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In Defense Of Kate Gosselin (Well, Sort Of)

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Alright, that's it. I'm actually starting to feel bad for the Gosselins. *A little*.

And believe me, that's saying something. It was just a few short weeks ago that I reprimanded them for continuing on with their show in the face of what I shall gently and tactfully refer to as, ahem, marital dischord, and in the process publicly putting their children through the emotional ringer (among other notable ringers!). Believe me, I understand that there are all sorts of reasons the Gosselins should not be doing what they are doing relative to their TLC show. Those reasons may in fact be too numerous to list at this point, multiplying daily as they are (refer to the post linked above -- I do a fair job of hitting the highlights, I think). There's very little that I think could reasonably justify continuing on with their series as they have, and I have a difficult time understanding how, as parents, they get up every day and allow the obvious dysfunction and turmoil in their household to be documented and broadcast to millions. It's a legacy their children will doubtless spend the rest of their lives grappling with and living down. I get that. I do.

HOWEVER.

This? This here is just the sort of thing that would make me stop dead in my self-righteous tracks and question myself, though the intention of those who cobbled this infotainment clip together was clearly NOT to elicit sympathy. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Kate Gosselin: (alleged) Child Beater ( I SAID ALLEGED!!!!)

There are so many things wrong with that "piece of journalism" I don't even know where to begin.

Let me start by admitting for the record that I am anti-corporal punishment. Staunchly so. I was raised, as many people born in the 60s and 70s were, in a home that still deployed "spankings" involving the use of inanimate objects as a legitimate form of parental discipline (I of course do realize people still spank their kids, but it seems to me that prior to the 1980s the culture, generally speaking, had a much more permissive attitude about the matter of smacking one's kids around). During that era corporal punishment was, if not outright expected, certainly widely tolerated, viewed as one tool among the many available to parents for correction, punishment, and altering childrens' behavior. Raised in that environment -- with parents who I believe thought they were doing what they were supposed to, had to, what was expected of them at the time -- I know first-hand how damaging corporal punishment can be. To the parents, to the child, and to their relationship. That is my experience -- I don't claim it to be everyone's, but I claim it as my own, and because of that I vowed at a very early age that I would never, ever, under any circumstances, hit my own child if I had one. And I haven't. My daughter is six years old, and has lived those six years blissfully ignorant of what it's like to have the people you love and trust most in the world raise their hands to you and strike you -- knowledge I have, and will never be able to erase.

But oh god, has it been HARD.

Kate Plus 8 enjoys a sunshine vacation without her husband Jon

And this is the truth, the truth that many parents will never allow themselves to utter aloud, even to close confidants. That we parents are human, and flawed, and can be pushed and pressed so hard and relentlessly by our adult lives -- and yes, the relentless needs and wants and psychotic tantrums of our very beloved children -- that we may find ourselves tempted to do, or even doing, something akin to what those photographs of Kate Gosselin depict. Which, and please correct me if I'm wrong here, appears to NOT be beating her daughter vigorously with a belt, but rather giving her a swat on the behind in a frazzled, breaking-point moment. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S RIGHT. But what I am saying is that I can understand it, that I empathize. And I can empathize with her and understand it because in spite of my deeply embedded and strongly held beliefs about the issue of corporal punishment, I confess that I have had to very nearly physically restrain myself at times in

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Elana Centor 5 pts

 I'm very much anti-spanking and believe the message it sends to children is not a good one.I do not believe you can maintain trust between a parent and child if the parent uses corporal punishment. That said, I do not believe it's abuse. I just believe its bad parenting.

However, the real issue for me is Leah. This was all captured on tape. It is a humiliating moment to have you mom swat your behind in front of millions of people.

This is a moment she will have to endure for the rest of her life.It's one thing to get spanked but to have it done in public is what is most upsetting to me. And it is the public nature of this act that I find unforegiveable.

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AmberS 5 pts

I am anti-spanking. And possibly anti-Gosselin. But I really dislike the way words like 'abuse' are thrown around. I lose my temper. I have certainly said and done things in tense moments I'm not proud of. I would hate to see it on a magazine cover. I think you really nailed it with this one.

I think the best thing we can do is ignore Jon and Kate. If we're not interested, there won't be a market for them. Their kids won't be dragged through the media circus. We won't have to watch their marriage dissolve in public. It would just be better for all concerned.

(Although I realize that the mere fact I'm commenting here is sort of the antithesis of leaving them alone. I guess I'm not perfect either.)

