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working at home a mixed blessing

sharkeysday — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:56:53 -0600

An interesting thread...I have my own web design/programming biz out of my house and have for about 10 years. My husband just came to work with me. I think working on your own is a great way to make this work...HOWEVER...kids are still an issue.

I have had "mother's helpers", "nannies", done preschool programs for a few hours a week and still you feel completely divided between telling the kids to hush while you're on the phone and spending quality time with them.

The kids are both in school now and so my husband and I "tag-team" the days they're out of school (which SEEMS like a lot!...how do you people with 40 hour a week jobs do that?). It works most of the time, but I still feel like I end up doing housework and kids more than my husband does. So, working at home is good and bad.

All in all, the good outweighs the bad, but you have to look at how you work, how disciplined you are AND you have to have SOME childcare. When someone first told me that I scoffed (I had little babies at the time)...but with a 7 and 5 year old who have always had me around...I have to agree.

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Lucky

bennettaj — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:43:04 -0500

I have to say I'm one of the lucky ones. I work as a programmer contracted out to a large financial company. I work 30 hours per week all from home and get full benefits. I have 4 weeks of vacation (at 30 hrs/wk), full medical, 6% matching 401k, sick time, etc. You name it, I have it. And if I work more than 30 hours, I get whatever I bill over that amount. Yes, I'm a lucky woman.
I worked for 2 years full-time in the office before I had my first child. When that happened, my husband also went into the police academy when she was 7 weeks old. I went back to work at 8 weeks. I was SO stressed at having to go back to my job full-time, shuttle her back and forth to the sitter and drive a 40 minute commute each way all while learning to be a mommy for the first time. I asked to go part-time first about a month later. It was to a point where I was willing to quit over it. I was way too stressed. Thankfully, the client appreciated me and agreed to let me go part-time. I worked 4 7 hours days and would take Mondays off and make it a rest day just for me and my daughter.
When my husband got out of academy, we were transferred and I was going to quit. My client agreed to let me finish a few projects from the new city and then I was going to quit. A few weeks turned into a few months and I'm still working at home.
Now we've moved back and I've had another child but I still work from home. I work 30 hours a week, 6 hours a day. I take my girls to preschool and do the extra activities that they have. I normally try to be available online to the client between 9am and 4pm even though I may not work every single minute. Sometimes I can be found working at midnight. It all depends.
I do have to say that once you are in this type of position though, you are sort of stuck. I worked my way into this type of position and it's not something you easily come by. I know of only 2 other people in my client's company that are part-time and they don't work from home. I can't easily go find another job. So if I'm looking to "move up", it's not that easy.
Overall, I absolutely love working from home. I love being home with my kids. BUT it's A LOT of work with the kids home and trying to complete tasks.
I would agree with previous posters and say don't be afraid to ask. If you are valued as an employee and it's approached correctly, you may just get lucky.

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Part-Time Work/ Full-time Brain --- Strollerderby is hiring!!

Redsy — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:17:34 -0500

Rita,
This is a great topic! I cobble together income now from a few sources after having tried (and failed) to work full-time AND raise three young daughters. I'm now a contracted fundraiser for my daughters' school but I get to work from home most of the time. In my spare time I write for Babble (Nerve's parenting blog) which isn't enough to pay for any serious bills, but certainly helps around the edges.

I wanted to be able to stay at home when the kids get sick, take time to keep our lives somewhat organized, and still NOT miss out on my sweet little (last) baby -- who is now 2 1/2

I wish more companies would smarten up about creating part-time opportunities. Until then, it is incumbent upon US to create our own possibilities. If we have the experience and education, we CAN make it happen..

And btw, Strollerderby (Babble's parenting blog) is hiring!! Email me for more information: redsydarling@gmail.com

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Part time daycare

mamatothree — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:39:55 -0500

I am suprized that no one has commented on the expense of part time daycare. Not only does your $$ per hour value drop for part time status in the workplace, daycares charge more per hour for part timers. Who can really blame them, they are limited in the number of children they can care for and accepting part timers takes up a slot that could be filled by a full timer. I have been able to find a couple of decent paying part time jobs in the 9 years I have been a mom. I eventually just gave up because I was bumped from daycare everytime a full timer wanted to join if the center was full.
I have also had one work at home gig. I quit that when I realized my pre-school aged daughter was situated in front of a TV for hours while I attempted to get work done. She would have been better off at daycare. Working at home is best for parents of school aged kids.

