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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Congratulations to Marilyn French, that she made so much of a difference to so many.  I think, other that self-expression, that&#039;s what we all strive for when we write. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;~ &lt;a href=&quot;http://billcammack.com/&quot; title=&quot;Bill Cammack&quot;&gt;Bill&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I blog at &lt;a href=&quot;http://billcammack.com/&quot; title=&quot;Bill Cammack&quot;&gt;billcammack.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:22:47 -0500</pubDate>
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 <title>I agree with Lovebabz - total badd ass</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I had no idea that she died until TW was reading BlogHer and saw this post. No freaking idea. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This also reminds me that I don&#039;t believe I&#039;ve ever suggested her work to Michelle, my 19 year old. Must send her a book.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;~Denise&lt;br /&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:41:08 -0500</pubDate>
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 <title>Marilyn French AN ORIGINAL BADD ASS...</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;What I got from the divine Ms. French is I got to believe I am equal.  I got to be the one to believe it first. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Be loving &amp;amp; Be in LOVE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://lovebabz.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;http://lovebabz.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:59:08 -0500</pubDate>
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 <title>Ohhhh :(</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t believe I&#039;ve been reading &amp;amp; browsing for over an hour and just now I learn of Marilyn French&#039;s death.  I&#039;d chalk that up to that media bias/all run by men/grr grr grr thing, but I&#039;d rather just say thank you and may she be of blessed memory. What a loss. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jill&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com&quot;&gt; Writes Like She Talks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:51:41 -0500</pubDate>
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 <title>You said it</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;This statement&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;The more we claim our rightful places as equals with valid lives and interesting perspectives, the better.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;speaks volumes. Great post!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:23:07 -0500</pubDate>
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 <title>RIP, Marilyn French: Historian, Author, &quot;Man-Hater&quot;</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Marilyn French, groundbreaking author and historian, died of heart failure on May 3, 2009, at the age of 79.  Her first book, &lt;i&gt;The Women&#039;s Room&lt;/i&gt;, came out in 1977 and sold 20 million copies 24 languages.  She inspired millions of women to stand up for themselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This extraordinary woman began her life on a traditional path.  French got married in her early twenties, supported her husband&#039;s career, and raised children as she put herself through college and graduate school at Hofstra University.  After her divorce in 1967, French received a fellowship to attend Harvard, where she completed a doctorate in literature.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Although divorcing her husband scandalized her mother, who felt that she shouldn&#039;t leave her marriage as long as her husband &quot;didn&#039;t beat me or gamble or drink,&quot; French did not consider herself a radical until 1971, when she read &lt;i&gt;Sexual Politics&lt;/i&gt; by Kate Millett.  That same year, French&#039;s 18 year old daughter was raped and the district attorney did not want to prosecute the case.  French insisted on going to trial, and the man was convicted.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Her experiences with marriage and justice clearly influenced her outlook on gender relations.  Elaine Woo wrote in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-marilyn-french5-2009may05,0,7962226.story&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Los Angeles Times&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
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The novel&#039;s most-quoted line -- &quot;All men are rapists, and that&#039;s all they are,&quot; spoken by the protagonist after the near-rape of her daughter -- was often erroneously attributed to French herself, giving critics what they thought was proof of the author&#039;s man-hating rage. The accusation infuriated French. &quot;What I am opposed to,&quot; she told the London Times a few years ago, &quot;is the notion that men are superior to me.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Although she said the novel was not autobiographical, her protagonist&#039;s trajectory mirrored her own. There was, she said, &quot;nothing in [it] I&#039;ve not felt.&quot;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is an understatement that &lt;i&gt;The Women&#039;s Room&lt;/i&gt; impacted many women.  Rhea at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thegeminiweb.com/babyboomer/?p=2485&quot;&gt;The Boomer Chronicles&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;/p&gt;
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I remember reading The Women’s Room by Marilyn French in the late 1970s, in the midst of my burgeoning feminist days. Everyone I knew was reading it, and discussing it. In a word, The Women’s Room blew us away. I am not sure what it would be like to read it today — would it hold up after all these years? — but I know the impact French’s work had on me then. Not only the feminist content of her work, but the writing. I dreamed of having her writing talent. And I regarded her as a genius.
