BlogHer - 10 Things I Freaking Love About Sarah Palin - Comments

I don't think you get to

Arrietty — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:50:30 -0600

I don't think you get to decide when and if she runs. What if she runs in 2012 and not 2016?

I still think this whole 'in spite of her politics' thing is more than a little nuts. Would you vote for Ann Coulter?

Not only that, I think it undermines the whole credibility of the women's movement. This isn't what we need.

Vajayjay Voter 2016!

traceesioux — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:22:57 -0600

Yeah, really. In spite of her politics.

Palin lives in Alaska - it's in her consituents' best interest that she bring the oil economy there and it's in her people's best interest to allow them to hunt game there. She's doing her job as an elected official of Alaska. An environmentalist wouldn't get elected there. I know a ton of people who share her conservative religious views - and I defend her right to believe it - and I don't think Roe v. Wade is what gives women physical autonomy in today's world, 30 years ago, sure. Today? No.

Crazier than all of Pali's politics is that supposed feminists can't find a woman candidate to push forward to break the glass ceiling in 8 years. There's plenty of time. If Democrats can't get it done they're bad feminists OR apethic to women's empowerment or too damn negative and lazy to be supportive of women leaders. None of which are attributes I'm willing to excuse or overlook anymore.

I just saw in the paper who Obama is putting in his Inner Circle of advisors and there are only 2 women - out of 9 men. McCain would have appointed more to avoid looking like a chauvanist pig. That's not impressive.

Black men got the right to vote 100 years before they voted for their wives, daughters and sisters to have the same right. I am not about to go 100 years to manifest the dream of a woman president. Gloria Steneim had a dream too. Not just MLKJr. I don't care what politicians SAY - I care what they DO. Democrats can talk pro-woman, it remains to be seen whether Democrats can deliver. I'm pulling for em, but I'm a Vajayjay Voter come 2016 - even if it means Palin for President.

There are millions of adult women to choose from - many professional, brilliant, strong, inspiring. Pick one. Send her money. Be her fan. Propel her upward.

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You'd vote Palin "in spite of her politcs?" REALLY?

KeegsMom — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:36:54 -0600

Quote: I WILL vote for Sarah Palin in spite of her politics to break the glass ceiling in 2016.

I truly can't understand this kind of thinking. Um. What if her anti-choice, creationist/fundamentalist, pro-oil (let's see how AK handles the drop in oil prices!), anti-sex ed, anti-environment ideologies were still in place?

I'm surprised at how many people DO NOT know that the very lake she built her home on is seriously polluted now, due to runoff from nearby development and the relaxing of environmental policy to help businesses grow in AK... or about the million dollar sporting complex blunder that put Wasilla deep in debt ... and of course let's not forget her fight to lift protections for some endangered species.

By all acounts, she's not the smartest nor the most forward thinking individual, and she is certainly NOT a "sister" who should be breaking that glass celing if she wants to dictate how other women live their lives in terms of reproduction. Wrong.

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She Rocks!

linneyshvede — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:31:29 -0600

I enjoyed seeing her when she came to Virginia and would love to see her in a higher political office. I loved the way she inspired my daughter to become more interested in politics and to look at the possibilities in front of her. Of course I'm on board with Gov. Palin's conservative politics and am thrilled at the way she energized the Republican party in the election.

Will I vote for her in the next Presidential primaries? I don't know..depends on who she is running against. I still want the most qualifies conservative candidate to win.

Experience V. Inspiration - 8 years to mature

traceesioux — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:14:36 -0600

I don't think it has to be Hillary. In fact, I would prefer not - evidently she doesn't have the support of Democratic women.

If this election taught us anything it's the Experience isn't nearly as important as Inspiration and Marketing - otherwise we'd be looking at Madam President-Elect Hillary Clinton right now instead of President-Elect Barack Obama.

If Sarah Palin has taught us anything it's that the world is a mysterious place and conservatives like powerful women as much as liberals. And conservatives are capable of getting behind a working mother. Are Democratic women able to do that? I wonder.

Which means that for the next 8 years we have time to support The White House Project and Emily's List and get some awe-inspiriing, feiry, powerful and women in the Presidential Pool. Senators, Congresswomen, Governors, etc are in the pool. Businesswomen are in the pool.

Nancy Pelosi, we just elected 4 new women through Emily's List. The trick is to be supportive and build on thier initial success and create positive buzz.

If Arnold Swartzenegar can be Gov of California, I don't see why we can't elect Oprah in 8 years.

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why i really wanted sarah palin to win...

babyhavinbabies — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:32:23 -0600

i am not american so i did not vote for anyone. i am merely a canadian living in this wonderful country as a permanent resident. hopefully i will get to vote at the next election. and i will vote for sarah palin so long as tina fey is out there doing her sarah palin impersonation. maybe we should just get tina fey to run for office...

