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Discipline an Older Teen? My Son and the Get-Out-of-Jail Sheet

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You may have heard that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly but expecting different results. From that reference point, I decided I needed to change how I disciplined my teen son or run away from home, and I also needed to answer one question: Is it ever too late to teach a teen the right lesson?

What had I been doing? For years I had been handing out penalties like no TV, no Internet access, no video games for X amount of time.

What had he been doing? For years he had been committing various infractions, doing his time, and then returning to a life of careless disobedience and mindless endeavor only to enter a new punishment cycle a few weeks later. He was being a teen.

But "something has to give!" I screamed to myself this past November. My son was 17 at the time, soon to be 18 and all I could see was "this is my last chance. He'll be graduating soon, possibly going away to college. I've got to break this immaturity unless I want a big college bill and no diploma from him or maybe worse ..." Mothers can always imagine the worst.

For clarification, my son is not what you'd call "a troubled teen," meaning he doesn't do drugs; hasn't caused me to report to a police station to bail him out; his grades are okay most of the time; and generally, he's respectful. I count that as a blessing, not anything attributable to my parenting skills, but God's providence. And yet I fear for his future: will he be able to care for himself, hold down a job, make reasonable decisions? (If you want to read more about how he's frustrated my motherly aspirations, you'll find elaboration at my blog.)

I fear for his future because I see how this world speeds along, only accommodating success for those who work hard and keep its pace. For a black man, the struggle may be more challenging. My son is black.

Anyway, despite seeing when he was a toddler that he required more structure and discipline than I gave to my daughter, I never got around to teaching him that to my satisfaction. I didn't go for high-activity schedules nearly chiseled in stone, the set chores always enforced, the consistency on paper and in the real world. It takes self-discipline to enforce such things. How can you instill in another what you yourself lack? And so, in November of last year, after he'd plucked my nerves by not doing something I'd told him to do more than thrice, panic overtook me, and I meditated a while. Later, I called him in, sat him down, and handed him my salvation: a "get-out-of-jail sheet."

The Get-Out-of-Jail Sheet

Sounds harsh, a tool designed to stir terror about a potential dark future, but if the fictional Ghost of Christmas Future can scare Scrooge straight, why not a real mother her son? My son knew from whence I came. He'd heard my lectures often, discussing how African-Americans, especially males, are at a high risk to end up in prison, and it's an easier end to meet than you might think, even for a middle-class son if he's not careful.

All it takes to come to a bad end is an unwillingness to believe you'll face consequences for your actions. Believe that one too many times and you may face certain peril -- if not with the law, then with your boss, if not with the boss, then with a mate, if not with a mate, perhaps with a credit card company. Parents of all races can testify to that.

I told him that while I didn't see jail in his future--unless he acted with extreme stupidity or was so unwise as to be in the wrong place with the wrong people at the wrong time--I did see a life of binding mediocrity and an unhappiness with self if he didn't stop fooling around with time. Time is fleeting, and through its misuse we build our own prisons.

I also told him that the only job of a parent after protecting a child from harm is to prepare a child to take care of him or herself honestly once the child is grown. If the child does not understand how the world works and cannot fend for

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mom with no more patience 5 pts

Nordette,

you have described my son to a Tee. He is a junior in HS and lazy as can be. I tell him constantly what to do. He does chores reluctantly, and scribbles away his homework. He is  a good kid but the attitude and disrespect toward me and his step-dad is awfull. We took everything away and he is making us feel like we are the meanest parents, unfair. But he won't push hard enough to change or regain his priviledges. So maybe we can try your sheet. The only problem is I do not think he will continue this sheet thing after the first round. He is not motivated. He seems not to care anymore if he has everything taken away, yet always sneeks tv time, or finds a way to get into the computer somehow (hacks password). He drives me bonkers with the tude. Help. I need a get-out-of-jail sheet.

akramesh 5 pts

Nordette-  you may well be my salvation. My son is 16 and 'not a bad kid' either. Everyone tells me to be thankfully for what I have, good grades, no drugs, no drinking. But I have your fears - if he can't learn some time management and follow through he won't be in a first or even second rate college. He will get into whatever accepts him. His father and I sacrafice quite a lot for his education but I think he now just expects it. To some extent he can't see what our life is like and I don't want him too either, but.....I am pulling myself together to make my own get-out-of-jail sheet or in our case -win-your-lap-top-back sheet. College is at stake and unfortunately with that sets a lot of your life. It can be overcome but it is a WHOLE lot harder when you are older! I know.