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humanbeing 5 pts

I used to spank my daughter on occasion, and it was usually out of anger. It wasn't a regular thing, because I'm blessed with a pretty angelic kid. However, we do butt heads and she pushes my buttons. The last time I spanked her, she laughed at me. So I spanked her again, hard enough to make my hand sting. She laughed more. She said it did hurt, but that me getting that mad at her was "ridiculous Momma, and you need a time out."

Mothers lose it. Fathers lose it. Especially when we're under a lot of other, unrelated stress. Such as marital problems and our spouses cheating on us. And especially when our lives are recorded every minute.

I don't particularly care for Kate. However, I think this incident is being completely overblown. Show me a parent who has never lost it and I'll show you a sitcom parent. because they don't exist.

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AllThingsToNoOne 5 pts

Swatting a child on the behind is far different than "beating" or "smacking a child around." I am not a fan of spanking, but have used it on occasion. Of course, mine are teens now and that wouldn't work, but...

Kate was right in defending herself. We have no right to judge her parenting in a private moment.

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ozma 5 pts

I swear to PBS I've never seen this show and you've got me totally obsessed with these people.

Such is your POWER, woman.

The other day I was thinking 'she is mean to her husband--how? What counts as 'mean'...am I mean to my husband in the same way?' Sheesh. Then I went on youtube trying to find some kind of video of Kate being mean to whatshisname to see if I am a horrible person like Kate. Is she getting picked on for not being what women are supposed to be? Submissive and overburdened with domestic tasks?

See what torment you have wrought in my soul?

I have never, ever spanked my child. I've rarely ever been tempted to spank her.  But you do need the absolute prohibition as a parent if you were frequently hit as a child, I think--or probably you do not but that is probably the kind of person who tends to set up so a prohibition...the person who was hit might be more inclined to vow before all that is holy never to hit their kid than the person who was not hit.

Yelling. I'm also against that.  I think that one should not yell at children and that one I have fallen down on. Basically, for me, the problem with screaming and spanking is they have the potential to demean the child and humiliate them. Not in every case though. It's just one of those fine lines you should try not to walk--but we all do, in little ways.

 The funny thing is that I did not even think about whether or not to spank. It wasn't a deep decision. I read some kind of article that said that spanking is bad for children and it made sense so I decided not to do it.I never thought of spanking as the same as hitting--like that crazy lashing out.

This swat on the behind was not a big deal and doesn't come anywhere near abuse. It also offends me that people are conflating hitting with a spank on the behind. Don't ask me to explain this now but hitting your child and spanking them once on the behind are really worlds apart. And yes, parents make their kids cry all the time. 

"Most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad."

Diogenes

KBestOliver 5 pts

I don't like them, I think the way they are parading their children around for money at the expense of their actual family is revolting.  To their credit, I don't think they really realized how out-of-control this would get and were ill-prepared for the cost of fame, but there's a point (um, when you are contemplating divorce?) where you might want to pull out the public eye by NOT BEING ON A REALITY SHOW.

That being said, I totally agree with you.  My brothers and I were spanked. Not beat.  Spanked.  We turned out fine. My husband and I will not spank, because I believe it is somewhat ineffective and, at best, only a temporary method of discipline.  But I also think that is a parent's choice, and Kate is being vilified to keep her relevent on the cover of the trash mags.

This whole thing is a hot mess, and it's the kids who are really losing out.

Feelslikehome 5 pts

Add me to the list of people who don't like Kate and Jon very much. I don't have much sympathy for them, either.

Except I lose my patience with my *one* trying toddler, and I can't imagine dealing with eight trying children all at one time. 

Tracey, I think you've given an excellent assessment of the whole situation here. It's sad the whole way around.

Colormepink 5 pts

I'm really of the mind that this is all contrived.  Maybe not the spanking part, but I have to admit I haven't seen the video and truth be told, I've only seen the show once.  I don't understand why people would subject themselves and their children to this kind of scrutiny.  That being said, there's so much of this that feels... fake. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing was a ploy for ratings.  Just as interest was waning, the whole "affair" came out and it just smacks of phony.  It's my hallucination that this was indeed a ploy and has gotten away from them. But then again, what the hell do I know?

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jodifur 5 pts

I'm no jon and kate fan (just spend sometime at mamapop to figure that out) and I'm incredibley anti-spanking.  But, as someone who has dedicated their legal career to family violence, I am offended by how quickly the term child abuser is thrown around.  I don't agree with corporal punishent and don't use it.  But, in all States but one, it is legal.

