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Move over Gena

Southerngirl — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:47:13 -0500

I am just not getting this whole mess I keep hearing from both sides. Bandwagon? If there is one it is broken down and missing a few wheels. You know sometimes the things that make the most sense can be said so simply. I asked an older Lady who she was voting for, She said to me that there was no way in HELL that she would hand her counry and future over to a person who graduated at the bottom of his class running with a person who has a journalism degree. She said the mess we let W get us into need some smarts to get out of.

Sadly I do not think the next president will have 8 years in office because there is no way we will get out of this crap in the next 4. And guess who we will blame next time around?

Michelle

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How True, How True

Leucantha — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:04:08 -0500

In some ways I feel that way about both parties, everything is topsy turvy and don't you dare say you don't agree on this or that. Geez! Great post.

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Oh, dear lord, woman

shanbrentris — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:44:42 -0500

It makes me look like a fool when I stand up and cheer in my own living room, for no one else to hear.

This? Brilliant. Dead on. Thank you for writing it.

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Oh, Jane, say it ain't so!

Kathy Sena — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:40:23 -0500

Oh, Jane, say it ain't so! This is so disheartening to read. It's good to hear from someone who is there and is telling it like it is. Please keep speaking up.

But please don't leave the Democratic party. Please stay and try to set it straight!

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Patience

Maria Niles — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:35:14 -0500

Thanks but I wouldn't sign the petition or push to get him out.

There's no advantage to stripping him of seniority now. He helps maintain the razor slim Dem majority in the Senate. And, other than defense issues and his boneheaded McCain support, he votes Democratic.

He might choose to join the Republicans after November but even if he doesn't Democrats can remove his seniority privileges and he can then decide which party to caucus with. Democrats will be in a position to be magnanimous and allow him to continue hanging with them (which is probably the smart choice) or he can take up with the Republicans but that might be the final straw and cost him his seat with CT voters. He'll get his karmic political reward no matter what in November.

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Lieberman's Damage to Democratic Win

Terrace — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:09:35 -0500

I have to agree with you Marie. I do not know why Lieberman just does not join the Republicans - he belongs with them and 51,000 signatures on a petition indicate there are many that agree- Joe should go.

Lieberman is not a party member

Maria Niles — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:11:43 -0500

Lieberman is now an Independent not a Democrat so when the majority party allows him to vote with them and benefit with committee chairmanships and then he actively campaigns against the party? Yes, they can kick him out of bed for eating crackers.

Come November after Dems pick up 5-6 Senate seats Lieberman will be stripped naked.

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You do, but I don't

Denise — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:57:59 -0500

And I'm a registered Democrat. :-)

Do you really want a party that can tell party members what to say, what to think, and who to support?

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Wonderful news!

Maria Niles — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:31:23 -0500

I'm glad to hear you're coming to the conference and I look forward to seeing you again, as well. And I look forward to hearing more of your voice here - I am a fan of authentic and passionate!

Between a Rock and A Hard Place

Gena Haskett — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:25:06 -0500

My empathic side and my logical side are hugging each other for dear life. They are scared out of their mind. There is no question this country is seeking new united leadership. We are in a deep, troubling situation.

There is almost a psychic need for some kind of national healing or reconciliation. That is a beautiful thing but that has nothing to do with electing a president.

I have said this before and I will say it again. Who is the best person for the job of President? Not the most inspirational, not the most politically savvy and not because the person will be the "first."

But looking for the best person for the job is getting tangled by threads of race, of gender of the need to be a part of the future of the country. I don't want to disrespect anyones heartfelt or intellectual working out opinion about why they do or do not want to support a candidate. Not my job, no thank you.

I'm standing between a rock and a hard place waiting for folks to understand that when Dubya gets on the plane to return to private life the next president is going to be handed a sack of shit of trouble that will have us shasking.

I'm almost asking for a kind of political detachment. How you want to do it is fine, Tao, Zen, I don't care how you do it. But be clear and tell me and the others to the best of your ability why this person is going to effective in handling a changing American economy, international disdain and shortages in food, energy and natural resources.

Let me share the other reason for the quivers. We are starting to sound like TV pundits.

Gena - Out On The Stoop

Thanks, Maria. I know I

ByJane — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:18:29 -0500

Thanks, Maria. I know I can phrase things in forceful ways; I'm just not always aware that I'm doing it. I used to try to corral myself, but that seems so dishonest to me. So I'm saying stuff, and I'm owning it. Basically I just want everyone to like me--Virginia Woolf's angel is indeed on my shoulder!

I don't at all consider that there are no valid reasons for supporting Obama. Too many of the people I respect and love are firmly in his camp for me to even think that way. And I've had six weeks and two days to revisit my stance. I still don't support him, but I see now that my reasons for not doing so are purely emotional. Isn't that what a gut response is? I decided back then that it was too hot in the kitchen for me, obviously, so I should stay out.

I came across your comment today when--I signed up for BlogHer '08. I wasn't going to go. I felt hurt and mad and sad and rejected. But I can't not go. This has been a watershed year for me, and I'm trying my hardest to be authentic to me and no one else in my blog. Somehow that's related to going to BlogHer '08 with no goals other than...just to go. I'm looking forward to see you there!

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I'm very sorry, Jane

Maria Niles — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:37:25 -0500

I apologize if I was nasty or that I hurt or offended you. That was absolutely not my intention and I regret if anything I said kept you away from BlogHer because I value your voice and opinion.

I did feel that the tone of your post did not consider that women could have valid reasons for supporting Obama. That is how it felt to me as an Obama supporter as if it were an attack and I reacted as such.

As I've said to you before I truly hope you will participate at BlogHer (and I'll refrain from commenting in the future). And I sincerely would like to read a post about your support for Clinton. Even though I am supporting her opponent I believe that there are lots of positive reasons why others support her and I'd just like to read more about why anyone is pro-candidate rather than anti-opponent.

Jesus, Maria, I just now

ByJane — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:52:30 -0500

Jesus, Maria, I just now read your comment, and wow! I keep reading my posts and nowhere do I get why you think I'm said any of this:

"When you exhort people who support Obama to put aside their hearts and use their heads to me that is a pretty clear indication that you think we are emotional wimps who somehow aren't using their brains or are too stupid to do so. I absolutely respect your right to your perspective and your reasons for why you will not vote for Obama. What I don't appreciate is being told why I am hysterical wreck for doing so."

In fact, the reason I haven't been back to BlogHer in six weeks and two days is because I felt absolutely jumped on for stating my opinion. And that was BEFORE I read your response today! I've pretty much begged off all forays into this political year because there is such a tone of nastiness about people's responses.

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Absolutely indicated

Maria Niles — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:42:38 -0600

When you exhort people who support Obama to put aside their hearts and use their heads to me that is a pretty clear indication that you think we are emotional wimps who somehow aren't using their brains or are too stupid to do so. I absolutely respect your right to your perspective and your reasons for why you will not vote for Obama. What I don't appreciate is being told why I am hysterical wreck for doing so.

Generally, I'm tired of hearing all the reasons why we shouldn't vote for one candidate or another or in any way act out of fear (e.g. Clinton will keep us safe). I would love to hear the positive, proactive ways in which we can act.

I hope you will do the pro-Clinton post and I look forward to reading it.

I'm still embarrassed by that screed

fabooj — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:51:21 -0600

I saw Morgan's piece yesterday and I was kind of ashamed to be female after reading that. There was no logic, no facts in that piece. Pure emotions rooted in being the victim. I understand that some people wallow in that space, but it was a really sad endorsement. I do find it sad that someone is voting for someone because of gender.

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