So what are your updates? how is your son doing? and how are the college applications going?

Alyson

larraine 5 pts

Larraine Formica

It's hard to be the tough guy, but you have to do it. 

madwhitewoman 5 pts

I have to say, I am so glad I found your post here hon!  My son is a mini-me version of your son.  He's only 9 years old but you've described him to a T in this post and your previous posts on your blog about your son.  I am definitely going to give this a go with my little guy...not to mention working on the self-discipline for mom.  I tend to give them "yes" answers when they should get "no" answers as well when I'm distracted (translation = on the computer) and they know this.There are some days when I just don't FEEL like putting my foot down and I let things go with the two of them, but all too quickly they are grown up and we are left wondering, where did the time go?  I can't believe my son is nine already...it feels like just yesterday when I brought him home from the hospital.Thanks so much for this post!

digyd 5 pts

You think YOU need more discipline in order to teach him discipline? Looks like you did a really good job of it! I'm the same in knowing that my children need to do better than me in some things - like discipline - and what your post shows me is that I have to do things the creative way in order to make it something I will stick to and something my kids can benefit from as well.

Thanks for reminding me not to be a lazy parent!

Monica

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DonnaFreedman 11 pts

....I'd shake your hand and buy you lunch, Ms. Nordette. I am so impressed by the way you handled this. I hope other parents see it; to that end, I'm going to forward the URL to a few parents I know.

nettalyce 5 pts

Nettalyce

This was a very valuable post.  I am the mother of a challenging, intelligent, overactive  6 y/o son who constantly tests the limits.  I often find myself wandering if I am right in sticking to my guns regarding rewarding appropriate behavior and giving consequences for negative behavior.  I make sure to love him as much as possible in-between.  Your post is confirmation of our job as mothers to prepare them for the real world.  I was also struggling for an idea for the next session of a parenting group I am developing.  I was growing weary of parenting approaches that suggest that negative behavior should never be addressed via natural consequences.  Thanks a bunch and remember that ultimately your son will value all that you have sown into him and he will benefit from your valuable lessons.

liveandlearnthehardway 5 pts

I will have to try this with my own son.  He has been difficult, but it seems that this just might work.  Congratulations on sticking to your guns.  I know from experience that it isn't easy.

Nordette Adams 11 pts

My daughter was easy and remained easy.  So, you may have lucked out. :-) However, I did have to watch my daughter for more subtle issues like not asking for help when she needed it. She's more self-contained, tends to be a logical thinker.

Thank you for taking time to coment.

Nordette ( http://blogher.org/blog/nordette ) is a BlogHer CE, personal blog WSATA ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com ). Also @ Twitter ( http://twitter.com/nordette_verite ).

Nordette Adams 11 pts

Renée, I took that as a sign the sheet worked, when he asked to keep it up, and so far he's doing pretty good at it without my taking privileges away.

Nordette ( http://blogher.org/blog/nordette ) is a BlogHer CE, personal blog WSATA ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com ). Also @ Twitter ( http://twitter.com/nordette_verite ).

Nordette Adams 11 pts

Get real could probably be a parental battle cry. :-) Thank you for commenting.

Nordette ( http://blogher.org/blog/nordette ) is a BlogHer CE, personal blog WSATA ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com ). Also @ Twitter ( http://twitter.com/nordette_verite ).

Nordette Adams 11 pts

I haven't read parenting books since my first was a baby, and so, no, I had not heard of the logical consequences model.  However, I came across it while finding links for this post.  I think one of the links at the end mentions it. 

Neither have I read the books about raising black sons, but I keep telling myself I should read them.  I tend to toss ideas around with friends, one who has sons around the same age as my son and another who has sons in their 20s so has been through what I'm going through already.  One of her suggestions to break boys of the "I forgot" excuse, she told me, was to mirror it back.  She said when her sons would ask her to do stuff for them, she started saying, "Yeah. Sure."  About a week later when they asked why she didn't do it, she'd answer, "Oh. I forgot."  They caught on quickly and started doing what was asked on a faster timetable.

I like the garbage in the room. LOL.  

Nordette ( http://blogher.org/blog/nordette ) is a BlogHer CE, personal blog WSATA ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com ). Also @ Twitter ( http://twitter.com/nordette_verite ).

Nordette Adams 11 pts

I've heard stories like yours before where the teen thinks it's easy to get over on the parents.  It's good you're catching it early and I know it will be hard, but when he's older he'll appreciate it.

