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I Agree!

Barbara-b — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:40:49 -0500

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We all walk such a fine line as women. To strong we are B___ches! Too weak, we are, well. too weak! But when it come to capable, there is no doubt when you see it. And she is not that. It turns out she is narrow minded and cannot accept or would not meet with a "sinner". I find that is very frightening. If our leaders don't sit down at the table with men like Abrams or leaders of rogue nations we will never make progress in this world.

Thank you so much for the comment.

Hubris for Boys and Girls

rebellious thinker — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:36:59 -0500

The way she presents herself, I would say that she is saying to herself: "It's about time" and not, "Oh no, this is too much." Maybe that's a good thing, to see a woman with too much self-confidence, because there really are far too many of us who don't see ourselves as capable as we are. Hubris, yes, she wears it well. But please, someone tell her that it's not the same as being capable.

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Move over Gena

Southerngirl — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:47:13 -0500

I am just not getting this whole mess I keep hearing from both sides. Bandwagon? If there is one it is broken down and missing a few wheels. You know sometimes the things that make the most sense can be said so simply. I asked an older Lady who she was voting for, She said to me that there was no way in HELL that she would hand her counry and future over to a person who graduated at the bottom of his class running with a person who has a journalism degree. She said the mess we let W get us into need some smarts to get out of.

Sadly I do not think the next president will have 8 years in office because there is no way we will get out of this crap in the next 4. And guess who we will blame next time around?

Michelle

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Wonderful news!

Maria Niles — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:31:23 -0500

I'm glad to hear you're coming to the conference and I look forward to seeing you again, as well. And I look forward to hearing more of your voice here - I am a fan of authentic and passionate!

Between a Rock and A Hard Place

Gena Haskett — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:25:06 -0500

My empathic side and my logical side are hugging each other for dear life. They are scared out of their mind. There is no question this country is seeking new united leadership. We are in a deep, troubling situation.

There is almost a psychic need for some kind of national healing or reconciliation. That is a beautiful thing but that has nothing to do with electing a president.

I have said this before and I will say it again. Who is the best person for the job of President? Not the most inspirational, not the most politically savvy and not because the person will be the "first."

But looking for the best person for the job is getting tangled by threads of race, of gender of the need to be a part of the future of the country. I don't want to disrespect anyones heartfelt or intellectual working out opinion about why they do or do not want to support a candidate. Not my job, no thank you.

I'm standing between a rock and a hard place waiting for folks to understand that when Dubya gets on the plane to return to private life the next president is going to be handed a sack of shit of trouble that will have us shasking.

I'm almost asking for a kind of political detachment. How you want to do it is fine, Tao, Zen, I don't care how you do it. But be clear and tell me and the others to the best of your ability why this person is going to effective in handling a changing American economy, international disdain and shortages in food, energy and natural resources.

Let me share the other reason for the quivers. We are starting to sound like TV pundits.

Gena - Out On The Stoop

Thanks, Maria. I know I

ByJane — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:18:29 -0500

Thanks, Maria. I know I can phrase things in forceful ways; I'm just not always aware that I'm doing it. I used to try to corral myself, but that seems so dishonest to me. So I'm saying stuff, and I'm owning it. Basically I just want everyone to like me--Virginia Woolf's angel is indeed on my shoulder!

I don't at all consider that there are no valid reasons for supporting Obama. Too many of the people I respect and love are firmly in his camp for me to even think that way. And I've had six weeks and two days to revisit my stance. I still don't support him, but I see now that my reasons for not doing so are purely emotional. Isn't that what a gut response is? I decided back then that it was too hot in the kitchen for me, obviously, so I should stay out.

I came across your comment today when--I signed up for BlogHer '08. I wasn't going to go. I felt hurt and mad and sad and rejected. But I can't not go. This has been a watershed year for me, and I'm trying my hardest to be authentic to me and no one else in my blog. Somehow that's related to going to BlogHer '08 with no goals other than...just to go. I'm looking forward to see you there!

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I'm very sorry, Jane

Maria Niles — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:37:25 -0500

I apologize if I was nasty or that I hurt or offended you. That was absolutely not my intention and I regret if anything I said kept you away from BlogHer because I value your voice and opinion.

I did feel that the tone of your post did not consider that women could have valid reasons for supporting Obama. That is how it felt to me as an Obama supporter as if it were an attack and I reacted as such.

As I've said to you before I truly hope you will participate at BlogHer (and I'll refrain from commenting in the future). And I sincerely would like to read a post about your support for Clinton. Even though I am supporting her opponent I believe that there are lots of positive reasons why others support her and I'd just like to read more about why anyone is pro-candidate rather than anti-opponent.

