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I totally agree

theprisonerswife — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:16:28 -0500

I wholeheartedly believe that if we mixed in more opportunities for our (minority) students to learn of themselves and their history, they would see and appreciate the opportunities that they have now. There is nothing like seeing yourself ina text & reading about and studying people that look like you. It fills you with PRIDE.

Although I grew up in South Central LA, I never attended public schools. While this helped to prepare me for the rigor of higher ed, it did little to affirm me as a young black girl. In my classes I was always one of the few black faces & when I would get home from school, other kids would say I acted "white" because I was smart. It's a catch 22.

I feel as though we've moved away from putting our emphasis on education. Many of my students don't care if they get an A or F & their parents don't seem to set many boundaries for them, nor reward them for the GOOD things. Instead they shower them with meaningless things like Sidekicks & Sneakers just because. I am only 27, but many of my students' parents are my age & I teach middle school. Do the math.

Until we can make learning be as COOL as hustlin', our kids will continue to choose fast money over delayed gratification. The idea of teaching entrepreneurship in k-12 is WONDERFUL. it will show kids that school & learning is not just some abstract concept that only applies between the hours of 8 and 3, but is a valuable tool they can use to be as successful as their favorite rappers & ball players.

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Gimme Love: http://theprisonerswife.blogspot.com

Education, absolutely

Kim Pearson — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:06:26 -0500

I'm glad to have your thoughts on this, especially since I know from your blog that you fight the good fight in the classroom every day. I am starting to think that, particularly in impoverished communities, we need to upend the whole curriculum. Mix John Dewey, James Comer, and Booker T. Washington with Du Bois' sympathetic touch.

We know that many kids have absorbed materialism as a fundamental value. What if we organized secondary schools around entrepreneurship, instead of making business courses a secondary track, why not integrate them into the academic curriculum and let students raise actual money? Part of it could go into accounts for them and part of it could go to the school. In the context of having to run their businesses, they would have to demonstrate mastery of some core academic subjects, and others could be brought in as part of the constructivist framework. An intelligent use of social media for communications can provide tools for individualized instruction (perhaps using distributed learning, if needed) in a secure environment.

In this way, perhaps students can become engaged with learning again, and begin to see ways in which it can actually help them improve their lives.

Kim
BlogHer Contributing Editor|Professor Kim|

educate, not incarcerate

theprisonerswife — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:33:02 -0500

interesting.

if we spent as much on public k-16 education as we do on prisons, then that would prevent lots of young people from getting locked up. we have far too many reactionary programs & not enough programs to prevent people from going to prison in the first place.

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Gimme Love: http://theprisonerswife.blogspot.com

Journos announce the Chauncey Bailey Project

Kim Pearson — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:12:46 -0500

A coalition of Bay area journalists have vowed to continue Chauncey Bailey's reporting project:
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_con...

BlogHer Contributing Editor|Professor Kim|

One Other Woman Blogged It!

jj ross — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:58:38 -0500

Hi - thanks to seeing your post this morning, I've blogged this story along with two other school threat stories in the news:
"School's Out -- of Control"

About Dave Agema

LiberalSpirit — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:14:11 -0500

Rep. Agema, a Republican from the most Republican part of Michigan, has also co-sponsored my personal favorite bill so far this session: Requiring anyone convicted of sodomy with an animal to be place on the sexual offenders registry. We've got a $1 billion budget deficit, these are the things that rocket to the top of the list.

But more to the point: I'm not buying the Oregon argument, and it has nothing to do with whether that teacher's husband is abusive and she needs protection. First and foremost, a teacher who believes her husband is disturbed enough to be capable of attacking her in the classroom should be removed from the classroom. No matter what else our schools do, they should first protect children from harm. Putting a gun in a classroom doesn't protect students, it endangers them. Period.

A woman experiencing domestic violence should have every right to hold down a job, without interference. At the same time, if they know their husbands or boyfriends are violent and could possibly attack, they ought to focus on resolving those personal issues, without intentionally putting the lives of others in danger.

Guns in schools?

Judith in Umbria — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:13:11 -0500

Madness! Why would anyone imagine that a shoot-out is an appropriate classroom lesson? If you wish to avoid dangerous characters coming into schools and threatening anyone within them, then close up the school.

If kids are in danger of being threatened by weapon wielding ex-husbands, then restrain the ex in some way. Remove the threatened teacher to another job. Investigate to find out whether the threat is real or imagined and act on that. If it is imagined, get the teacher some counseling and don't let her teach until it's over. I frankly don't think someone who is that afraid belongs in a classroom.

