BlogHer - women leaders - Comments

Not sure on stats but...

paulag01 — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:00:53 -0500

Hi Jody,

I agree with you some hard and fast statistics would be great. I haven't found a quick easy source of them (though maybe they are out there!). But it is lower overall, especially at the executive ranks of Fortune 500 firms. Someone told me a stat while at BlogHer and it went out of my head...

Personally while I have had say 14 or 15 managers/supervisors (counting 2 if I had a supervisor AND manager for instance).... only 5 of them were women. 2 directors, 2 manager level, 1 supervisory/project lead level. So even in my total informal little 17 years of corporate life poll, it is like 30%. Totally unscientific of course ;-) Just a story.

How about others -- ?

Paula Gregorowicz
The Paula G Company

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Percent of Women Managers/Executives?

Jody DeVere -- Ask Patty — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:14:17 -0500

Wondering how many have ever had a woman manager, boss or worked for a woman executive? Statistical data suggests the probability is low overall.

I agree male or female good leadership skills are an art form that takes years of training, education and experience to be a great.

Would be a great national survey topic!

Jody DeVere
President & CEO
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I agree that it depends on the person -- not the gender

GraceGoesThruLife — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:40:58 -0500

I have to say that the best manager I ever had was a man and the worst was (sadly) a woman. So based upon my own experience, I don't agree with the statement that one gender manages better than others. For me, I think a good manager is one that is able to lead effectively and provide his/her staff with the support and guidance they need to do a good job along with providing each person new responsiblities to keep them challenged and growing in their business knowledge. But that's my own take on things.

Funny how gender complicates it all

paulag01 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:02:32 -0500

Great comments all... and I like what you add Flightkeeper that whatever gender is in the minority does have to work harder. As theomalleycats notes it is often women in that role, but in fact there are some professions where the role is reversed.

Well said Vered -- the best compliment is being known that YOU are a good manager, who really cares about the gender piece if we look at the person at what they bring to the table.

Paula Gregorowicz
The Paula G Company

http://www.thepaulagcompany.com

I agree with most of the above

Flightkeeper — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:03:37 -0500

I have had both male and female managers and had good and bad examples of both genders. I think what's more important is if your style can work with your manager's, then I'm happy. Either way I don't think gender had anything to do with it.

If there are more women managers than male managers in the work situation and vice versa I've noticed that the gender in the minority is the one who has to try harder to work the way the majority gender does.

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Also has to do with the industry...

theomalleycats — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:15:25 -0500

I've worked for both female and male managers in a traditionally male-dominated, good ol' boy industry. I enjoyed working for both genders, though it seemed that women had to work harder to get further. They also had to avoid crossing the line into territory where the men were intimidated by their power. Sigh...it was all very exhausting. Fortunately, I left this company before my female manager was "let go" for reasons I'm not completely aware of. Apparently, she ruffled some feathers. But she was damn good at her job!

It's the person, not the gender

Vered — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:25:20 -0500

I really dislike this type of generalizations. They can easily backfire. I think what we women should aim for is a world that simply does not judge people based on their gender.

I don't want to be perceived as "better" because I'm a woman. I want to be perceived as better because I'm Vered and I'm a smart, talented and ambitious person.

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Do you appoint friends?

Soccer Swim Mom — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:14:14 -0500

Do you appoint your friends to positions of power because they're qualified? I bet you do. I don't think Sarah did.

Sarah appointed several people from her high school for key positions in Alaska. One, who's a realtor, was appointed to a 120K + per year job, for a top level agricultural position because, get this.... she liked cows.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1221343324-tGxa66AkDRYq1tsNYpjoIw&pagewanted=all

One friend who was appointed admitted to having no experience managing people but was confident that he's learn along the way.

Sarah IS one of me

erivera — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:24:05 -0500

I am a 34-year-old, non-white, working mother of two, who stayed at home for more than five years before finally re-entering the workforce. I am the primary breadwinner in my family, by a long shot, and when I have client functions it's my husband who takes care of the kids. I care more about the state of the economy, national securtity and education in public schools than whether or not someone has to drive to Canada to abort a baby. Every day I have to balance doing my job, which I am phenomenal at, and raising my kids. Sarah Palin represents me more than all the liberal women journalists, leaders of feminist organizations and the Hilary Clintons of the world combined. And I bet I'm not the only one.

I know, she's doing now what

Janers0217 — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:33:24 -0500

I know, she's doing now what Obama used to do, saying the same stuff over and over again until it's completely tiring and makes you want to gag. Of course, if she opened her mouth about issues and spoke her mind, that might make me want to gag, too, since I haven't found anything I agree with her on.

Janet + http://fuzzypinkslippers.com = love

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The problem is that Sarah

media girl — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:30:42 -0500

The problem is that Sarah Palin does not speak for herself. Not so far. If they threw open the doors and said, "Hey folks, go ahead, ask her questions and find out why she's so fabulous!" you would get a very different response.

But she's being hidden from the press, and speaking tired talking points. And it doesn't help that she's lying so much.

One of us? Not that I can see.

--media girl

Nice to read these voices

Jill Miller Zimon — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:21:13 -0500

Thank you for expressing these thoughts. Just nice to read.

Jill
Writes Like She Talks

I noticed. Her whole

Janers0217 — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:09:47 -0500

I noticed. Her whole speech was full of hate-filled remarks. It was shocking of someone who wants to gain votes of people who might have voted for someone a bit more liberal than her.

Janet + http://fuzzypinkslippers.com = love

http://urban-sunrise.net - a blog for 18-25 year olds

I thought that voting for

Janers0217 — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:07:23 -0500

I thought that voting for someone only like oneself was a dangerous thing to do, but apparently, like you, I'm naive, too.

Janet + http://fuzzypinkslippers.com = love

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It isn't half bad

Janers0217 — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:03:39 -0500

Um...I've actually read part of Michelle's thesis, and it isn't bad. It's a sociological study, nothing more, nothing less.

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