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What Age Is The Right Age To Talk With My Daughter About Rape?

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Private Practice

My fourteen-year-old daughter is upstairs in her bedroom listening to Shakira on her iPod and studying for a french mid-term. Me? I am downstairs watching a horrific rape scene on a television show called Private Practice and remembering the stories I have heard from family, from friends, from strangers, and wondering, when do I tell her it isn’t all peaches and cream?

I have worked hard to keep her from learning about the myriad tragedies that surround us. As her mother, I believed maintaining her childhood innocence for as long as possible was the best course of action, the best inoculation against “drugs, sex and rock and roll,” the best chance to keep my little girl a little girl just a little longer. But at what point do I teach her life is not all about her beloved soccer, the boy she has a crush on, and the upcoming high school dance? When is sheltering our children no longer the right choice? At what age, do they have the right to know?

My friend, filmmaker Michealene Risely, says for many girls, fourteen is too late. She argues that violence against girls starts early and that if my daughter hasn’t been affected, she is lucky and rare. A National Violence Against Women Survey conducted in 2000 found that of the nearly 20 percent of American women who are victims of rape, more than 50 percent of them were under the age of 17. The U.S. Justice Department estimates that only 26 percent of rapes are reported and that every two minutes someone somewhere in the United States is sexually assaulted.

Michealene knows from what she speaks. A victim herself of sexual abuse and incest, she has long been an advocate for speaking up on these issues. She says, “I often say I can clear a room just by bringing the subject up.” That didn’t stop her from devoting her life to having difficult dialogues. Her latest film, Tapestries of Hope,  addresses the extensive sexual violence against women and girls in Zimbabwe by focusing on human rights activist Betty Makoni and her organization, Girl Child Network.  

But violence against women doesn’t just happen “there.” It happens here and it happens to fourteen-year-old girls. I think it is time my daughter understood the world is a far bigger place than this home in which I have managed, so far, to keep her safe. I am not ready to show her something as graphic as the episode I watched, but I do plan to take her to see Tapestries of Hope and to begin the first of many difficult dialogues. In the meantime, have I cleared the room yet?

BlogHer Liz Rizzo has a powerful blog about bloggers and their thoughts on date rape. This alone is the best place to start on figuring out how to have this conversation. Do you have sources or ideas on how to talk with your daughters (and sons!) about rape and sexual violence. Share your thoughts in the comments below. 

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jillicious 6 pts

Read the Ob-Gyn manual. THE chapter on Rape and rapists and read psycho studies and profile behavior on the same. There are personality and religious issues that show up as well as historical views of women.

TheRealLane 5 pts

I was raped when I was 13. I now have a beautiful little girl, who's a year and half old. I cried when I found out that I was having a girl, because I was so afraid of her being raped one day and going through the hell I went through. I have often wondered when or if I should ever tell my daughter about it and this post gave me a lot to think about. Thank you.

sexydiabetic 2 5 pts

You might not be ready to have the discussion but there are people who have no morals and will do the talk without you. It is better for her to get the real information from a loving source than from the neighborhood people.

I was sexually abused consistently by my step father. My mother still worships the ground he walks on and doesn't believe me. I only wished my mother could have and the strength to tell me when a the touch is not good for me.

Quad_C 5 pts

I was taught the same. No meant No, no sex before marriage, and I do recall learning the bathing suit thing early in elementary school.

When I was raped at 17 I never told anyone. I felt guilty and dirty and disgusting and I knew that obviously I had caused it and done something wrong because it happened. I knew from then on that I was only worth rape. I was nothing. I still have not discussed it with my parents.

My husband was my first at 17 (married at 20), and he went through a rough patch and broke up with me. I actually thought (because my parents did not discuss any of this stuff except for one sit down where they said my stupid cousin got knocked up and we should never end up like her, thanks for the talk) that sex=love/caring at that time and within a month was taken advantage of (because the No means No was taught young and not reinforced over time) because I thought I could NOT say no. If I wanted someone to show me any sort of love, respect, or care, I had to let them do whatever they wanted. So I suppose that the other 3 or 4 men I was 'with' in a span of a month could be considered rape - but because I did not say 'no' (again, because I truly felt I was not allowed to do so - I was never comfortable with any of them) it was my fault that I was a horrible piece of scum.

During that month I needed to get away - I drove to my hometown and met an ex. He was one of the 4 I was with. I thought I had to because he was letting me stay at his house. I pretended it was no big deal. He introduced me to the man who raped me. He was most likely older than my father. I don't know. It was absolutely horrible.

