mail. All you need to do is fill it out, sign it, date and return your application. &lt;span&gt;&lt;span color=&quot;#cc0000&quot;&gt;Then, you will be able to vote and make your voice heard.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Please  return your registration form when it arrives. Thank you.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If this is true, the disparity is definitely a cause for concern.  But it still doesn&#039;t make any sense to me that a group would make a massive effort to register tens of thousands of people, and then try to wave them off.  If the WVWV efforts were tailored to disenfranchise African-American voters, wouldn&#039;t it just not make the effort to register them in the first place?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5489&quot;&gt;Open Left blog quotes an E-mail it received from Becky Bond of Credo Mobile about it&#039;s past experiences with WVWV:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;[T]here is always a spike in voter registration around primaries AFTER the registration deadline has passed. [T]his is the best time to register voters.  [R]esearch confirms this.  [A]round primaries people are reminded that they need to register in time for the general. WVWV has done a lot of research in this area. [T]hey know when people are most likely to register. [U]nfortunately, what makes sense in registering the largest aggregate number of voters for the general election at the lowest cost is having a confusing effect in the N.C. primary which is hotly contested and very charged.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fabulouslyjinxed.com/2008/05/02/clintons-connection-to-voter-suppression/&quot;&gt;Jenny at Fabulously Jinxed&lt;/a&gt;, however, is not giving the Clinton campaign the benefit of the doubt:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, well, well. What’s this? Clinton’s people are behind Women’s Voices Women’s Vote? Could it be that it’s the Clinton Campaign that is adopting Bush election strategies?
&lt;p&gt;OF COURSE IT IS!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So who&#039;s right?  I&#039;ll let the North Carolina Attorney General&#039;s office work on that one.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/blogs/news/2008/05/nc_attorney_general_says_wvwv.html?ft=1&quot;&gt;They say the robo-calls were illegal because they didn&#039;t identify the sponsoring group,&lt;/a&gt; but haven&#039;t ruled on whether there was any intent to suppress voter turnout.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For me, the more important question is what efforts are going on that we know traditionally do suppress votes -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogher.com/may-i-see-your-voter-id-please&quot;&gt;like the recent ruling by the Supreme Court on requiring voter ID&#039;s at the polls&lt;/a&gt; or the failure of the government to do anything to address faulty voting systems since the&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117972593.html?categoryid=14&amp;amp;cs=1&quot;&gt; 2000 Bush/Gore debacle&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, why are so many of us so willing to see a conspiracy theory here?  Perhaps I&#039;m naive and Bill and Hillary Clinton were really steering a non-profit group for their own nefarious scheme to take back the White House.  But I don&#039;t think so.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_republican_war_on_voting&quot;&gt;Karl Rove on the other hand ....&lt;br /&gt;
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