What Kate did is not illegal and is not abuse.  Is it smart?  Probably not, especially when you have a million cameras following you and a "possible" divorce ahead of you and angry custody case.  But can we please stop calling her a child abuser?  I think she exploits her children, but maybe that is splitting hairs.

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Motherhooduncensored 5 pts

I'm anti-spanking as well. Staunchly. But I get when parents (like me) lose their cool. I've plopped my kid in his crib on the not so gentle side. I've thrown something across the room (not at them, but still, not one of my finer moments). 

She's got 8 kids, and regardless of how much help she has, it's hard. I don't fault her for losing her cool. And I don't love how people are jumping over her calling her an extra terrible mom. We all make mistakes - she made a bad choice (in my personal parenting opinion). There are better ways to teach a kid without having to hit them. 

And I realize there are plenty of people that were spanked as a kid that have grown up to be well adjusted adults. 

My motherinlaw also drank and smoked while she was pregnant. My husband is mostly fine (ha). That doesn't mean it's the right choice. Or even a great choice.

What this all goes back to is when you agree to something like a reality show, this is what happens - people become voyeurs into your life. People who will now judge everything from your really bad hair to your parenting choices. It sucks for them and their kids; I only think it's going to get worse with all the affair rumors swirling. 

Personally, I'm bothered more by "serial" spankers, who make some parenting statement about how they spank out of love - like hitting their kids is a conscious, calculated discipline decision. Is Kate a serial spanker? I'm not sure. And I really don't care. But I'm not buying how this is a great parenting decision. When I yell, or let my "mother beast" out, I don't try to explain it away as a good parenting choice. 

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sweetney 5 pts

Totally agree. When M was a toddler *especially*, I'd often have to give myself 'time outs' - put her someplace safe and remove myself from her - to keep from doing something I'd regret. I never did, and I'm glad I never did, but to hysterically position a swat or two on the behind as Horrifying Child Abuse worthy of police intervention -- as the media clearly is -- is to deny fundamental realities about what it is to be a parent, how hard it is, and that we all have the capacity to make that kind of mistake. If we're all supposed to live up to some impossibly perfect ideal of parenting in which we don't make mistakes, don't lose our temper, don't have less-than-stellar parenting moments where we say and do things we'd rather not have, then we're all in Kate Gosselin's boat, and each and every one of us should be living in fear of CPS showing up at our door.

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kellyjoco 5 pts

Hear, hear. I will take it one step further even and say that I don't think Jon was justified in cheating on Kate and acting basically like a sullen teenager because Kate speaks harshly to him. Her portrayal in the media as some kind of harpy that only gives him five dollars a day is INSANE!! His comment in the clip speaks volumes to me about how he feels justified in whatever he does, because hey, public sentiment and the media back him up! I speak harshly to my husband all the time, and hey, he mans up and does what he needs to do!

ShoreBookworm 5 pts

...except it involves the lives of ten real people.

I don't watch much television.  The last thing I watched on TV actually was the Inauguration.  So I have never seen the show.  My 23 year old daughter watches it and has always given me an over view (whether I wanted one or not, lol).  And of course now, even with a huge cultural literacy gap such as mine, you can't get away from it.

So I have read both sides, from different sources.  And this is what I think.

Kate wouldn't be someone I could be bosom friends with.  But she appears to be committed to those children having a healthy, responsible upbringing.  I think she was brilliant to get herself a reality show.  The speaking, the organizing, she is really good at it.  Who are we to begrudge her?  But because she is human, she had no way of forseeing it blow up in her face.

Now there's Jon.  My daughter always told me 'she's so mean and he's so sweet'.  But what I see is she's so grown up and he's so NOT.  She's 'mean' because he is almost like another child.  He's not 'sweet', he's a passive-aggressive irresponsible little jerk. 

The spanking thing?  Oy vey.  You show me the parent who says they have never lost their temper with their child and I will show you a liar.  Of course that doesn't mean it is ok to act on that incredible imbalance of power.  But this was such a nothing!  It was effective, Mom got Child's attention, it clearly was not a pre-meditated act of violence.  It also clearly was not her preferred method of parenting and Kate probably already has coping techinques in place in her head for future occurrances. 

Luckily for all of us, we don't have the world observing all of our lapses.

These are GREAT comments by the way.  It is really heartening to read comments from mothers who are so committed to doing the best for their own children and yet are compassionate about another mother under incredible pressure.

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