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Did Jon & Kate Split Because of Race?

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Okay, this is one of those posts that even moi - race baiter that I am - is on the fence.

Like everyone and their dog, I have actually....willingly turned the channel to Entertainment Tonight to watch the real-life soap opera of the Jon & Kate + 8 saga. Unlike probably many women, whom undoubtedly feel sympathy for a middle-class single mother with 8 kids, I actually side with Jon.

Yes, he has acted like a jerk, but I have to think: If I were him and decided to leave, wouldn't I immediately want to get my party-on? Eight kids? A cold, unreasonable, controlling wife? Dude, I'd want to get a piece on the side, too ( maybe that's why I don't have kids and no husband!)

Over the past few years, I have caught a few minutes of the show, and had always thought that Jon was a brow-beaten man who secretly hated his domineering wife. Perhaps it was the stress of having so many children, but regardless, I wasn't suprised when I saw on TV that they had separated.

Anyway, a few weeks ago I came across this interesting post from Nadra Kareem at Sociological Images on how Jon's Asian heritage (and the kids) plays out. I'd always wondered how it did, but according to Kareem, the one episode where they tried to address it didn't turn out so well:

In the episode, we also learn that the children don’t understand who in their household is Korean.

“They have arguments in the car about who is Asian and who is not, and it boils down to me and Alexis are the only non-Asians in the whole house,” Kate remarks. But, on the flipside, one of the children tells Kate, “I’m Asian just like you.”In response, Kate laughs and says, “You are?”

Some of the children even wonder if their stuffed animals are Asian.

And Kate (God help her) isn't the best person to teach her children about their half-Asian heritage. in the episode the Gosselin family tries to cook an authentic Korean dinner:

Kate not only tries to prepare the food how she thinks is fit, she attempts to correct Jon’s pronunciation of Korean food, telling him that he shouldn’t shorten bulgogi to “gogi.” When he tells her that this is the equivalent of shortening hamburger to burger, she stands corrected, responding with a simple, “Oh.”

In these exchanges between the couple, it’s difficult to know what force is at play. Is Kate assuming the role of culturally superior Westerner or simply being a controlling wife? At one point, she even tries to kick Jon out of the kitchen, arguing that she needs the space.

You Offend Me You Offend My Family (funny blog, BTW) points out an interesting fact.  Jon is probably the most visible Asian-American man on television - not in the way that many of us would like to see, but unfortunately - or maybe not - , this situation has also broken some negative stereotypes about Asian people - specifically Asian men:

I’m not going to criticize a brotha who’s experiencing his first taste of freedom. If he wants to be a douchebag and party like a frat boy, hell, he probably earned it. Let him enjoy it. And if he wants to go around and fuck every young white chick he can get his hands on? More power to him. Aren’t we always bitching that Asian American men are only portrayed as asexual eunuchs in the mass media? Well, now we have an Asian brotha who’s out there fucking up a storm so shouldn’t we consider him a pioneering stereotype-buster?

There is an interesting post over at the Christianity-oriented The Thinking Housewife where they debate interracial marriages and the Gosselin family. After a commenter argued that the marriage broke up over their cultural differences, many refute this, saying that Jon was "all American:"

In this case, Jon is not a pure “Other” to Kate – he is, as Laura notes, half-Korean, half-white. But culturally-speaking he’s as American as any blonde-haired surfer dude. Just listen to the way he talks, how he carries himself. I see the inversion of gender roles in their marriage as far more relevant to their breakup than any racial differences. I don’t share Karen’s view of the “higher moral and spiritual purpose of marriage [as] preserving racial, cultural and religious tradition.” While certainly important in themselves, race and culture do not line up with morality and spirituality. And as for religion tradition, Jon &

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InkAndPixelClub 5 pts

See, I just don't think it's a matter of the gender roles being off.  Allowing your partner to have enough space when he or she is taking charge of an activity is just basic respect.  It wouldn't be any less upsetting if Jon had been the controlling one and Kate couldn't do anything without him butting in to correct or criticize.

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megmassey523 5 pts

I think that both issues of race and gender roles could have contributed to the end of this marriage.

I cringed when I watched the episode where the kids were labeling each other Asian or not Asian.  My uncle (who is probably the most Irish looking white man you could find) married a full-blooded Korean woman.  She takes the time to teach their young children about the culture, cooking them traditional meals, showing them photos from her childhood, etc.  And you know what?  My uncle is so proud of that part of their heritage, and helps my aunt whenever he can.