Nordette ( http://blogher.org/blog/nordette ) is a BlogHer CE, personal blog WSATA ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com ). Also @ Twitter ( http://twitter.com/nordette_verite ).

Nordette Adams 11 pts

I tried to get my son involved in a service program when we were in Jersey, but life was pretty hectic during the divorce.  And then when we moved to Louisiana, he missed the deadline for the program the first year.  The next year I forgot because my parents were living with me, but he ended up volunteering for events at school and he had to help a lot with my mom and dad.  I think it's been a learning experience for him.

I agree, serving others builds character and I'm glad that more schools in the states are making it part of their program.  I would recommend to any parent. Kudos, Lia.

Nordette ( http://blogher.org/blog/nordette ) is a BlogHer CE, personal blog WSATA ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com ). Also @ Twitter ( http://twitter.com/nordette_verite ).

MrsWsKitchen 5 pts

I swear I could pile the trash up in the doorway and he'd just move a few bags aside and walk right by!

This is why it's so important for moms to train their kids--because those kids eventually become husbands, wives, partners.

I'm really enjoying all the comments on this thread... we're trying to conceive and it's good to learn parenting tricks for down the road.

Amanda
Mrs.W's Kitchen ( http://mrswskitchen.blogspot.com )

Lia 5 pts

I found your description of the process facinating. Good for you and good for your son.

My son is about the same age as yours. Fortunately, he started getting involved in social help programs when he was 13 years old or so. He was asked by a teacher in his school to train as a mentor to younger students (high school starts in grade 5!) in their youth mentoring program. Then he qualified as a first aid assistant. Then a St. John's Ambulance aid. And things took off from there. All of these activitities were instigated and carried through with a tremendous amount of engagement and responsibility (e.g. travelling to ex-Russia and setting up a natural catastrophy center youth first aid program). They have contributed also in helping him develop into an engaged and responsible young man.

I didn't know how character building such activities would be five years ago. In the end, I think what was so imporatnt was how he learned not always to look out for No. 1. Needless to say, my 13-year-old daughter is following in her brother's footsteps.

lia from luebeck, germany

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Unexpected Bliss 5 pts

You handled  this beautifully. My son is only 13, and he's a good student, pretty well behaved - for other adults - and has never been in trouble.  But because of those things, we've been letting our rules kind of slide, to the point where the line in the sand has been moved so many times we can't even find it! My son mentioned a friend of his who has many more restrictions and rules, and my son said he's so glad that we "can't" do that to him! After I picked my jaw up off the floor, I realized that we'd been so busy rewarding him for being a good student and good kid we had given him the impression that he is in charge of himself. Which is so not the case.

For a 13 year old, at least my 13 year old, the biggest consequence is to lose his phone. He mistakenly thinks he owns his phone, and has been ignoring the rules and limits we have set regarding the phone. I shut off the texting once,  because he didn't believe I could.  But he's still ignoring our phone limits, so I'm taking it away indefinitely and he'll have to earn it back.  This will be a painful consequence for the whole family, cause he will not accept it quietly.  But I know it's what has to be done, or I'll end up with an out of control teenager. It's hard though, to do what needs to be done. It's so much easier to keep letting things slide.  I admire you for doing what you needed to do for  your son.  I hope I can do as well as you have.

 Sheri

Candelaria Silva 6 pts

Great post, Nordette.  What you're doing reminds me of the "logical consequences model - ff you do this, this will happen.  If you don't do this, this will happen." 

I remember once putting the garbage in my son's room for a week because he kept forgetting to take it out.  He never forgot after that.

I also refused to cook if the kitchen wasn't clean and left it to the two teenagers of work out their own schedule of who and when.  After seeing me order a sub from our favorite take-out place and eat every last bit of it in front of them, they realized I wasn't playing.

Don't know if you ever read any of Jawanza Kunjufu's books on raising black children.  One of the lines he had in his book resonated with me and made me start adapting my style, "Black mothers raise their daughters but love their sons."  It is so easy to let sons slip and slide through. 

As you said, as a responsible parent, you've got to prepare them to be on their own two feet.  (I am so glad my children are grown and fully-launched.  It was rought and wonderful and exhausting.  Hang-on for the young adulthood phase - the stakes are even higher.)

blog.candelariasilva.com

Good and plenty!

Karen Walrond 5 pts

My daughter is only 4, and is relatively easy to handle -- which makes me believe that there is NO WAY I'M GOING TO BE THIS LUCKY when she's a teenager.  I'm saving this.  I'm so saving this.