Jesus, Maria, I just now

ByJane — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:52:30 -0500

Jesus, Maria, I just now read your comment, and wow! I keep reading my posts and nowhere do I get why you think I'm said any of this:

"When you exhort people who support Obama to put aside their hearts and use their heads to me that is a pretty clear indication that you think we are emotional wimps who somehow aren't using their brains or are too stupid to do so. I absolutely respect your right to your perspective and your reasons for why you will not vote for Obama. What I don't appreciate is being told why I am hysterical wreck for doing so."

In fact, the reason I haven't been back to BlogHer in six weeks and two days is because I felt absolutely jumped on for stating my opinion. And that was BEFORE I read your response today! I've pretty much begged off all forays into this political year because there is such a tone of nastiness about people's responses.

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Absolutely indicated

Maria Niles — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:42:38 -0600

When you exhort people who support Obama to put aside their hearts and use their heads to me that is a pretty clear indication that you think we are emotional wimps who somehow aren't using their brains or are too stupid to do so. I absolutely respect your right to your perspective and your reasons for why you will not vote for Obama. What I don't appreciate is being told why I am hysterical wreck for doing so.

Generally, I'm tired of hearing all the reasons why we shouldn't vote for one candidate or another or in any way act out of fear (e.g. Clinton will keep us safe). I would love to hear the positive, proactive ways in which we can act.

I hope you will do the pro-Clinton post and I look forward to reading it.

I'm still embarrassed by that screed

fabooj — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:51:21 -0600

I saw Morgan's piece yesterday and I was kind of ashamed to be female after reading that. There was no logic, no facts in that piece. Pure emotions rooted in being the victim. I understand that some people wallow in that space, but it was a really sad endorsement. I do find it sad that someone is voting for someone because of gender.

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Robin Morgan: Goodbye to all that

Denise — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:14:00 -0600

Or, why she's voting Hillary

Me? I support Hillary Rodham because she’s the best qualified of all candidates running in both parties. I support her because she’s refreshingly thoughtful, and I’m bloodied from eight years of a jolly “uniter” with ejaculatory politics. I needn’t agree with her on every point. I agree with the 97 percent of her positions that are identical with Obama’s—and the few where hers are both more practical and to the left of his (like health care). I support her because she’s already smashed the first-lady stereotype and made history as a fine senator, because I believe she will continue to make history not only as the first U.S. woman president, but as a great U.S. president.

As for the “woman thing”?

Me, I’m voting for Hillary not because she’s a woman—but because I am.

~Denise
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Thanks, Denise. It does

ByJane — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:44:56 -0600

Thanks, Denise. It does amuse me to think how JFK wouldn't have gotten elected today because he made Clinton look like a choir boy. But we like to forget all that stuff when we're thinking so longingly about the good old days.

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Why I'm Voting For Clinton...

ByJane — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:42:38 -0600

You're right; I'm lacking in specifics about why I'm voting for Hillary, but the topic of my post was why I'm not voting for Obama. This was written in response to a lot I've been hearing and reading and seeing. The bandwagon, Jenna, is there in every headline that does the horserace bit between Clinton and Obama. He's on top, she's on top--ya better get in there if you want to be on top too. And, Maria, you're welcome to your perspective, as I am to mine--whether I respect your decision is a moot point, I'm sure you'll agree. There was nothing in my post that indicated otherwise, was there?

Maybe tomorrow I'll do the Clinton post.

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Where's the Bandwagon?

JennaHatfield — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:20:32 -0600

I'm not sure I get the bandwagon comment. I'm not necessarily sure who I am voting for even now but I don't really see one bandwagon. I see many. And thankfully, like the commenter (Maria) above me, many are using their heads to pick and choose amongst the candidates. If that's bandwagoning, count me in.

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I'm using my head for Obama

Maria Niles — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:16:54 -0600

Thanks for sharing your perspective, ByJane, but I would love to hear why you are for Clinton beyond an assertion she will make me safe. I'm sure you have an equally well reasoned set of support principles.

And while I'm sorry you feel it in your bones that Obama is a bad choice, it certainly is not a persuasive argument for voting against him or for voting for Clinton.

I hope you can respect that I came to the decision to support Obama by using my head. And, as it so happens, it is nice to have my heart engaged as well since it generally is not. And it certainly is not out of a longing for a return to Camelot since Kennedy was assassinated when I was a year old. Nor is it out of a misguided belief that any candidate would somehow be a perfect president. I do believe, however, that Obama is the best choice.

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