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Are you that uninformed?

kbl — Mon, 18 May 2009 16:24:18 -0500

Wow! Lizzi, I am still reeling over your post.

I mean really ... who in their right mind would call Planned Parenthood's services "healthcare"??

Can you be that naive or uninformed to think that the only thing Planned Parenthood does is treat underage rape victims and perform abortions? My daughter would not have had the luxury of healthcare AT ALL if it weren't for Planned Parenthood. She received routine exams, Paps and medication on a sliding scale tied to income that she would not have otherwise been able to afford. Your flip, insensitive comments are not only incredibly uninformed, but narrow-minded, intolerant and insulting.

Yeah, you're totally right.

evilslutopia — Sat, 16 May 2009 20:30:51 -0500

Yeah, you're totally right. In fact, here's a list of services that Planned Parenthood provides:

anemia testing
cholesterol screening
diabetes screening
employment and sports physicals
flu vaccination
high blood pressure screening
physical exams
pregnancy planning services
smoking cessation
tetanus vaccination
thyroid screening
STD testing, including HIV testing
breast exams
cervical cancer screening — including Pap tests
fibroids testing and treatment
follow-up and treatment for abnormal Pap tests
hormone replacement therapy
incontinence treatment
infertility testing and treatment
mammogram referrals
menopause and midlife services
sexual response education
routine physical exams
urinary tract infections testing and treatment
vaginal infections testing and treatment
prenatal services
childbirth classes
postpartum exams

I definitely can't see how anyone could possibly confuse any of those worthless services with real healthcare. My mistake.

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What would you call it

Southerngirl — Fri, 15 May 2009 10:22:46 -0500

If getting your pap and a mamoram, birthing classes, birth control and all is not "healthcare" then what is it?

Michelle

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I'm still laughing at

Lizzi — Fri, 15 May 2009 09:56:59 -0500

I'm still laughing at Evil Slut's (would totally love to be able to use that name more frequently in conversation!) comment with the words "Planned Parenthood" and "healthcare" in the same sentence.

I mean really ... who in their right mind would call Planned Parenthood's services "healthcare"??

"Here's your post-statutory-rape exam, sweetie. Would you like an abortion or fries with that? Tell your friends! (Just not your parents)"

Lizzi

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"Granted, I get a sadistic

evilslutopia — Sat, 09 May 2009 19:50:44 -0500

"Granted, I get a sadistic bit of joy from knowing that after years of
having our taxpayer dollars sent to groups like Planned Parenthood,
that money now goes towards the alternative."

Taxpayer money has been going to abstinence only education groups, crisis pregnancy centers, purity balls, etc., for the last eight years. Not really a new development, is it?

But yeah, we're so with you on Planned Parenthood. Fuck them. Providing all of that affordable healthcare to women who might otherwise have no access to healthcare at all? So disgraceful.

~Jezebel

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It's getting redundant

Jaime Lafond — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:02:27 -0500

I've enjoyed your posts and the debates that they spark, but they are starting to sound all the same. The Dems are hypocrites, I get it! And just an FYI, so are Republicans. You could go back and forth all day with examples of the hypocrisy. So...can we do something new? Maybe? Huh?

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Gena Haskett — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:32:59 -0500

Obama made a bad joke about the Special Olympics - go get him, let him know and the reason behind why you were offended. I can live with it. If that is what was most important item that conservative folks picked up on in the Leno appearance yak it up.

It was not. It was when earlier he said that it was necessary to support AIG because it was interlinked many banking and financial institutions that if AIG had crashed the whole banking infrastructure would have gone down with it.

I dunno, that was a radical statement to be investigated, examined, followed up on or utter a "WTF haven't we been told?" But you pick you battles.

I don't care about political party affiliation; if I have a concern or I believe it is wrong I will state my beliefs. I hope that I consistently point to facts to back up my beliefs.

I've seen Dubya cartoons, video and performance pieces. Most were on administration policy but there were some that attacked the man physically or intellectually. I looked but didn't laugh. Just shook my head and moved on.

Presidents learn it comes with the job. It might even be essential to a democracy that we can respond in humor or sarcasm.

What some conservatives/Republicans need to get through their heads is that you cannot do it just because of Obama's race or ethnic background. You can't use foul stereotypes to make your point.

Because even African-American Republicans are having to speak out on the insensitivity of what seems to pass for conservative humor and commentary. It ain't funny. It is exclusionary and painful. Maybe that is why the do it, to rally the non-POC troops to hold together until 2010.

Now according to what you said about Reagan they should not do this; they should have kept quiet about the e-mails, talks shows and blog posts that they have witness and kept it to themselves?

No, they should not. No, they can't. How can they deliver the message of conservative values if others in your party are spitting in my face?

How can I hear what you have to say when certain aspects of the conservative movement that sum up my life and other lives as nothing more than a hand out affirmative action existence, no matter who we are, what we do or achieve?

There are extremists on both sides of the spectrum. They can be ignored or corrected. But it is harder to discern what is acceptable within the mainstream conservative/Republican sphere when it comes to issues about disagreement, dialog and disrespect.

They got the disrespect part down pat.

Gena - Out On The Stoop

What I like About Frum

Nordette — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:52:21 -0500

Before I even get to his ideologies, what I like about Frum is that he doesn't waste time creating drama by defending people on the right who use hate speech with "Well, Joe Lefty did it too!" like we're all six year olds or as though by pointing out one of your opponents said something offensive too that makes your guy/girl's nonsense o.k.

