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RE: Drug Companies Are...

shellberry — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:18:24 -0500

WARNING: Extremist Theory (I just don't want anyone going "You're an extremist, ppl like you destroy the world, psycho! Get a goldfish." Yeah, I already know. Don't attack me personally, it's tacky. Green is the new red (great blog BTW.), and if I don't say it someone else will)

The Pitocin link is excellent, I've never heard of it before.

I, personally am one of those parents who have chosen not to
immunize my kids with certain shots, like varicella and are waiting
until they are older to consider MMR. You have many ideas I agree
with completely. Right up my Parenting Dogma Alley. :)Medical, like
all science, is fallible and when Advertising budgets surpass
Research Budgets, it's easy to see where their mindset is. Even
things like child birth has become a consumer product (but that is
for a whole other blog completely).

As equally infuriating are the Insurance Companies. A lot of
parents don't feel as strongly on the consumerism of the medical
industry, and are facing problems with insurance that is getting lost
in the background of the handful of "peacnik hippies" as
ourselves. :P We're easy to hate. They have done wonders at
discrediting things like self introspection, holistic cures and even
faith (personally, I don't know about "miracles" but I know
enough not to discredit it. There is so much about the human mind and
the "Dynamics of Faith" that we don't understand, who
knows).

I could write eight hundred articles on different areas of
this and not even begin to touch on it. However, your point about
"if someone were brave enough to break into the secret world of
the drug companies"...people do every day. There are documents
all over google one day and then gone the next. The mainstream media
is quick to talk about lead in two dollar toys but completely shuns
things like the Vioxx incidents. Where did that disappear too?

The drug companies are

hojobj — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:37:03 -0500

The drug companies are making this a big media outcry because they want to make money. They don't really care if people get sick from these dangerous vaccines, they make money on the vaccines and all the resulting illnesses because of the lowered immune systems. I think if someone were brave enough to break into the secret world of the drug companies like was done with the cigarette companies, the public would be outraged to find out how their health is maniputated.

This isn't about health care costs! This is about drug companies getting their way no matter the cost.

Informed parents are not vaccinating because drug companies are not fully testing these drugs. They are passing off side effects as "something else caused it" when a brave doctor actually has the guts to report them. Vaccines are the most under-reported, under-tested drugs in the country. And they are experimenting on our children! This has nothing to do with health care costs or insurance! Drug companies deliberately undermine any studies or fund them to say what they want the study to say. There is no impartial judge. Parents can only observe the unvaccinated children versus the vaccinated ones after doing extensive research to see what is really going on.

Vaccinated children generally tend to be sicker more and for longer periods of time and have had many courses of antibiotics before they even start grade school. Although it can't be proved because there will never be studies on it, look at the large amount of ADHD now a days and what part does vaccinations play in that? Ear infections? I think Autism (Pitocin use may also be a cause for Autism too) is just a tip of the iceberg on what is going on with these dangerous vaccines.

The news reports are deliberately not reporting the true numbers of who was vaccinated and got the measles anyway. They are vague and are making it sound like, because most people blindly believe what we are told, 131 cases were unvaccinated, when it clearly states they don't know how many were actually vaccinated or not. Think for a minute. If most of those cases were vaccinated and still got the measles, how many more parents are going to stop vaccinating and there goes the drug companies guaranteed cash cow?

How many of you subject your children to the chicken pox vaccination when all the reported cases of chicken pox out in Utah, I believe it was, were all vaccinated and STILL got it?

Yes I am extreme. But I've spent a lot of time researching, observing and talking to other people about this subject.

This is America. We are a capitalistic country and therefore, big business is in business to make money, no matter what the cost, including crashing the economy. (Think oil companies) Drug companies are no better. Thinking drug companies are truly regulated by government is just sticking your head in the sand. They have more than enough money to pay off officials, researchers and so on and to get what they want.

Drugs and new technologies have their place. But how much of it would truly be needed if vaccines weren't put in our bodies while we were children? We'll never know the answer to that, unfortunately.

The funny thing is...

Tacomamama — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:01:41 -0500

...that now in our uninsured state it's actually easier to get that flexibility. When I want to take the kids for their vaccines, we go to the free vaccination clinics. This makes delaying them pretty easy.

For a variety of reasons I did delay some for my youngest, but she did end up then getting a rather massive number in one sitting at a clinic last year and that wasn't what I had wanted. We do what we can do. She's all caught up now so as to make no waves with kindergarten registration.

We've just clawed our way back to employer-provided health insurance, it will be interesting to deal with a regular doctor again. I used to be the most trusting of patients but motherhood, law school, and economic collapse have toughened me up considerably.

Well Written

JennaHatfield — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:35:35 -0500

So far, the only blogs I've seen covering this article have made fun of those who have chosen not to vaccinate whatever the reason.

We are a family who delays vaccines. We have our reasons and live in a state that covers those reasons. Things got interesting recently when our insurance stopped covering immunizations (you read that right) and I had to call the local health department to inquire about their processes. When I asked, near the end of the conversation, if we could proceed with our delayed schedule, we were told that, no, we could not.

Until health insurances are willing to cover vaccines and doctors/clinics are willing to work with patients, the numbers of outbreaks and unvaccinated children are not going to go down. We'll continue with our schedule with our youngest son, paying completely out of pocket. But I think that's ridiculous.

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