I tend to write books so I'll stop now and just say in final agreement with mrstmpate that I too was taught the same and felt scared and guilty. I never got an actual sex talk - to this day I cannot feel comfortable talking about anything 'down there' even with my doctor. It feels disgusting and dirty. the birds & the bees should be separate from a discussion about your personal rights and both discussions should occur consistently from the time your child first goes on play dates, goes to kindergarten, will possibly be in a new situation ... all though high school until they move out.

jillicious 6 pts

Quad_C Hyper sexuality is a response behavior. Looking for answers kind of behavior. My first experience was with a man 6 years older than I was, I was twenty. He turned out to be gay with a lot of other psycho-sexual issues. I knew nothing. I went thorough similar behaviors, I actually had PTSD because the guy anger raped me. Knowledge helps one sort through the feelings sometimes. I was married to the guy for a few years which compounded the problem.

The purpose of rape is to humiliate and degrade. There are a lot of excellent books dealing with these issues!

sister_earth 5 pts

Please teach her ASAP... reasons:
----my daughter came home from school the other day and said her friend told her she was at a party and woke up in the early hours of the morning with her pants off...she does not know what happened...my daughter's friend was 13 at the time.

----I was a victim of sexual molestation by a family member when I was 11...I didn't know what to do, so I did nothing

She probably knows more than you think she does...we all want to believe our little girls have never heard these things before, but unfortunately they have.

Please check out this young lady's Facebook page if you gave not already.
http://www.facebook.com/ErinsLaw?v=app_4949752878

I wish you peace

I wish you all the best

buchipalem2 5 pts

Raising a child is probably the most gratifying job any of us will ever have—and one of the toughest. We live in an increasingly complex world that challenges us every day with a wide range of issues that can be difficult for children to understand and for adults to explain to them.

pixiedust8 5 pts

My daughter is 3, and I'm starting to talk to her about good touch/bad touch, although I can tell it's not really sinking in.

I agree that it shouldn't be positioned as scary, but as empowering to take control of your own body.

My friend was "date" raped at a party when she was 15 and we were in high school (and I went to a very expensive private school), so my daughter will be well armed with information about being cautious and about the fact that drinking can alter the way other people behave and the way she behaves.

plogan721 6 pts

I agree, it is never too early. I would start at age one about "good touch, bad touch". My sister is already telling her children (boy 3, girl 2) that know has the right to touch them without permission.

jenn-adou 5 pts

I believe in being honest with my kids. I don't need to embellish, just the "facts" will do. I want them to be prepared, strong, and able to cope and I don't think they could do that if I were to "fuzzify" current society & culture. More importantly, if they don't learn how to live in the world from me, someone else will do it and then who knows what rubbish will be put in their heads.

fouragainsttwo 7 pts

I have four girls ages 11, 10, 8, and almost 6. We have always talked about bad touches/good touches/that some people want to hurt kids and all that stuff.

This past weekend my 10 year old gave out her school name and the name of our town online. To another "girl" who asked. It most likely was another "girl" since it was YourSphere and I have been impressed with the site, but you never know. We have told here over and over and over again:Never give out information online. She did the tween attitude thing with the eye rolling. Her dad talked to her about our sex offender neighbor and how he was caught trying to meet a girl on line (all of this she already knew). It wasn't getting through to her.

I took her into her room, her dad came as well, and I flat out told her what rape was. I spared no words. I think it made an impact. Maybe she now knows that "bad touches" are not just little tickling moves and gropping.

We had already had several talks about sex and puberty, but I had always portrayed it in a loving, wonderful thing light.

I hope I did the right thing, but I saw no other way around it. 10 seems young but she looks 14 and is menstruating already.
Oh yeah, she is off the computer for a while.
Mandy W.

FourAgainstTwo.com

realhartford 5 pts

I don't think anyone is doing anybody else any favors by trying to preserve innocence.

I knew about sex, rape, assault, what have you, before age ten. Because I was not shielded from these things as concepts, I feel like I was better equipped to handle various situations as a teenager. Instead of being treated as if I were fragile, my mother instilled in me a sense of strength very early. I knew not to ever let anyone trample on my rights.

If I ever have children, I plan to inform them about reality as soon as they can comprehend it, so that they can make the best choices for themselves and hopefully avoid trauma and years of therapy.

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Rose Leigh 5 pts

I think the chances are good she knows the basics. My brother just turned 13 and was more than happy to tell me how much he already knew about sex, including rape, homosexuality, phone sex, and - get this - text message sex. I was floored. So were my parents when I told them. When I started thinking back to my "talk" with my parents eons ago I realised that, at the time, I already knew as much as he did from media and friends. Most likely, if you give her the chance to tell you what she knows already, the conversation will surprise you and go a lot smoother than you thought possible.

JennaHatfield 18 pts

I was sheltered. Big time. I understand what my mom was doing. But it worked against me -- not just that almost time but in so many other ways as I grew older and out from under her protective wings. I don't hold it against her. I "get" it. But I don't believe I'll be handling it the same way.

