Super delegates, pledged delegates, automatic delegates, miracle delegates... 2008 is the year of delegate madness in both the Democratic and Republican races for their party's nomination.
Relatively few voters participate in the nomination process and much fewer still are involved in the the business of the party. Also, in recent election history, nominees have been chosen relatively swiftly and thus the specifics of party rules are generally not apparent to anyone outside of party officials. However, the very close race between Senators Clinton and Obama and the Quixotic quest of Governor Huckabee have thrust arcane party rules to the forefront of election '08.
Let's start with the Republican side. On the campaign trail today, Mike Huckabee is explaining how 'Huckamath" works. His logic is, if he can win Texas he can deny Senator McCain the ability of arriving at the convention with enough delegates to claim the nomination outright, the nominee will then be made at the convention and by virtue of his superior conservative record, he will be chosen as the Republican nominee. Huckabee points to the fact that delegate count totals vary by media outlet as an indication that McCain's delegate superiority is not as sure as it might seem.
Earlier, Huckabee said "I didn't major in math, I majored in miracles." BlogHers are a tad skeptical of Huckabee's Course in Miracles:
Jill Zimmon of Writes Like She Talks says:
When it comes to who I want to be the president and how I’d want them to govern, miracles as a general proposition for how to get things done just doesn’t cut it.
Kim Winter of From Where I Stand offers:
Well, Mike, I didn't major in math either, but when I was in college learning how to teach children math (Thanks Dr. Williams) we learned how to use manipulatives to help children understand. So here's an activity that might help with the math issue: put 825 M&M's on a plate (for McCain) and 240 M&M's on a plate (for Huckabee) and see who has more M&M's. I know a group of toddlers who would understand if Mike is interested in extra help.
The delegate situation on the Democratic side is far more complicated.
Let's begin with a bit of a civics lesson. Many voters are upset by various aspects of the nominating process and role of delegates that have come to the forefront this season. Political parties are private parties. You have no constitutionally guaranteed voting rights with regard to political parties. They get to decide the rules and enforce the rules and Democrats are not democrats. So those of you voters who participate in the party's business no further than voting and who are upset with caucuses vs. primaries, non-seated delegations, late primaries that generally don't count or the other party messing you up by moving up your primary date - your main recourse is to get involved with the party and change the rules and to vote the other party out (I'm looking at you Florida).
On to the current controversy and confusion.
As Mike Huckabee points out, who has how many delegates depends on which media outlet you are checking so it's difficult to get even basic information precisely. The New York Times explains how they are calculating Democratic delegates.
Pledged delegates are those delegates elected to vote for a particular candidate at the convention. Pledged delegates however are not bound to vote for whom they are pledged. Thus there were some trial balloons floated about the idea of pursuing pledged delegates should the nomination decision make it to the convention. However, pledged delegates will likely all vote for the nominee should he or she be chosen prior to the convention. Otherwise they votes will be pursued just like those of super delegates.
The super delegate system came into being after the nominations of George McGovern and Jimmy Carter. They were perceived as more liberal and outsiders not in the mainstream of the Democratic party and so a system of party elders was enacted in order to provide wisdom and guidance to ensure candidates perceived as more viable would gain the nomination. For instance, ensuring the nomination of Walter Mondale rather than Gary Hart in 1984.
Super delegates were created specifically to apply their wisdom in order to choose a nominee that the party perceives as most viable in the general election. However this year, many voters and party officials want super delegates to vote for whomever has the most votes . Many super delegates who initially supported Hillary Clinton when she was the clear front runner are being pressured to switch their support to Barack Obama as he now leads in votes and as some of those super delegates represent districts which voted overwhelmingly for Obama.
What do you think? Should super delegates ratify the popular vote, should they vote along with their districts or should they vote their consciouses?
Resources and further reading:
Delegate tracker, super delegate names and endorsements and updated information at 2008 Democratic Convention Watch
Why Superdelegates Should Be Welcomed, Not Feared from the Brookings Institute
From the New York Times:
Not surprisingly, Democratic primary voters had an opinion on the appropriate role of the 795 superdelegates who could determine the party’s nominee. More than half said that these party leaders should vote for the candidate who received the most votes in the primaries and caucuses.
Geraldine A. Ferraro on her role in creating the super delegate process and thoughts on their role in this election.
Black Ohioans Backing Clinton Feel the Pressure to Switch
Ohio congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones on why she's sticking with Hillary
Jill Miller Zimon on staying loyal
Ebony Mom on freedom of choice for super delegates
Bob Herbert on some of the difficult decisions super delegates might face after Tuesday
Elaine Kamarck of Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government on the history of super delegates
Katrina vanden Heuvel of The Nation on "The Tyranny of Super-Delegates"
And Pamela Gentry of BET.com in "The Super Delegate Debate Continues" writes:
And the question of whether super delegates will make the call, Conyers said, “no one is going to stand for that.” We can’t go back to the days of smoke-filled rooms, where a few party heavyweights would decide who the nominee would be. That won’t work in 2008.”
