Do We Listen To Female Recording Artists (Or Even Their Fellow Fans)?
by kperfetto

I guess an easy answer would be some do, but many still don't. Granted, I have only anecdotal evidence, but it doesn't surprise me while digging through some of my last.fm contacts music libraries, I found that male artists far outweigh female ones.

(I actually did some tallying up -- because I am a nerd like that. It was around 5% at the low end, and 25% at the high.)

Of course, it's no secret that female recording artists get the shaft unless you are young, beautiful and heavily promoted.Jezebel's response to a Times Of London article on the concept of "musical genius" earlier this year:

The Times of London writer claims that Rufus Wainwright gets plied with the "genius" accolade frequently, while similarly blessed female musicians like Kate Bush, Bjork and Goldfrapp are not given the genius label. Um, Jane? Goldfrapp? You're really arguing that Goldfrapp is a "genius?" Maybe the term genius is being tossed around entirely too frequently, regardless of gender.

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I checked out the Billboard Hot 100, and as five of the top ten albums are by women, maybe we need to lament the lack of "genius" females in music writing, not music making... Yes, 50% of the top selling artists this week are female, but they're all, to a woman (Rihanna, Natasha Beddingfield, the abhorrent Katy Perry, etc.) beautiful, under 25, and singing pop. Several of them do not write their own songs, and their popularity is largely driven by their packaging, not their music.

With image being at such a high premium, and women being more susceptible to attacks on their image, it's easy to see why so many talented female artists fall through the cracks. But what does this all mean to those of who have long-prided ourselves on eschewing glossy, cookie-cutter pop stars for something more organic? Not much. Indie rock has long been a boy's club, and speaking from personal experience, it doesn't get much better on the fan-end. Apparently, the internet isn't the great equalizer it should be. Nancy Baym from Online Fandom says of women music fans and the online experience:

Meanwhile, music on and offline is as much of a boy’s club as it’s ever been. When I worked in a record store (the only woman who worked at that store), almost all of our customers were male, and all of the ones who came in and dropped tons of cash on large stacks of records and later CDs were. Women in bands are expected more than ever to be sex objects as well as singers (have a look at coverage of the most recent American Idol if you doubt that). But few and far between as women in bands are, fewer and further between are women behind the counters at record stores, working at record labels, acting as managers (let alone producers or engineers), and working behind the scenes at “Music 2.0” sites. We can’t expect the internet to overcome a playing field that unlevel to begin with.

The closest parallels can be drawn from the gaming world, another "old boys' club":

For those of you who haven’t been around the past few years listening to me rant about the gender issue, let’s just say that there’s been a pattern of fanboys ignoring fangirls, of male scholars dismissing and ignoring our interests or, when discussing the same material, our outlook and insights.
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My own experiences online and off have followed the same pattern. There's always that feeling of "proving yourself worthy" before you are accepted, something most women have faced especially those who dare to enter a "boys only" zone.

I've always wanted to ask other female music fans this: do you feel talked down to or marginalized in the presence of fanboys? Has the internet been the great equalize it was supposed to be?

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Thanks Kperfetto

Have you heard of the Lilith Fair, a concert series that features female music artists?

I just heard about it today at The New York Times.

Nordette Adams is a BlogHer CE & you can find her other stuff through Her 411.

 

They aren't allowed to talk down to me.

They're not (most of them) in the top 100, but a lot of worthy men aren't either:

Jenny Lewis

Dar Williams

Neko Case

Patty Larkin

Patty Griffin

Rosanne Cash

Shannon McNally (check her out, not as well known as she ought to be.)

Tift Merritt

I could go on and on. All have viable careers. There are a bunch more.

I managed a music department in a chain bookstore. All of my staff members were male. We all liked different stuff. Some of my male friends are my primary sounding boards about and suppliers of music. My dad and I like a lot of the same bands but my mother - not a performer but a hardcore Motown and 70s rock fan - introduced me to most of what I listened to until I was able to choose it on my own. I don't think I've ever set my male friends up in my mind as a club or the fans who knew what they were talking about, but that's probably reflective of the fact that I don't allow for that kind of discrimination at all. If someone were to treat me like that we wouldn't be friends and I surely wouldn't care what he thought about music. 

I know just as many "fangirls", if by that you mean women who love music, as I do guys, but that could just be because I'm drawn to people who love music and a lot of my activities revolve around listening to it and seeing it live. I think in some cases we're talking about very narrow strata here - dudes who rep indie rock really hard or maybe hip-hop or metal.And I'm not involved on an academic level, where if we're going to ponder it there, male dominance is no different in this discipline than in any other, sadly.

Jazzheads used to have the ability to make me feel stupid until I freed myself by deciding that I just didn't care that much about jazz on the usual encyclopedic level of knowledge that a lot of fans have. I will ask questions though, if I'm moved to, mostly about Charles Mingus and Miles Davis who I really really like for the most part.

Then again I was at early Lollapaloozas and Metaliica shows with my (mostly, at the time) guy friends. I think a lot of times it's just what you'll take from people and the other fans you run into along the way. Women, honestly, just need to show up and refuse to be discounted as consumers and fans

Laurie

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Jazz fan here

Across all lines of music, women are in the second tier as far as opportunities go. Look at any band. Male musicians are the overwhelming majority. Vocally, on the jazz side, the numbers and the faces get different. Much less pop-culture-pretty for both men and women. The vocal people of jazz are not so much involved with looks as with sound.

 

Some fave jazz women :

Abby Lincoln, Billy Holiday, Betty Carter, Nina Simone, Rosemary Clooney, Blossom Dearie, Morgana King, Diane Schuur, Etta James, Rebecca Parris, Anne Hampton-Calloway, Sarah Vaughn, Ella Fitzgerald, Carmen McRae.

 

 

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