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&lt;p&gt;Alida Brill wrote at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/may/08/marilyn-french-feminism-books&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Guardian&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
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She believed in the power of words to change the world, to make it a better place for girls and women. She did not hate men, despite all the incendiary language that became attached to her decades earlier and appear in her obituaries now. She didn&#039;t much care about those who tried to relegate her to a slagheap of radical man-haters. Responding to that would waste time – valuable writer&#039;s time...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All the words Marilyn wrote and published across more than three decades matter. They matter tremendously. In 1977, exactly a decade after I graduated from high school, I walked into Marilyn&#039;s The Women&#039;s Room, and when I walked out I was a different person. My close friends and I tore through it, refused to loan our copies and used it as a bible for our own liberation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Her main characters were not our peers – they were closer to the ages of our mothers than to us – but we understood the message. It was that as women we were entitled to be in charge of our own lives, whatever it takes to get there and however difficult patriarchy makes it. Women don&#039;t have to settle for less than an equal share in everything from work, to satisfaction in love and loyalty in friendships.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was already a feminist when I encountered the novel. When I closed the book I was a woman no longer willing to hide behind my youth or use beauty as an excuse for not getting the job done.
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&lt;p&gt;While &lt;a href=&quot;http://lisatuttle.livejournal.com/11977.html&quot;&gt;Lisa Tuttle&lt;/a&gt; didn&#039;t think &lt;i&gt;The Women&#039;s Room&lt;/i&gt; was a good book, she still respects it&#039;s place and what it wrought:&lt;/p&gt;
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The Today Programme had invited Sarah Dunant and Christina Odone to discuss the significance of French&#039;s most famous book, &lt;i&gt;The Women&#039;s Room&lt;/i&gt;.  I was slightly apprehensive, expecting a typical &amp;amp; pointless argument about feminism between two women with differing politics, but was very pleasantly surprised by how sane and affirmative the comments were ... at one point the presenter (John Humphries? I can&#039;t remember) sort-of-jokingly complained that he wasn&#039;t getting a word in edgewise...and then swiftly tried to turn that into a compliment -- how rare and pleasant it was, etc.  The two women burst into laughter, and then very politely and attentively paused [astonishing how visual radio can seem sometimes!] for him to say something.  He stumbled his way towards a question. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;...listening to them was heartening -- too often these discussions are nothing more than an excuse for a sort of faux-debate, neither side really listening to each other as they trot out their lines and try to talk over each other and have to be stopped by the host so the other one gets equal time. And that laughter... the laughter of women together.... it lifted my heart...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for The Women&#039;s Room  (getting back to Marilyn French), I recall that when I read it, probably not too long after it came out in 1977, I was disappointed.  It struck me as out-dated, a blast from the past, and of little relevance to me, personally... the fact that it became such a big best-seller surprised me -- obviously, it affected many women much more deeply.  I know that in Britain the book was published with the shout-line &quot;This Book Will Change Your Life!&quot;  And a recent survey of women readers confirmed that many of them felt that it truly had.
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&lt;p&gt;Of course, for every woman whose life was changed by reading &lt;i&gt;The Women&#039;s Room&lt;/i&gt;, the novel is limited to the viewpoint of white, affluent women.  (There&#039;s a great post by Cath Elliot at &lt;a href=&quot;http://toomuchtosayformyself.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/thank-you-marilyn-french/&quot;&gt;Too Much to Say for Myself&lt;/a&gt; that starts to address that issue.)  That limitation must be acknowledged, but this was essentially French&#039;s story and it should not be denigrated because it can&#039;t represent all women.  French never claimed she was speaking for every woman, although she wanted all women to have more power in their lives.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;French went on to write several works of history and feminist nonfiction, as well as other novels.  Whether we agree with French&#039;s ideas or not, I suspect that she&#039;d be delighted to hear the voices of other women telling their stories, inspiring other girls and women to speak up for themselves and fight for their rights.  One of her main concerns was that women&#039;s history was not being recorded and told.  The more we claim our rightful places as equals with valid lives and interesting perspectives, the better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Suzanne also blogs at &lt;a href=&quot;http://cussandotherrants.com&quot;&gt;Campaign for Unshaved Snatch (CUSS) &amp;amp; Other Rants&lt;/a&gt;.  Her first book, &lt;a href=&quot;http://offthebeatensubwaytrack.com&quot;&gt;Off the Beaten (Subway) Track&lt;/a&gt;, is about exploring New York City, and will be available at the BlogHer conference.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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