It's time for the US to stop believing that the answer to weapons is more weapons. Boot Hill was a long time ago. When I sent my kid off to school, the last thing on earth I wanted her to learn was what it looks like to see someone killed. My memory of it is everlasting, and I was 20 years old!

http://www.judithgreenwood.com/thinkonit/

Another experience with YBMB; scholarship for Bailey's son

Kim Pearson — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:10:28 -0500

In this Village Voice article. Chris Thompson says Bailey told him about threats he had received from people at Your Black Muslim Bakery. He also talks about what happened to him after his own exposes on the group were published.

Also, a scholarship fund has been created for Bailey's 13-year-old son. According to news reports, Bailey was a single father.

BlogHer Contributing Editor|Professor Kim|

Hakeem, I agree

Lisa Stone — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:43:07 -0500

I agree that naming an Oakland street after Chauncey would be a terrific tribute. Thank you so much for writing down your tribute here. That much a man indeed. He wore a suit and a conscience every day and woe betide you for any thoughtless remark you might make about the community he was bringing into the paper:

Oakland needs to create and name a street after him, for he was that much a man who cared about fairness for all people and he would use any media outlet he could to teach.

Lisa Stone
BlogHer Co-founder
Surfette

"When one reporter is killed for his reporting...

Lisa Stone — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:38:00 -0500

"...dozens more should pounce on the story even more aggressively."

Amen Kim.

Kim, Laurie, I only wish I'd known Chauncey better. He was private, devoted to his kids and to the community, and was extremely focused when he was in the office. I watched and took notes, and he was pretty patient with my questions.

It really makes me proud to be part of BlogHer when you are taking the time to join a story that is missing from the national headlines. Bravo and thank you.

Lisa Stone
BlogHer Co-founder
Surfette

Chauncey Bailey

Hakeem — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:11:27 -0500

I worked with Chanuncey on Soul Beat. He created my show called "Computer Beat" before the Internet was big and before there were DVD's. He was my brother and very close friend who I loved to laugh and smile with after each "home-made" home grown show.

I remember his bluntness and straight-to-the point journals and I remember he always would say: "Saying a little, is worth a lot." So true, and to this day, his words are true. He fell like when we lost Steve Orwin (spelling) who became a victim for trying to save an endangered species and was killed by the people he loved.

Oakland needs to create and name a street after him, for he was that much a man who cared about fairness for all people and he would use any media outlet he could to teach.

I was in Atlanta when I heard of this news and it was very gut-wrinching and I am still trying to come to grips of the who thing. Man this is horrible news and I pray for all those who loved him as much as I did and will for evermore.

I love you Chauncey, and you will always be my HERO!

Hakeem-

Hi Liz!

Kim Pearson — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:38:22 -0500

First, it's great to hear from you. I appreciate your efforts to stay on top of this story. A few points:

Is this an "Islamic" group? I was deliberate in saying that some people refer to them as Muslim extremists because the answer seems to depend upon what you think that means.

The Oakland police, as well as the Nation of Islam, say that YBMB is not affiliated with any established Muslim organization. Neither does the YBMB website make that claim. The website says that Yusuf Bey was influenced by the teachings of Elijah Muhammad, who died in 1975. However, the version of Islam that Elijah Muhammad taught is not orthodox Islam, and it is not espoused by any of his successors. So, I would say that it's self-identified as a Muslim group, perhaps, but it's not part of a recognized religious organization.

Historically, the term "Black Muslim" referred to members of the NOI during the years that Muhammad ran the organization. If you stood outside of YBMB with a sign saying, "Black Muslims are Racists and Fanatics," one might easily think you were referring to the Nation of Islam. You may in fact feel that way, but then, standing in front of YBMB with that sign would make even less sense.

Would the police cart you away? Wouldn't it depend upon the laws governing a protest on private property in that municipality, as well as whether there was a threat to public safety?

As I know you are aware, there are bloggers who have used the incident to make unfounded generalizations about American Muslims. I deliberately didn't link to them.

I'm afraid the redoubtable Mr. Hitchens has an ax to grind against religion that muddies his argument in this instance. He latest book blames religion for all of the evils of the world. Because he has that belief, he tells us, sans evidence that the police and politicians were soft on YBMB
because of its religious self-description. Perhaps he is right, but he does not consider competing explanations. Street gangs and organized crime families elude prosecution and conviction regularly for reasons that have nothing to do with religion.

None of this is to deflect the questions being asked about why the police or Mayor Ron Dellums haven't been more aggressive against YBMB, or violent crime overall. It's simply to say that Hitchens seems to be tailoring the evidence to his preconceptions. That's just not helpful.