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My issue is the other double standard

Erin Kotecki Vest — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:19:00 -0500

The one that didn't allow nearly this much sanity or leway when a Daily Kos blogger wrote about Palin's family. The entire Left was vilified.

Now this is just one random blogger guy on the Right? That's exactly what we all said about the one random blogger guy on the Left before. Apparently that didn't really count.

And why was it so much easier to defend Palin and get up in arms about "feminism" but there is no outrage on the right when the First Lady is attacked?

Just as lefty bloggers like Feministe and Shakespeare's Sister called out sexism against Palin, it would be nice to see the same done by bloggers on the right for Michelle Obama.

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BarbD — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:52:44 -0500

Have you ventured over to David Frum's new website? I think you'll appreciate it.

I am neither a conservative nor a Republican, but I'm hungry for common ground. Frum and his friends are part of a movement to remake the Republican Party into a more moderate, inclusive organization. I may disagree with a lot of what he says, but I also agree with a fair bit as well.

I don't know if we'll ever get back to more civil discourse. And yet, I'm not sure how we can resolve the problems we face unless we re-learn how to work together, in our larger interest.

We can't have it all, whichever side of the conservative/progressive divide. But we can resolve to talk about our differences civilly, and learn how to compromise again. This "my way at all costs" approach just isn't working.

One word: Hellzyeah.

NOfreelunch — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:35:06 -0500

"People were up in arms over this column, after retiring their "Bush is Hitler" and "F*ck Bush" placards first, of course." "Forgive me if I've somehow missed it, but it seems that respect for the office of the presidency is a new phenomena for some." Yep.

"If only there had been an equal reaction to edit out the soundbite of our president cracking a joke about the Special Olympics." Yeah. Obama apologists stuttering out ridiculous justifications on that one--even supposedly activist special needs parents! WTF?

"I'm all for vehement disagreement but I'm tired of spending the time
crafting a thoughtful message only to see or hear someone make some
idiotic "Obama go back to Africa" remark." I know. I KNOW.

"That being said, I'm equally tired of the double-standards. I'm tired
of the remarks like those in my first paragraph distracting attention
away from more important matters like our newly-quadrupled deficit.
It seems like so many of us are more embroiled in winning an argument
as opposed to winning the best future for our country, thus the
hen-pecking, the name-calling, the ridiculousness. People are going to
slip up in remarks. People are going to say ignorant things. Everyone should meet the same, single standard."

Thank you. For once I feel like someone just climbed inside my brain and put my thoughts into print.

I do wish ...

PunditMom — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:21:10 -0500

... this whole thing would stop. And to suggest that talking about people's weight is a Democrat thing? Come on. You know better than that.

Maybe the conservatives are afraid of Meghan McCain because her views aren't as extreme as they'd like. She's not a lock-step kind of girl and that never plays well with the right. And she's clearly got more on the ball than Ann Coulter ever will.

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OK, the short version of my 'take' on all this...

evilslutopia — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:59:47 -0500

1. I hate Ann Coulter, but I think Meghan McCain's criticism of her was sort of pointless. Even if she's right, it's like "oooh Coulter is too extreme? Shocker!"

2. I don't really want to defend Meghan McCain, but she's doing a pretty good job of using that last name to her advantage. So I guess you have to at least give her credit for that. Even if she doesn't have anything useful to say.

3. Meghan McCain is not plus-sized and Ingraham is an idiot for jumping to "oh yeah? well you're fat" which is just evidence that she has nothing of substance to offer to the discussion.

4. I think that Rush Limbaugh has said so many offensive things about women - particularly about their appearances, that at this point, I don't care who calls him fat. (And yes, he actually is fat, unlike McCain, who is probably the size of your average American woman).

5. Speaking of Rush Limbaugh... a week or two ago, you wrote about him and said you would respond to the alleged quotes provided by Erin if someone could offer you PROOF that they were real... We gave you audio, so are you ever going to keep your word and finally respond, or not?

~Lilith

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Well...

Whatzit — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:57:08 -0500

Why, yes, excellent point. I've even seen our esteemed author poke fun at Nancy Pelosi's dress in Twitter. Maybe not her weight, but certainly her dress.

I guess if we don't have something of substance to criticize, we turn straight to snark.

"Until this point, making

evilslutopia — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:33:15 -0500

"Until this point, making fun of people's weight was a tactic employed
exclusively by the Democrats who invoked this tactic with Rush
Limbaugh, the Palin family, the Bush twins, Cindy McCain, etc."

Ah yes, unlike Republicans, who have never ever ever made any nasty comments about the appearance of women like Hillary Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, Janet Reno, Nancy Pelosi, etc. Please.

And hey, the great thing about Twitter is that you don't have to follow anyone you don't want to follow, which means that Meghan's "umpteen-frillion" Twitter updates shouldn't be any bother for you at all.

~Jezebel

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BlogHer - republican - Comments

Are you that uninformed?

Yeah, you're totally right.

What would you call it

I'm still laughing at

"Granted, I get a sadistic

It's getting redundant

I Made No Such Promise - Wrong Is Wrong

What I like About Frum

My issue is the *other* double standard

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One word: Hellzyeah.

I do wish ...

OK, the short version of my 'take' on all this...

Well...

"Until this point, making

My issue is the other double standard