Job Share

Momish — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:01:39 -0500

What a great post that touches on so many issues. I am a full time working mom, so I can completely relate. It is hard to balance it all and at times I wish I could cut the work load down for more family time. But I love my job and working full time. My sister, however, was ready to tone it down and seems to have found the perfect solution.

After my niece was born, my sister went into a job share program. She and another mom share one full time job. One of them (my sister) works an extra day and she gets the full time benefits of health care, etc. The other woman only works two days a week. The salary is split between them equally. The company sees it as only one full time position, one salary. I think this is a nice alternative and hope to see it become a more popular way of retaining valuable employees while allowing care givers a way to balance their lives and careers.

I found it!

mybayouvieux — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:53:03 -0500

It isn't easy working from home part-time for great wages. But I found it! And I wrote about it and this whole problem women face at :http://mybayouvieux.blogspot.com/2007/10/my-thoughts-on-w-o-r-k.html

I get to do all that mommy stuff with my 16 month old and 4 year old. I get to attend all the school stuff and play outside with them on beautiful days. But on the other hand i have to be very disciplined. I have to work late at night after everyone is in bed and then get up early with them all. I have to work on weekends when Daddy can take the kids. It can be tough to get my 15-20 hours in a week.

For instance, my son was sick this week. Barely worked. Trying to catch up now. But, as hubby said, I would have stayed home from work if I worked on site. Good point.

I am not going to complain. I found a gem of a job! I wish the same for all women who desire to find it. Read my blog I listed above! I am calling for change! I like what "Cdamour" said above. I've actually been trying to convince my fellow mom friends who want to return to work that they too can work from home and be virtual assistants or whatever their specialty. THey just have to ask and go after it. I might consider like "Cdamour" actually starting my own business contracting out my friends!

Let's get it going ladies! Good luck!

Moving that way

mama2bna — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:08:39 -0500

I work full time, 20 hours in the office, 20 hours from home. There are days when the being at home working while my girls are around is a huge challenge, but I am still grateful. If I could find a way to swing just 20, and to have them be from my home, I'd think I'd found nirvana. I am going to keep looking and hoping. Great post.

An interesting option

Cdamour — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:06:43 -0500

Today I took a PR class. One of the things the instructor encouraged us to think about was getting a virtual assistant to help us with our pr efforts and general business efforts.

In the past I have heard the term virtual assistant and thought it would be someone who would do envelope stuffing. While that is true, some of the work she talked about VAs doing do take a higher level of skills - lots of writing and marketing type work.

Check out the list of 101 things VAs can do at http://multiplestreamsteam.com

According to today's instructor, VAs hourly rates tend to run $40 - $80/hour and VAs work from their homes.

I don't know a lot about VAs; however, sounds like it might be worth looking into for some.

Hope this helps. Cynthia

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Understood

Tere — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:48:58 -0500

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Yes, Rita, I did get what you were saying; I was unclear in my own comment. While I need my current salary to make ends meet (or rather, to get the bills paid and still be able to save), if I could find part-time work that paid an equivalent to the full-time salary, it would be really, really great (the break-down you give is a good example).

I think that cutting from full-time down to part-time will always entail a sacrifice as far as pay, but were part-time pay more on par with full-time pay (a more equitable break-down: work half the time, get half the pay), it would be more feasible to cut corners, make ends meet, and not be struggling.

Not full-time pay - equivalent pay

Rita Arens — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:50:37 -0500

I think I should clarify - I'm not talking about working full-time and getting full-time pay. I'm saying if you make a salary of $50,000, then you're essentially getting about $75,000 worth of benefits with healthcare, paid vacation, etc. If you work 20 hours a week, then if you were making EQUIVALENT money, you'd either get $25/hour plus benefits or $37.50/hour without benefits. That's what I'm looking for. How can you make the equivalent of your full-time, salaried hourly rate working 20 hours a week? It's hard to find. Those who offer part-time work usually aren't willing to pay more than $15/hour. That's like making less than $30,000 a year for full-time work, which is less than most professional women make.

I don't get it. What's going on? I'm going to post on a similar topic to this that affects working parents on Monday -stay tuned.

Also, Cynthia - I think the answer is that if you don't want to pay benefits, break it down so that you're paying a high enough hourly rate to cover benefits, like I just outlined above. Look at salary survey sites, pick the midrange, break it into an hourly rate by diving by 2,000, and then add approximately $15,000-$25,000 if you're not offering any benefits at all before doing the division.

That, my friends, is a fair part-time salary. Where the hell is it?

Also - I just got here from following an ad in my BlogHer ad network with my name on it. I think I'll go squee my way down the street now - that was pretty cool.