Thank you for sharing!

K

ReneeJRoss 5 pts

I especially love the fact that he asked to keep the sheet. That is amazing to me. I am taking notes because I know before long my son will need such a system.
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Carrie Blankenship 5 pts

It is never too late to be "mom" and I'm going to save this post and gleen all of your wisdom from it.  Thank you so much and I, for one, think you're raising a remarkable young man who will understand the expectations of the real world.  What a gift!

Carrie at Stop Screaming I'm Driving! ( http://stopscreamingimdriving.com )

Nordette Adams 11 pts

I've tried straight talk and I'm backing it up with straight action because I don't think he listens to me.  Teens are experts at tuning out parents.

Belinda, thanks for the insightful comment and for sharing personal experience.

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Nordette Adams 11 pts

Thank you, Julia.  From what I can see, it's working.  I think my son has to go to the school of hard knocks. He gets that from me. Ugh!

Nordette ( http://blogher.org/blog/nordette ) is a BlogHer CE, personal blog WSATA ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com ). Also @ Twitter ( http://twitter.com/nordette_verite ).

Nordette Adams 11 pts

Our generation, Mir, has heard so much about not going "negative" but sometimes, you've got to do what you've got to do. :-) Each child is different.  My daughter was a piece of cake.  My son has been a tough piece of meat.  And they both came here with those temperaments. I'm sure of that.  Thanks for commenting, Mir.

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Nordette Adams 11 pts

Haha. Megan, I think mothers need a little Patty Hewes in them sometimes. ;-)

Nordette ( http://blogher.org/blog/nordette ) is a BlogHer CE, personal blog WSATA ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com ). Also @ Twitter ( http://twitter.com/nordette_verite ).

Nordette Adams 11 pts

I falter on sticking to my guns if I'm distracted.  I learned when he was little that this child makes great puppy dog eyes; so, the "please, pretty please" doesn't work on me. However, he's smart and learned that if he asks me for permission to do something while I'm busy, he may get a "yes" from his distracted mother when he should get a "no."  So, I've learned to listen carefully when he asks me anything while I'm working.

Thank you, Angela.

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Nordette Adams 11 pts

I'm glad you enjoyed it, Amanda, and thank you for taking the time to tell me so.

Nordette ( http://blogher.org/blog/nordette ) is a BlogHer CE, personal blog WSATA ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com ). Also @ Twitter ( http://twitter.com/nordette_verite ).

Nordette Adams 11 pts

The same child tried my stamina the morning after I wrote this. LOL.

But he also did the chores on his list, so I'm still ahead.

Thank you for your comment, Melissa. 

Nordette ( http://blogher.org/blog/nordette ) is a BlogHer CE, personal blog WSATA ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com ). Also @ Twitter ( http://twitter.com/nordette_verite ).

Creatively Belle 5 pts

I fear my mother had similar concerns with me - although she did things in her own way (as always - I wonder where I get it from?) - but moving away to university did me a world of good because I had to stand on my own two feet.

I wasn't about to face going home with any failed classes and that was probably a saving grace for me for buckling down and doing my work when I needed to. But what university did for me was make a woman out of a girl.

I also was lucky enough to have some other adults outside of the family take an interest in sitting me down and giving me some straight talk - advice that made a big difference and was probably the same as what my folks were telling me but from different people and in different ways.

Straight conversations are so important in life so well done.

All the best,

Belinda

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MidwestMom 5 pts

You are a strong mom!

My children are younger now, but I so appreciate you taking the time to talk about the way you're helping your son.  You're right.  It is about getting him ready to do for himself.

He may not exactly feel it when he's "in jail", but the Lord has blessed him to have you as his Mother.

Julia at Midwest Moms ( http://midwestmoms.blogspot.com )

Mir Kamin 15 pts

I want to be you when I grow up, Nordette! :)

I've had similar experiences with my kids, where positive reinforcement sort of loses its shine and then they go back to slacking. The added step of then adding on a negative consequence was sheer brilliance. I'm taking notes.

--
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Megan Smith 5 pts

More parents need to toe the line like you did. 

Kudos!

Megan
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Angela Tseng 6 pts

Way to stick to your guns!

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MrsWsKitchen 5 pts

What a refreshing read!  Well done. Really, really well done. 

Amanda
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missmelissa41076 5 pts

What a fantastic idea!!! I love how you handled the situation. I have thought for a long time that taking things away, while a good idea, doesn't always work to help the child correct the behavior. It has to mean something. Looks like this did! :)

Melissa

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