In the episode where Jon was trying to cook a traditional meal, it became clear that Kate couldn't even let him in control long enough to do that.  He was trying to share a part of himself with his children, trying to help them understand that being Asian is also a part of them.  When Kate stepped in and tried to tell him what to do, or corrected his pronunciation of words, she was undermining him yet again.  This is where I can see those inverted gender roles coming in.  Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that a woman is to be controlled by a man, but she should certainly respect him enough to allow him room to say or share what he'd like.

For anyone who watched the show, we all know that this was just one of many instances where Kate tried to control Jon and his behavior, and though I don't necessarily defend the fact that he is going after every woman on the planet, I can understand why he would want to escape that treatment. 

What's sad is that it will be the kids who suffer the most in all of this.  I pray that they find some sort of normalcy in all of this craziness!

micrimas 5 pts

Getting married so young, having so many kids... way stressful.  They haven't even "lived life" yet.  All they know is parenting a boatload of kids.  I know they both had successful careers (he as a computer dude, she as a nurse) prior to filming.. and she says the show enabled them to afford the kids.  Well, other families with as many kids somehow find a way.  Also, I find it hard to believe both of them won't look back and feel resentment about not having had "a life without kids".  By that I mean, they started out young, didn't travel, didn't experience their 20s like most people do... their reality was different than most people's.

I did not even address how the kids being filmed ooks me out.

The fact that they have "staged events" as Kate let slip the other day.  OK, well, if they have 'staged events" then they are not keeping it real.  Like for instance, though I barely watched the show before they melted down, I notice now they get a lot of plugs in for various things.  Hmmmm.  Like those small homes for the kids. 

Back in the 70s there was a PBS show that was a weekly documentary on this family called the Loud family (yes, that was their name).  Their son, Lance, "came out" on TV and I think that is when awareness of the G/L/B/T culture started up.  He lived it out on TV, and if I recall, the marriage melted down and the kids were hyper resentful of having had their lives played out on television.

I can't imagine their kids will look back fondly on episodes like their potty training.  And if they see how their mom treated their dad, whoah.   I parent multiples and I am a twin myself.  Though I blog about my life which includes my kids, I definitely will not be TMI'ing potty training or other sensitive stuff -- and try to be respectful of their privacy as much as I can, especially now that they are getting older.  This includes not having full face shots of them or semi-blurred photos.

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MsMelberry 5 pts

I think you hit the nail on the head on this.

I watched the show long before the drama began and I always thought Kate was a frigid B-word of a wife and a bit too anal-retentive as a mother.  Although he should have stood up to her more, it didn't surprise me when the shit hit the fan.

They married young and then added the stress of 8 children in the span of the first 5 years (or something similar) of that marriage, its no wonder what has insued.

I'm curious to see what becomes of the Gosselin children and I hope decisions are actually being made "in the best interest" of them as both Jon and Kate often say.

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SpendWiselyTexas@gmail.com 5 pts

Bizarre though, I never realise Jon was Asian. Although, I never consciously considered him white. I'm not American and to me Jon seemed extremely American. I just took a look at the site you referenced in your article and feel like I visited a whole new planet. Between reading that blog and watching a documentary on racially segregated proms last night I'm realising the world is a lot less open than I thought.

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amenopausalmom 5 pts

I never watched this show until they started having issues. I couldn't stand it. I thought they were exploiting their children and I also thought her treatment of him was cruel.

I'm not surprised they split up - I don't think race had anything to do with it, though. I believe there was too much media, too much press, too much pressure and stress on the family. Perhaps her attitude was 'an act', but that's hard to believe it could have been this way for so long. The funny thing to me now is everyone appears to side with her. After the way she treated him?

I wish they'd get off the television. I think they've done enough damage to their children as is!

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InkAndPixelClub 5 pts

Oooh, that last quote.  I think I'm going to be ill.

I agree that race was at most a very small part of what went wrong in this marriage.  But I'm not sure I trust that website to make any kind of sound judgments about who is and isn't "culturally American."  I would be very interested to hear just what it is about the way Jon "carries himself" that makes him clearly American rather than Asian.  I'm also more than a little put off by the idea that "inversion of gender roles" was the fatal flaw in this marriage.  If one member of a couple is controlling and overbearing, it is going to be a problem, regardless of that person's gender.

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micrimas 5 pts

I personally think that he is going through an early mid-life crisis and his recent interviews, it is clear he is jargoning psych talk so he is in some kind of CoDa therapy as well.   I think he did get sick of being a doormat... Kate was very cruel in her treatment of him.  I mean, I'd watch the show and cringe.  I have too much respect for my DH to ever talk to him like that.  Especially in front of the kids.  Kids learn what they live.  So they are in essence learning the girls are empowered to belittle the boys etc etc.

And yes, as bi-racial children, I am sure they will be faced with the issues that many bi-racial children face with regard to cultural identity. 

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