Surrender, Dorothy - When I was your age, we just let them ride in the back window.

Trapped

Tere — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:03:48 -0500

Tere
A Mom, a Blog and the Life In-Between

This has been my dilemma for almost 2 years now -- I love to work (and feel I am a better mom because of it), and we need my paycheck, but it kills me to be tied to a set schedule, to knowing I have to be in my office from X to X, 5 days a week.

I suppose there are options for part-time work and all that, but my particular problem is that I need my full-time paycheck. If we could stand a pay cut so I could have more flexibility, I'd do it in an instant. But as a professional with 10 years under her belt, who earns a pretty nice salary and lives in a city with a high cost-of-living, it's not an easy move to make.

Part-time work at full-time pay? Sounds ideal. Sign me up when you find it!!

Having it all

sleepingmommy — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:52:23 -0500

For the last year and half my husband has been working full time from home (and a shop he rents about a mile away) and I've returned to graduate school part time. It's nice, but its hard. When I'm finished with my degree there won't really be much I can do from home with it and will have to try to return to the workforce outside the home. I want to but I don't, you know? It's the whole "having it all" syndrom that we were brought up with. How do you balance having it all without dropping something? Working from home would be one way to try to do this but its just not feasible for everyone. Not successfully anyway.

Something I've been thinkng about alot. Actually I just posted on my own blog about this whole "having it all" thing.

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Part time professional pay

Cdamour — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:35:42 -0500

I have a question for all of you. It looks like I may start hiring some folks for my company moving ahead in 2008.

My preference would be to have virtual workers who are professionals wanting maybe 15 or so hours/week with very flexible hours. I don't really care when the work gets done - as long as it gets done by the time I need it for some of the work.

In that type of position, would you expect benefits too? Or would you be willing to be contract staff?

I think one of the reasons folks don't necessarily go part time, virtual is that they are unsure how to manage this type of workers.

Cynthia

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The other side of the coin

fabooj — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:28:39 -0500

I work at home for my husband. He started his company way before we even met and when I got laid off a week after finding out I was pregnant with my first kid, it was a no-brainer for me to work with him (the company that laid me off, did let me work from home part time for almost a year while I decided if I wanted to stay with that company). While we do have times (like now) where a stable 2nd income would be a blessing, we get by somehow. If I had to be honest, I probably spend about 4 hours a day working. That is, some days I have nothing to do but blog (admittedly, sometimes I just blog instead of working) and other days, I'll spend 4 hours driving around to sites and when I get home around 1pm, I work until the kids get picked up from daycare and sometimes even into the wee hours of the morning.

Last year and the year before, I was easily spending 14 - 18 hours a day working, half that time I was pregnant and the other half with a newborn. It wasn't easy and I definitely don't ever want to do that again. It was difficult to spend time with my little girl and it got to the point where we weren't even eating dinner until 10 or 11pm. Despite being at home, I felt, if just a little bit, what mothers who work outside the home must feel. The day I got out of the hospital, I had to work. I got an email from a client: "Congrats on the newest addition to your family! You must be tired with two kids now. We need this site in a hurry, can we get by Friday?" Two days later, I logged almost 300 miles in one day photographing 16 sites around SoCal, while my husband was with the toddler and the baby all day. Although we were a little sad, it was a relief to finally put the 2 year old in daycare at the beginning of last year (and yeah, we slept the first 2 days she was in daycare).

We put the baby in daycare last fall, since we both really needed to get work done. Now that things have slowed down, we go to the gym during the day or have long lunches, play video games (we so productive!), etc. In our case, the technology available has helped. We were able to take mini-vacations and still get work done. We use our phones to keep in contact with clients and they don't need to know we're eating seafood by the beach. But on the homefront, the technology isn't helpful at all. We do feel handcuffed to our clients no matter the time of day. They have no problem giving us a job at 4pm on a Friday requesting it for Monday morning.

So, I guess my point is to be careful what you wish for and look carefully. Both of us are a little burnt out and talk of getting "regular" jobs...I guess the grass is greener on the other side.

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The Hunt

moddivorce — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:07:56 -0500

My friend, who is a pediatrician in New York and a new mom, has been able to find several opportunities that have allowed her to work 20 - 30 hours per week, max. It took some time for her to find these opportunities, but with persistence and constant questioning of employers, she's been able to hammer down the professional schedule she needs. Of course, her employers have often asked for more, but she always says "No". Her advice to professional moms is to keep looking and asking for what you want, even if the employers aren't offering these options up front.

Good luck ladies,
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