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Terry Jones Cancels 9/11 Qu'ran-Burning. Do We Need to Keep Shining a Spotlight on Hate?

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By now, I'm guessing, you've heard about that insane pastor in Florida who's been wanting to burn the Qu'ran to protest the so-called "mosque at Ground Zero" project. If you haven't heard about him, it's probably because you live in what I imagine is a particularly blissful existence inside of a media-impermeable bubble. He's been all over the news.

And he's all over the news today, though this morning he called off the planned burning of the sacred book of Islam, telling the TODAY Show that he has accomplished his mission "to expose that there is an element of Islam that is very dangerous and very radical," and that he has decided to not burn the book -- "not today, not ever."

His being all over the news is a problem, according to some people. We shouldn't be giving him any attention at all, say some. We should be demanding that the media not pay any attention -- or any more attention -- to Terry Jones and his insane posse of haters and book burners. We're just, some people say, egging him on.

There's a point to this argument -- it's the same one that bloggers and social media types construct about how to deal with online trolls. People who wage public attacks on other people or communities usually do so because they're looking for attention; the obvious solution is to withhold the attention. Terry Jones and his followers are just another kind of troll, according to this argument: We should be denying them the spotlight. Which, yes, holds a certain kind of logic. If they weren't getting attention, they might have given up long ago.

But they did get attention, and that's the core of the problem that we're facing now. As sickening as it seems sometimes to keep hearing about their story, and about how pretty much everyone in the so-called Western world has called for them to stop being so freaking crazy and please, please, please not do this thing, it is a story that we need to keep our attention on. Because the defining part of that story is that the vast majority of everyone, everywhere, thinks that what they've been doing is crazy, really crazy, and wrong and horrible and bad, and we need to keep that story out there. If everyone who opposed what they've been doing stands down now, and goes silent, the only voices left will be those that are still calling burn, burn, burn!

That's not acceptable. It's just not. If we let those be the voices that define this kind of story in the media, then those who take the actions of Terry Jones and his followers as representative of the West will have all the more reason to cling to that belief. If we do not counter those voices, and ensure that the narrative that gets heard is the one that tracks our horror and dismay at what Jones and other would-be Qu'ran burners are saying and doing, then we give them control of the story. Like I said, that's not acceptable.

Sometimes we really do have to fight trolls, and fight them hard, and sometimes that fight involves a lot of shouting, and -- yes -- that kind of struggle can look and feel ugly. But sometimes it's necessary. Right now, it's necessary. Terry Jones is a troll, and we need to make sure that the world knows that we know that.

If we hadn't seen this story develop, if we haven't read it in mainstream media and blogged it hard -- the Qu'ran might be burning right now.

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Catherine Connors blogs at Her Bad Mother and Their Bad Mother and The Bad Moms Club, and everywhere in between. She's kind of mad at Steve Jobs right now.

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kate.si 5 pts

This country was built on freedom and tolerance for white male Christian property owners and puritanical religious fanaticism. Furthermore, tolerance is not the same as acceptance. I have to tolerate religion, I am under no obligation to accept it. Legal tolerance also means you can do everything within your rights as a citizen in these boundaries which would include protest via stupidity like book burning. I'm under no legal obligation to call it anything other than what I think it is which is ridiculous.

You say "mostly" in quotes as if I am wrong on that or you are dismissing it. There's no sarcasm or alternative meaning for "mostly" as I said it, NYC is mostly Catholic Christian. Define a sufficient number? They live in NYC. They are one of the smallest represented organized religions in the nation. Do you realize that the exact definition of democracy precludes that the majority gets what it wants? In this country we're not even guaranteed true democracy because of the electoral college and things like partisan primaries.

There have been calls for lots of things being built to cater to a minority in many situations across the country and throughout history as a bandaid for whatever uncomfortable situation is going on. Forcing people to just deal with it doesn't make them accept it which is why location is the issue here. New York is still shaken from this. Desegregating did not stop white supremacists, saying "happy holidays" does not make people like other religions more in December, reading Oscar Wilde does not make people accept gays. It doesn't follow that forcing people to deal with something makes them accepting it just makes them uncomfortable and they stifle the anger and later it bursts out in the form of race riots or equally unpleasant or violent.