Do you see any women in the Democratic Party

Lisse — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:17:32 -0600

who might bring the energy required and be tough enough to handle the Republican Mean Machine?

If Hillary doesn't do it, and at this point, I don't think she will, who else is there?

-Lisse

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Not 2012, reelect Obama

traceesioux — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:14:09 -0600

No, I like Obama and I'm going to do everything I can to see him succeed and get reelected in 2012. We need 1 president over the next 8 years because it takes time to impliment plans and change legiislation. Four years is a highly optimistic timeframe to expect any one president to turn things around.

But, during that 8 years we need to groom, propel forward and build momentum around the Democratic women who we want to take his place. And for me, being the pro-woman party - if that is what the Democratic Party wants to be anymore - means we actually put a woman in the office. There IS a woman out there who can be "good enough" and we need to really focus on helping her get there instead of tearing her down before she has a shot (I wasn't too thrilled with women's support or lack thereof with Hillary frankly). Let's leave the dirty work to the Republicans and Unify around the goal of a Madam President.

If the Democratic party doesn't want to make a female president a priority and focus during Obama's campaign, then I guess I'm a swing voter. A vocal one with a pen that's mightier than the sword.

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Probably 2012

Lisse — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:17:45 -0600

But Mitt Romney will come back and push her off the stage the way he pushed Jane Swift.

I really would like this woman's 15 minutes to be up already. She makes us all look bad.

-Lisse

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The woman on the ballot

Arrietty — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:04:34 -0600

I have my doubts that Palin will be on the ballot. Even if she ran, I doubt she would survive the primaries. But that's a whole other question.

Curious about one thing. You said you would vote for her in 2016 once Obama's had time to implement his agenda and she's matured politically. Would you vote for her in 2012?

If she runs, wouldn't she be likely to run in 2012?

Find The ONE propel her upward

traceesioux — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:32:03 -0600

If you don't want Palin then find the one you like and push her forward, propel her upward and try not to rip her to shreds picking apart her every flaw.

Too much like your mother?

Too much like yourself?

Too much like your aunt or your 4th grade teacher or the cheerleader who was mean to you in high school?

Had sex before marriage? Didn't have sex before marriage?

Has the wrong hair or wears the wrong color of skirt that's too short or too long?

Go to therapy and get over it.

Find Ms. Perfect, The ONE, you're willing to support in 2016 and get behind her. It will take 8 years to propel her forward and build her momentum. I'm voting for the woman that's on the ballot - "sexist" or not. Give me a better alternative that Democratic women CHOOSE not to hypercriticize and pick apart like it's lunch time at Junior High. I dare you.

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Disagreers

Arrietty — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:28:08 -0600

@HeidiChick I wouldn't feel the need to go to a blog post supporting Sarah Palin to leave a counter comment. There are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of such blog posts. But I do feel the need to challenge the notion that voting for her just because she's a woman is in any way sensible or a feminist / pro-woman thing to do. If you like her for other reasons, that's fine.

Definitions of sexism, racism etc

Arrietty — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:24:49 -0600

@traceesioux I'm sorry if I ruffled feathers by calling this sexism. I believe that sexism is the belief that one gender is inherently superior to another. I don't know whether you hold that belief or not so I don't want to accuse you, the person, of sexism. However, a statement that you would vote for someone solely on the basis that she's a woman does smack a little of what i regard as sexism. I'm questioning that statement rather than your entire belief system, of which I obviously have little knowledge.

Based on your statement you either:

a) believe that she would do a better job than any man simply because she's a woman. If that's the case, I believe that to be a sexist belief.

or b)You don't believe that she would do a better job but you don't care about that because the principle is more important than the results. If that's the case, it's not sexism but it does seem to be a little cavalier and blinkered by ideology.

@wineplz Re: "On a related note, I actually KNOW people who voted for our current president-elect STRICTLY ON HIS SKIN COLOR instead of on his merits. Yet that is acceptable and was encouraged and somehow isn't considered racist/discrimatory."

Actually, I disagree. I think voting for Obama on the basis of race IS racist. However, I don't know anyone who did that. I know plenty of people who think it's a good thing that the US finally has a black (or strictly speaking, non-white) president but that's not why they voted for him. Everyone I've spoken to, on both sides of the fence, made their decision based on policy.

I fully support initiatives like Emily's List but I don't buy the argument that women will automatically change the way we are governed. There have been female political leaders in Europe - Thatcher in the UK, Merkel in Germany and so on - without any significant changes to the system.