Considering I had a large number of friends having consensual sex at fourteen, not knowing about rape seems like it could be a set up for something awful. I was only allowed to go to group parties -- chaperoned ones at that -- at that age. But things still happened when parents made a pop run or while we took walks into the woods and so on.

It's never too early. It can be too late.

Contributing Editor Jenna Hatfield (@FireMom ( http://twitter.com/FireMom )) blogs at Stop, Drop and Blog ( http://stopdropandblog.com ) and The Chronicles of Munchkin Land ( http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com ). She is a freelance writer and newspaper photographer.

Lisen Stromberg 5 pts

Such an important point. Our sons need to learn that a) they can be victims, b) they can be advocates for friends who have been raped, and finally c) they can know when No means No.

Thanks for the reminder!
Lisen
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Liz Henry 5 pts

I agree with Mary here, it's never too early.

Talking about your personal experiences or times you've helped a friend go through rape or assault and its aftermath might be helpful. You might also talk with her about what she would do if one of her friends were harassed, assaulted, or raped. By teaching her how she could support someone she knows who goes through this, she will also have the tools to respond and she may spread that knowledge through her social circle.

I don't think that you have to watch a movie that plays out a rape graphically on screen to do that (and in fact that may just perpetuate fear without offering any solutions or good responses.)

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Lolitia 5 pts

I'm not sure, my mom disclosed her sexual assaults and rapes to me when I was seven. I'm not sure how wise that was but it's an ugly thing and can happen to any child. Ten maybe? Eleven? It's difficult it's ugly but rape has no boundaries and it doesn't apologize so kids should know.

Alison Golden 5 pts

I have sons and have also had the 'your body is your own' discussion starting at five to use, we attended a workshop on body space, words, defensive actions and now they're ten, this post has been a good reminder that it is time to do the workshop again with updated age appropriate material. I'm hot on this because my parents never mentioned anything about this to me and I got myself in some situations as a young woman that I could have avoided if I'd been better prepared.

Alison Golden writes at The Secret Life Of A Warrior Woman ( http://alisongolden.com )

mrstmpate 5 pts

Starting early is a great key, but many don't continue and let the message grow as the child grows.

I was taught that you weren't suppose to have sex before you were married and No meant No. But, that didn't help when I was raped at 16. I knew that it was wrong what he had done, but didn't know how to start processing any of it. I was so terrified of getting into trouble that I never told, and still to this day my parents don't know.

For me having no means no, added into the other sex talk conversations made me feel guilty for something that wasn't my choice. I think its a conversation that should be separate from the birds and the bees.

t.pate

http://mommafesto.blogspot.com/

Lisen Stromberg 5 pts

Sounds like the time is now. Alyssa,
I will post your great piece of advice on my blog and FB it as well. Thanks!

Lisen
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alyssaroyse 5 pts

Actually, here's one on date rape too. http://alyssaroyse.wordpress.com/2010/01/06/date-r...

And, really, if you go to my blog and search for "rape," you'll find a lot of articles and blog entries. And no, they're not all depressing and scary, at all. I hope they're quite the opposite.

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alyssaroyse 5 pts

Mary is absolutely correct. It is never too early to teach our children about rape. You don't position it as "there are scary people out there who will hurt you." You start with, "it's your amazing body and NOBODY can touch it if you don't want them to."

You teach them to identify and listen to that "feeling" they have when something isn't right. You make sure they know that they can always talk to you, about anything, and won't be met with fear, shame and overreatcion.

As a rape survivor (at 16) and a rape counselor for many years after that, and a mother of a daughter, these have been part of our dialog forever. Ironically, in all my talk, I apparently forgot to mention to my daughter that I had been raped, which led to an interesting conversation.

In any event, I wrote a "how to" guide for talking to kids about sexual assault for parents in my city following the arrest of a well-known adult in the community for child rape. It's a very no-nonsense guide to talking to kids - how and why. Please feel free to link and use however you wish.

http://alyssaroyse.wordpress.com/2010/01/06/talkin...

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Mary E. Ulrich 5 pts

As a preschool teacher we used to teach the children that no one had the right to touch them in the areas that were covered by their bathing suits.

Their body belonged to them, and no one else had permission to touch them unless they said so.

If anyone wanted to touch them, or if they just didn't feel right around some people, they should immediately tell their parents or someone they trusted.

If someone wanted to touch them and tell them to keep secrets, then they should run to their parents immediately. This was a time to speak up--not keep secrets.

We told them that Doctors sometimes needed to see if they were sick and check them in the areas under their bathing suits, but their parents would always be there to give the okay.

They had the right to protect their body.