BlogHer Contributing Editor|Professor Kim|Contributing Writer, Online Journalism Review

Christopher Hitchens Blames Kow-towing to "Faith Based" Orgs

lizditz — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:55:53 -0500

Christopher Hitchens, writing in Slate today, addresses the way YBMB used the veil of faith to run an empire of thuggery:

http://www.slate.com/id/2171745/

Now, again, I am just asking, but what if this racket had been named the White Christian or Aryan Nations Cookie Parlor? (Motto and mission statement: "Don't F*** With Us.") I think that Oakland's mayor, Ron Dellums—who I was startled to find was still alive—would have joined a picket line around the store (as would I). The same would doubtless have been true of Rep. Barbara Lee, in whose district the YBMB was situated. But instead, in its role as a "community business," the YBMB enjoyed warm support and endorsement from both the mayor and the congresswoman. And the guns for past and future slayings were inside the store.

If this isn't softness on crime, then the term is meaningless. Residents have been complaining for a long time about the atmosphere of hatred and violence—and about what some have called the YBMB's attempt to "cleanse" the neighborhood, either of godless liquor stores on the model of jihadism or simply of business rivals and journalistic critics. What were the police doing all this time, and why did Chauncey Bailey have to be murdered before they could be moved to act? Perhaps they were doing what they do best: confiscating marijuana and rousting whores so as to painlessly improve the crime statistics. I called Bob Valladon, the extremely rude and graceless head of the Oakland police union, but I didn't even get to put my question before receiving a large flea in my ear. Other California law-enforcement officials were adamant in refusing to be quoted in any way. I can't say I blame them: Thousands of their voters and citizens are living in Third World conditions of fear, with a "no-snitch" policy openly enforced at gunpoint, and they cannot be troubled to do anything about it.

This official apathy—amounting to collusion—is undergirded by a culture that cringingly insists on "respect" for any organization, however depraved, that can masquerade as "faith-based." If I had stood outside that hideous bakery with a sign saying "Black Muslims Are Racists and Fanatics," I think the cops would have turned up in a flat second and taken me into custody. I might well have been charged with a hate crime. As I have written before and am sure I will write again: This has to stop, and it has to stop right now, before sharia baking comes to a place near you.

It is a difficult call.

Liz Ditz
I Speak of Dreams
lizditz@gmail.com

Blogging and Danger; is YBMB Really "An Islamic Group"?

lizditz — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:47:45 -0500

Hi Kim,

You wrote:

And as more bloggers become involved in investigative journalism, we might consider how many of us would be willing to pay the price Bailey paid in order to report the news without fear or favor.

I think that is what so moved me about the story.

It wasn't even front page news in the San Jose Mercury News. Today's story (on Broussard's confession) is inside the local news.

http://www.mercurynews.com/alamedacounty/ci_6553995

And I am not sure that Yusuf Bey's organization (known as Your Black Muslim Bakery) should be considered an "Islamic group" --rather a splinter cult, sort of the way the Branch Davidians should be a splinter cult rather than a "Christian group". In other words, using the trappings of Black Muslim rhetoric for personal gain.

See the Rick Ross Institute's collection of stories

http://www.rickross.com/groups/bakery.html

The Rick A. Ross Institute of New Jersey is a database of information about cults, destructive cults, controversial groups and movements. The Rick A. Ross Institute of New Jersey (RRI) is a nonprofit public resource with a vast archive that contains thousands of individual documents.)

Liz Ditz
I Speak of Dreams
lizditz@gmail.com

The courage to tell the truth, regardless of consequences

Kim Pearson — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:34:24 -0500

Lisa,
Thank you for sharing your personal memories of Bailey. I thought about you from the moment that I read of his murder -- I was sure that you must have known him from your time at the Tribune. I am sorry for your loss.

Laurie,
I understand what you mean about physical pain. The tragedy in this case is compounded by the fact that Bailey was killed because of his journalism . That is something that we associate with other countries, not our own. The last targeted kiling of a journalist in the US was in 1993.

A new controversy has started among journalists over the lack of national press coverage of Bailey's murder. According to Richard Prince's latest column some journalists think Bailey's murder would have been more heavily covered had he been white. Some observers see parallels between Bailey's murder and that of Daniel Pearl, in that both men were murdered by people described as Muslim extremists.

Whatever one thinks of the coverage, the response from journalists should be clear. When one reporter is killed for his reporting, dozens more should pounce on the story even more aggressively. That's what happened after Don Bolles was murdered in 1976. The aggressive response from journalists led to the founding of the Society of Investigative Reporters and Editors.

And as more bloggers become involved in investigative journalism, we might consider how many of us would be willing to pay the price Bailey paid in order to report the news without fear or favor.

BlogHer Contributing Editor|Professor Kim