@ everyone

I think it's important that our elected representatives represent the population at large. So it's important to ensure there are female senators, congresswomen, female judges and so on. It doesn't mean that gender should in any way be the deciding factor when there are so many other important criteria, such as competence, intelligence, ethical integrity, policy.

I think Hillary was a good candidate. Unfortunately for those of us who want to see a woman president, this particular year Obama was better. It's not all bad though - I like what he stand for and have every confidence that he will be a great president and that's the most important thing to me. But Hillary was totally a better candidate than, say, Kerry. She just didn't happen to be running against Kerry.

I don't hate Sarah Palin and I agree that she copped a lot of sexist flak during the campaign and coped with it well. However, I would not want her as president of the United States. To me the bottom line is: WE DON'T NEED A FEMALE DUBYA!

I love Sarah too : )

HeidiChick — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:15:23 -0600

Thanks for the post - -I love her too.

Interesting that posts like this draw more 'disagree-ers' (I agree, there are a few haters, but most are disagree-ers) to the comments section. I never felt the need to go to a blog talking about some political figure I disagree with and write how I feel differently..... I think I must be the only one though!! : )

George Bush in a Skirt

Lisse — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:51:45 -0600

Sarah Palin has all the qualities that so disturbed me about George Bush:

Guided, and frankly, blinded by religious principle and often unwilling to acknowledge game -changing facts.

Doesn't value science.

Ignorant of history and geography and not understanding the problem with that.

In the pocket of the oil companies.

Determined to tear down the wall between Church and State.

Unclear on the difference between management and leadership.

A poor communicator. Showing the FOX propensity to repeat inanities over and over again thinking that will make them true.

There's a debate going around as to whether we saw the "real" Sarah Palin or whether she was "forced" to play the pit bull. Given her record, and some of her personal decisions, I'm inclined to believe that it is the latter.

Regardless, that some would view yet another anti-intellectual as the future of their party is incomprehensible to me.

Women should be demanding better.

Lisse

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10 Things I Freaking Love About Sarah Palin

traceesioux — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:47:53 -0600

Orginally published on Blog Fabulous.

1. She reminds me of my mother.

2. She kind of reminds me of my mother-in-law.

3. She reminds me of myself, actually.

4. She’s ballsy. She stood up to all the mean girls who trashed her and the perverts who made pornography of her and the media who mocked her. She did it with grace, complete sentences (unlike our current resident moron) and with HUMOR and a big wide smile on her face and 4 kids in tow.

5. She refuses to stay in the box society made for her. In fact, she pretends there is no box.

6. She believes in God and she believes God has a plan for HER. So to I.

7. Seriously, she breast fed her baby in the limo and green rooms before those speeches. Let me repeat - she breast fed her baby on the campaign trail. That’s cool. That’s freaking amazing.

8. She realized kids are portable and brought them
with her to campaign instead of refusing a once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity to pursue her dreams “because she had kids.”

9. She’s ambitious.

10. She’s beautiful AND smart. Yes, world, women can be pretty AND smart. We don’t have to pick one.

In fact, the ONLY thing I don’t like about Sarah Palin is her politics this year.

In 8 years she’ll be more mature and more experienced and qualified-enough if she can keep her nose clean in Alaska.

Barack Obama is the LAST man I will vote for before a woman serves as President of the United States.

So some Democratic women better step up to the plate and groom themselves for a solid run in 8 years. Hear that Emily’s List and The White House Project? It’s Sarah Palin if
you can’t train a female superstar to step up to the plate and win in 8
years. I’ll even send you money and help you groom her, but I’m not
voting for another pro-woman MAN.

I WILL vote for Sarah Palin in spite of her politics to break the glass ceiling in 2016.

In fact, the way I figure it - if Barack Obama does what he says he’s going to do, then I will be satisfied with my equal pay, universal healthcare, family medical leave insurance, and solid standing in the Supreme Court, and will have healed the economy by using cash to pay as we go.

The Republican Party will have reinvented themselves and brought in some young blood like Sarah Palin and kicked out the crazies who are against birth control or I’ll be menopausal so it won’t be that important to me.

Obama will have healed the racial divide and sexism will be the final social frontier
(Ok there will still be homophobia, but it too will be less pronounced
in 8 years) and I’m sorry people, I don’t give a crap how much you
personally hate her, feel offended by her, feel jealous of her, feel
defensive by her outward morality - I NEED to see a woman in the
highest office of that land.

More importantly MEN need to see it so we can earn their damned respect. My children need to see it, both my son and my daughter.

If that woman is Sarah Palin, well, she’ll be highly entertaining to
watch for 8 years. We might learn a few useful tricks from her about
how to have it all. I’ll be watching her.

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