BlogHer - managers - Comments

Not sure on stats but...

paulag01 — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:00:53 -0500

Hi Jody,

I agree with you some hard and fast statistics would be great. I haven't found a quick easy source of them (though maybe they are out there!). But it is lower overall, especially at the executive ranks of Fortune 500 firms. Someone told me a stat while at BlogHer and it went out of my head...

Personally while I have had say 14 or 15 managers/supervisors (counting 2 if I had a supervisor AND manager for instance).... only 5 of them were women. 2 directors, 2 manager level, 1 supervisory/project lead level. So even in my total informal little 17 years of corporate life poll, it is like 30%. Totally unscientific of course ;-) Just a story.

How about others -- ?

Paula Gregorowicz
The Paula G Company

http://www.thepaulagcompany.com

Percent of Women Managers/Executives?

Jody DeVere -- Ask Patty — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:14:17 -0500

Wondering how many have ever had a woman manager, boss or worked for a woman executive? Statistical data suggests the probability is low overall.

I agree male or female good leadership skills are an art form that takes years of training, education and experience to be a great.

Would be a great national survey topic!

Jody DeVere
President & CEO
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I agree that it depends on the person -- not the gender

GraceGoesThruLife — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:40:58 -0500

I have to say that the best manager I ever had was a man and the worst was (sadly) a woman. So based upon my own experience, I don't agree with the statement that one gender manages better than others. For me, I think a good manager is one that is able to lead effectively and provide his/her staff with the support and guidance they need to do a good job along with providing each person new responsiblities to keep them challenged and growing in their business knowledge. But that's my own take on things.

Funny how gender complicates it all

paulag01 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:02:32 -0500

Great comments all... and I like what you add Flightkeeper that whatever gender is in the minority does have to work harder. As theomalleycats notes it is often women in that role, but in fact there are some professions where the role is reversed.

Well said Vered -- the best compliment is being known that YOU are a good manager, who really cares about the gender piece if we look at the person at what they bring to the table.

Paula Gregorowicz
The Paula G Company

http://www.thepaulagcompany.com

I agree with most of the above

Flightkeeper — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:03:37 -0500

I have had both male and female managers and had good and bad examples of both genders. I think what's more important is if your style can work with your manager's, then I'm happy. Either way I don't think gender had anything to do with it.

If there are more women managers than male managers in the work situation and vice versa I've noticed that the gender in the minority is the one who has to try harder to work the way the majority gender does.

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Also has to do with the industry...

theomalleycats — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:15:25 -0500

I've worked for both female and male managers in a traditionally male-dominated, good ol' boy industry. I enjoyed working for both genders, though it seemed that women had to work harder to get further. They also had to avoid crossing the line into territory where the men were intimidated by their power. Sigh...it was all very exhausting. Fortunately, I left this company before my female manager was "let go" for reasons I'm not completely aware of. Apparently, she ruffled some feathers. But she was damn good at her job!

It's the person, not the gender

Vered — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:25:20 -0500

I really dislike this type of generalizations. They can easily backfire. I think what we women should aim for is a world that simply does not judge people based on their gender.

I don't want to be perceived as "better" because I'm a woman. I want to be perceived as better because I'm Vered and I'm a smart, talented and ambitious person.

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hrwench — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:50:58 -0500

I used to never see "pay back agreements" (especially for executives) but lately it's becoming more popular. Yuck.

Thanks for your comment!

HR Wench

relocation

Melawen — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:42:10 -0500

Ooh - relocation is never very good. I have relocated (ok ok, relocating does go that far in the UK as the country isn't THAT big!!) twice and both times I did not ask for nor expect help from the company, mostly because I work for the National Health Service!!

However, I would say that no matter what the company I would definitely negotiate a graded solution to paying the money back, I mean how could possibly be expected to pay it back if you eventually leave the company five, ten or even fifteen years later - you've already paid the company back in the job that you do(did)!