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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sticking with cast iron for now.  Once your pan is well-seasoned nothing can beat it.  Jumping on board the great new technology is what got us into this mess.  I don&#039;t want to repeat that mistake. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;~ Amber&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:51:36 -0600</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>AmberS</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;As a long time bird owner, we knew years ago how dangerous and toxic TEFLON, no stick is. As Birds were dropping dead from frying  up some thing in the kitchen or using the brand new stove, coffee pot, microwave and so on. The teflon is not just in these NO stick pans. Its everywhere. And bird ownes across the world were coming together in groups wondering what killed their parrots? But as a small group, mainstream rarely took notice. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The sad thing is that people would buy it, use it, their beloved pet parrot drops dead, immediately,  and then teflon companys such as Dupont would not claim ownership to the fact this stuff is dangerous. If the birds are dieing its because of the noxious fumes their little lungs can&#039;t handle. Just like the canary in the coal mines. A forewarning to us.  I&#039;m glad people in the main stream are taking notice now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sorry to say i don&#039;t believe any thing NEW coming into the market is going to be any healthier. Was it created in a labratory? for me? thats the answer. NO. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;jojo&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;twitter: goodnesgracious &lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:35:01 -0600</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>jojom</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Teflon doesn’t have any enviro-allies these days, since news broke&lt;br /&gt;
about the nonstick material’s potential health risks. Why not? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ewg.org/reports/toxicteflon&quot;&gt;Environmental Working Group warns consumers&lt;/a&gt; that Teflon offgases toxic particulates at 446°F according to DuPont studies — and it only gets worse from there:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;At 680°F Teflon pans release at least six toxic gases,&lt;br /&gt;
including two carcinogens, two global pollutants, and MFA, a chemical&lt;br /&gt;
lethal to humans at low doses. At temperatures that DuPont scientists&lt;br /&gt;
claim are reached on stovetop drip pans (1000°F), non-stick coatings&lt;br /&gt;
break down to a chemical warfare agent known as PFIB, and a chemical&lt;br /&gt;
analog of the WWII nerve gas phosgene.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Scarily, a university food professor found that a Teflon pan reached&lt;br /&gt;
721°F on a conventional, electric stovetop burner in just 3 minutes and&lt;br /&gt;
20 seconds! Since this toxic news made headlines, Dupont’s agreed to&lt;br /&gt;
pay a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epa.gov/compliance/resources/cases/civil/tsca/dupont121405.html&quot;&gt;$10.25 million settlement to the U.S. EPA&lt;/a&gt; and to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ewg.org/node/21303&quot;&gt;virtually eliminate perfluorinated chemicals&lt;/a&gt; — the stuff used to make Teflon — by 2015 (via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2008/10/08/index.html?source=rss&quot;&gt;grist&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/3121498924_a7b3b9a5c0.jpg?v=0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Teflon’s downfall, of course, meant a whole new bunch of nonstick&lt;br /&gt;
pots and pans came clanging into the green kitchen marketplace, all&lt;br /&gt;
claiming that they were as unsticky as Teflon but without the nasty&lt;br /&gt;
enviro-health effects. One of the most talked-about option’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.green-pan.com/dev/ae/html/products.html&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;GreenPan&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, which uses a nonstick coating called Thermolon that’s totally free of perfluorooctanoic acid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/3121533156_590fc5aaf2_m.jpg&quot; /&gt;But is Thermolon safe? The jury’s still out. Plenty’s Jessica A. Knoblauch says &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.plentymag.com/ask/2008/09/greenpan.php&quot;&gt;GreenPan’s claims pan out — with caveats&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
The upside, according to her, is that GreenPan does indeed avoid a lot&lt;br /&gt;
of the nastiness of Teflon pans. The downside, however, is that&lt;br /&gt;
GreenPan makes use of nanotechnology and silicone, both of which could&lt;br /&gt;
pose safety and health risks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The keyword here is “could” — as in no one really knows yet because&lt;br /&gt;
Thermolon’s such a brand spanking new thing — and not all the info&lt;br /&gt;
about it has been made available by the company making it.&lt;br /&gt;
Environmental Working Group’s scientist Rebecca Sutton, for example,&lt;br /&gt;
said she’d like to see GreenPan make more of its data public: “We’d&lt;br /&gt;
like to see all the data they provided to FDA, as well as FDA’s&lt;br /&gt;
assessments of the product, required for its approval as a food contact&lt;br /&gt;
substance.” A discussion of the chemistry of breakdown products would&lt;br /&gt;
help too, Rebecca says.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is the average consumer satisfied with GreenPan’s safety claims? Some, like &lt;a href=&quot;http://lauriliaw.blogspot.com/2008/09/as-i-mentioned-before-in-my-previous.html&quot;&gt;Lauri  of LauriLiau &lt;/a&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;
are taking a wait-and-see approach. “I’m not saying Thermolon is&lt;br /&gt;
dangerous,” she says, but notes that the stuff’s just been invented.&lt;br /&gt;
“We really do not know what material is used in Thermolon.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Others have already started cooking. &lt;a href=&quot;http://eatplaylove.blogspot.com/2008/06/tuesday-tips-3-hidden-household-toxins.html&quot;&gt;EatPlayLove says her GreenPan’s been working fabulously&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bostonmamas.com/2008/05/greenpan.html&quot;&gt;The Boston Mamas say they’ve “enjoyed” their GreenPan frypan&lt;/a&gt;, which cooked scrambled eggs to  “a light, fluffy, and thankfully flake-free perfection.” Even green living expert &lt;a href=&quot;http://dannyseo.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/10/green-pan-updat.html&quot;&gt;Danny Seo’s been cooking with GreenPan&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Martha Stewart and Rachel Ray are already selling GreenPans under&lt;br /&gt;
their names, so GreenPan products are available through a number of&lt;br /&gt;
retailers, ranging from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=286832&amp;amp;PartnerID=FROOGLE&amp;amp;BannerID=PD677&quot;&gt;Macy&lt;/a&gt;’s to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1229725095/ref=sr_nr_i_0?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;rs=&amp;amp;keywords=thermolon&amp;amp;rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Athermolon%2Ci%3Agarden&quot;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
For those not ready to buy into GreenPan, stick to glass or cast iron&lt;br /&gt;
cookware — tried and true eco-friendly options that won’t keep you up&lt;br /&gt;
wondering if your organic eggs are causing environmental damage.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Top image via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ewg.org/files/infographic_thermometer.pdf&quot;&gt;ewg.org&lt;/a&gt; (PDF); photo of Martha Stewart Collection GreenPan via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=286832&amp;amp;PartnerID=FROOGLE&amp;amp;BannerID=PD677&quot;&gt;Macys.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BlogHer Contributing Editor Siel also blogs at &lt;a href=&quot;http://greenlagirl.com&quot;&gt;greenLAgirl.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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