BlogHer CE Maria Niles blogs politics at PopConsumer
Comments
Does my vote count for anything?
My preference is Hillary but I think super delegates should vote with the popular vote and the electoral college should be left on the editing room floor. I want my vote to really mean something. People would have much more confidence in the election process if we could change these things. Oh... and have some standardized means of voting throughout the country. I can't make it through weeks of 'hanging chad' jokes again this year.
Yes, yes, yes, yes
Thanks so much for your comment, Jen.
I agree with you on every point.
I think this year if the super delegates do not vote with the popular vote it will do more to disillusion voters than the inevitable deep well of disappointment that will result from Clinton supporters.
I would love to see the electoral college abolished and absolutely agree that it would increase confidence in the election process.
And yes to standardized voting - I've heard Charlie Gibson of ABC news suggest that there be 4 regional primaries and that those rotate each presidential election.
Problem is that true direct democracy is messy and threatening to the powerful so I doubt we'll see any meaningful reforms any time soon.
PopConsumer
Beyond Help
Thanks Maria
It's like a Wagnerian opera, this primary, isn't it!?
How many people think we should dump the supers?
Jill
Writes Like She Talks
Dump the supers
If the party would trust voters and not fear change I think Democrats would be better off. The problem with finding a winning strategy for Democrats is not that enthusiastic idealistic voters show up every four years. Perhaps the party should work harder on capturing and putting that energy to work for the party rather than focusing on soothing the egos of the establishment more concerned with protecting their own influence and power.
Super Sniff My Butts
That's what my almost 5-year old calls them, and I'm sticking with it.
Politics & News Contributing Editor
Queen of Spain
My favorite new term
I think Super Sniff My Butts is probably my favorite term coined this political season. Smart kid you've got there ;^)
And we wonder why people are disillusioned
Get out! Vote! And if you don't vote "right", don't worry - someone smarter and wiser and more connected will make the decision for you.
And then pat you on your pretty little bed and send you off for an afternoon nappy.
Miss Britt
http://www.miss-britt.com
Exactly
I believe firmly that the party has every right to set up whatever rules they like and that if voters don't like them they have a choice not to vote for or be a part of that political party. But, that said, if Democrats are foolish enough to ignore the majority of voters in the nomination system and not make an effort to keep them involved rather than writing them off as uniformed, not as equipped to determine what's right for the party or, I think, worst of all as Geraldine Ferraro argued, dismiss them as Republicans and Independents who don't count - they are complete idiots.
It cuts both ways obviously
I don't get the whole superdelegate thing.
And of course it cuts both ways. After all Teddy Kennedy and John Kerry are superdelegates who have endorsed Obama despite the fact that Massachussetts went Clinton.
Meanwhile I was a little disillusioned, after all the outrage from the Obama camp about Clinton pursing super-delegates, when I got an email from the Obama campaign basically outlining their plan to do the same. (I'm on both campaign's email lists...which can get pretty funny sometimes to see how they each spin the same events.)
But, having been active in the Demo. party in my own small way for a couple of years, I have ceased to be surprised at how much party leadership sometimes doesn't get it. Buy me a drink some time, and I'll tell you all about the worst state convention "theme" ever.
Elisa Camahort
BlogHer
elisa@blogher.org
Absolutely
The super delegate thing is easy - it's a system designed to ensure that party insiders have the final say in choosing the candidate they find the most acceptable.
And, yep - that's a legitimate question - if you decide to represent the voter's will vs. your own conscious - do you go with the overall vote or with the voting population you represent?
I'm not outraged at politicians being politicians. Of course they are both going after delegates, of course they are both *completely* outraged by the other camps behavior and of course each would be doing what they complain about the other if the tables were turned. In this case they are both arguing their self-interest - Obama that super delegates should support the overall popular vote and Clinton that super delegates should vote their conscious (and of course their consciouses would tell them to vote for her, heh).
I just think that either way there are going to be significant hurt, angry, disappointed constituencies but given the amount of attention that is on the process this year, the smart choice for the delegates will be to go with the overall popular vote and that will result in the least amount of damage to the party. And then they better make some big changes for the future.
But a political party leaders, especially the Democrats, focusing on the consolidation and maintenance of their own power to the detriment of the voters and the cause of actually winning - no, go on, I'm shocked, just shocked I tell ya! ;) And I look forward to buying you a drink and hearing the stories.
I'm on both lists too, Elisa.
Both of them desperately wish for me to make phone calls tomorrow, that much I'm certain.
Clinton gives much better email since Patti left, I think.
Laurie
LaurieWrites