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other countries cry out

davet. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:18:44 -0500

gena,

yes, we do respectfully disagree on this subject. i hate
to sound like the typical arrogant american...but i'm not too worried
about what other countries think. i'm more concerned with things here
at home. we delivers BILLIONS in aid all around the world each year and
still people despise us. we kept a number of european countries from
speaking german for decades and decades, and yet they thumb their noses
at us. we helped bring down the soviet empire which had bad intentions
in many places around the world. i could go on and on and on. this
country is far from perfect and every administration since washington
has done good and bad. i once again go back to the fact that many of
these countries that reportedly despise us publically say something
entirely different in private. saudi arabia, egypt, turkey, pakistan
etc. have their own problems at home. the last thing they want is for
muslim extremists to overtake their countries.

YES i think so!

osoleomar48 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:01:47 -0500

Yes GENA , i think so too, that's a just way, that one is a only human thing

" Um, there are a lot of other countries that decry what we have done..."

It Is Very Simple - He Lied.

Gena Haskett — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:51:01 -0500

Bush lied. The Administration lied and the world long decided that there are limits to inhumane treatment of prisoners of war. America violated and continues to violate the Geneva Convention.

There is no argument. It was the wrong thing to do. Um, there are a lot of other countries that decry what we have done.

Yes, now we've got to clean up the mess that America created.
On that we agree.

How that happens I suspect we'd disagree.

Gena - Out On The Stoop

Great ! LOVEBAZ!

osoleomar48 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:30:36 -0500

Great ! LOVEBAZ i crying now on reading your post...i kiss u

Great post!

osoleomar48 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:18:51 -0500

Great post! Thanks Kim, thanks Virginia, thanks all people who posted about the politician people...they're a scandalouse liars!

'LEFT' out

davet. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:26:25 -0500

I am still amazed at the hatred directed towards Bush and those
serving the government. I have some issues with Bush myself, but this
talk of how we've turned everyone against us since invading Iraq is
amazing. Hello...We've had terrorists after us since the days of Jimmy
Carter in the White House. Our barracks in Lebanon were blown up in the
1980s, long before Bush. The TWA hijacking was long before Bush. The
first WTC bombing was before Bush. The U.S.S. Cole attack predated
Bush. The idea that invading Iraq in 2003 turned the entire Muslim
world against us is nuts. These people (obviously the radicals, not the
majority of good, honest people).... Muslim, Arab, etc. have long hated
the West and what we stand for. I am also amazed how many women crusade
against what we're doing in the Middle East. Last time I checked, girls
in Afghanistan were able to go to school, something they could not do
under the Taliban. Women in Iraq are no longer being kidnapped off the
streets and brought to Saddam and his 2 sicko sons for their pleasures.
Are things perfect in Afghanistan and Iraq? Heck no. Do we have a lot
of work to do? Heck yes. We can argue until pigs fly whether or not it
was the right thing to do - invading Iraq. We're there, we need to
leave it in a better place than it would be under the terrorists, and we
will continue to be the lone superpower in the world. I hear too that
Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc. publically decry our moves in the
Middle East in regards to Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, etc. I think it is
safe to say...what they say privately is entirely different.

Regards,

Dave

San Diego

gocalifornia.blogspot.com

I remain hopeful and prayerful...

Lovebabz — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:44:36 -0500

This is an amazing time. This is where if we push forward and own up to some stuff we could come out on the other side as a stronger and more perfect union. The time now is not for the wringing of hands because it is hard. The way forward is with a broken heart. More folks have to be apart of the dialogue. Even if thery are ignorant and biased and predjudiced and just plain stupid there is a window here to make sweeping changes. N. Wolfe is amazing, but I think Marrianne Williamson in her book, "The Healing of America captures the spirit of what needs to happen moving forward. "Our Challenge is to speak up for heart, with heart.

Dr. King said "True peace is not merely the absence of negative force--tension, or war; it is the presence of some positive force--justice, good will, and brotherhood". I would add Sisterhood!

Love,

Babz

Numbed

Mata H — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:19:48 -0500

I have been reading "The Culture of Make Believe" by Derrick Jensen -- in which he talks about (among other things) the process of numbing-down in America over the past 2 hundred years or so. We have become so numb that we do not even register the most horrible atrocities. I also wrote a piece about how i believe the online community has created an illusion of activism. No one commented on that post either. Although there may be (and should be!) agreement for what you say, it is as though some nexus for organizing is just gone.

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Support truth

Virginia DeBolt — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:54:22 -0500

As individuals, we have to support the people who tell the truth and boycott the people who lie. That means no more Fox News--listen to Counter Spin instead. That means no more MSN--listen to Democracy Now instead. That means don't vote for someone who sounds like he wants to start a war in Iran. That means turn off Entertainment Tonight and read Dissent instead.

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Bone Rattling Stuff Is Hard To Write About

Gena Haskett — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:33:33 -0500

I read Prof. Kim's first post on Naomi and then went to see the video and read a chapter of the book. I'd would be shocked if this was brought up on Charley Rose, Tavis or Bill Moyer's Journal (well maybe Bill would do it)

But M$M news? No, because the first words out of their mouths would be "controversial" new book and then spend time questioning motives and not the content of just what has been done to the country.

This will have to be a bottom up education process and we better move fast.

Gena - Out On The Stoop

Excellent Article

adodom — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:03:43 -0500

How do you motivate a people? Or more appropriately, how do you manipulate them? You lead them without them knowing they have been led. Particularly :

"the Bush administration has treated speaking out as unpatriotic, if not treasonous. Many of those who have dissented have faced the administration’s wrath and retribution."

I hope more pay attention to topics like this one. The tactics of fear and intimidation have already silenced too many.

What will bring more attention to these issues?

Kim Pearson — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:54:06 -0500

Thanks so much for YOUR reading and commenting. When I sat down with this book, along with Naomi Wolf's, I was stunned by the accumulation of evidence that the rule of law is being challenged in our country in fundamental ways. The NYT column that you pointed to further supports that perception. Then consider the changes being proposed for the War Powers Act, which currently requires the President to seek Congressional approval before deploying troops in combat. I plan to write about that for Tuesday. Big issues indeed that can only be resolved by an informed electorate that demands respect for the law, even for the the executive branch.

Kim
BlogHer Contributing Editor|Professor Kim|

Totally worried

Maria Niles — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:44:00 -0500

Like you, Crunchy Carpets - I immediately thought of Frank Rich's Op-Ed this morning. And I am upset but I don't know what to do.

As Rich points out too many Americans seem content to return to our focus on superficial, trivial gossip and not deal with complex, painful issues. And even when people do hear wake up calls it seems that too often we learn the wrong lessons.

Bush and the Republicans have done such a good job of controlling the discussion and framing any questioning or dissent as unpatriotic I wonder how we can get to a complex discussion without smearing the messengers.

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What scares me more is how little reaction these postings get

Crunchy Carpets — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:59:09 -0500

You don't seem to be either upsetting people or getting people worried when this is BIG STUFF...bigger than how bitchy Clinton is or is Obama rascist...this is big shit...

and you add stuff like this that barely gets a whisper in main stream media...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/opinion/13rich.html?hp

BUSH staff warned not to leave the country due to war crimes charges.....

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