Islam is a religion that is getting more and more done for it despite a lack of equal reciprocal respect and compromise. Look up setting up Sharia courts in the UK. Look up the "burkini" and France. It kills me that people are so sensitive in one direction but not the other. What about the general treatment of women? We're on a site called "blogher" and you're arguing that one of the worst religions for women should be defended by our freedoms despite restricting half of their followers with insane dogma. The Hindu population is about the same in NYC, why don't they get a building? Do you think that planting a cultural center in such a sensitive spot will encourage people to learn about it or to shun it? And yes, again, it is a sensitive spot if it even gets mentioned so frequently as one.

That's why I find it so ridiculous. I have no objection to people practicing their religions. I have objection to it being so publicly offensive all around and causing strife and suffering globally. I have no intention of ever accepting that this is the best we can do and that any religion should be catered to, ever, or given special permissions against the will of the population that has to directly deal with outcome of them. It is absurd on both ends.

BarnMaven 5 pts

As to NYC being "mostly" Christian and Catholic, it may be that a majority of people in the city identify as Christian/Catholic. However, I don't think there would be any call for a muslim center or a mosque if there were not a sufficient number of Muslims in the area to warrant the center being built.

Regardless of what the majority of Americans identify as, this country was built on freedom and tolerance. That's why we have a Constitution which provides us with protection for our civil liberties, one of which is to practice whichever religion we so choose. I am glad our Constitution protects us from the kind of thinking that believes that if the majority doesn't do it, then no one should.

Mary a/k/a BarnMaven blogs at http://www.barnmaven.typepad.com about single parenting, living with ADHD, too many animals to count and dealing with ADHD/Bipolar kids.

sharon2x 5 pts

Ceceev, your post made me think. After reading your post, I've come away with the viewpoint that this attack had nothing to do with religion. This attack had everything to do with a group of people who were ticked off about American policy -- and willing to show just how ticked off they were. That attack was over politics and not spirituality. How the heck did we get to the point where we believed religion had something to do with it?

Am I beginning to smell a little propaganda here?

miz sharon

sharon2x 5 pts

I'm with BarnMaven on this.What the heck is so ridiculous about letting people build their cultural center in that area?

miz sharon

kate.si 5 pts

I don't care what religion the people who died there are. If we want to go that way, most of them would have identified as Christian because most of America identifies as Christian, something like over 80%. Do I think any Christian church should be at ground zero? No. And yes, NYC is very Christian and mostly Catholic, after that comes Jewish, neither of which has had any particular good relationship with Islam historically and the Jews definitely still don't. On top of that, a big chunk of who died there were NYPD and NYFD and that's again, mostly Catholic. I don't think ANY religious building should go up near an area with such a touchy stance by the neighborhoods around it. The fact that it's even mentioned as being "at" ground zero everywhere means it's too close to ground zero, several blocks or not. Keep religion away from a place made hypersensitive because of it. It should be so far away that no one thought it was worth mentioning at all.

"Muslim Cultural Center" What was the point of that? "Oh we're tolerant, look how far we're moving past all this by letting 'them' put this up so close. We're accepting of everyone!" It's such crap cuz we're not. Everything we use to mark ourselves as different is just fostering more prejudice. You don't get people to get along by pointing out differences you get them to do it by showing what's in common. Religion is a huge divisive force for the entire human population and I wish it would all just shove off. I don't think any religious building should even be allowed to display beyond a sign on the door what they are. If we were really required to keep things like that out of public view and in your private life, where EVERYTHING spiritual belongs, we'd probably get a long a lot more with each other. For certain things like "burn a quran day" wouldn't pop up so publicly. Imagine that!

ceceev 5 pts

...or heard the fact presented that before the Towers fell, there was an active mosque in one of the Towers. See the link below from the NYTimes:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/nyregion/11relig...

It was used for a prayer space for many of the Muslim people who worked in the Towers.It also talk about the fact that many Muslim people dies in the attacks who worked in the Towers.

Cece-one of The Two Whos

http://www.thetwowhos.com

JennaHatfield 10 pts

Thank you for this amazing write-up on the topic. I couldn't decide whether we should be ignoring him or talking about it as much as we were. I knew the blogging/talking had validity, but you put it to words better than I could in my mind.

Contributing Editor Jenna Hatfield (@FireMom ( http://twitter.com/FireMom )) blogs at Stop, Drop and Blog ( http://stopdropandblog.com ) and The Chronicles of Munchkin Land ( http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com ). She is a freelance writer and newspaper photographer.

kate.si 5 pts

Having a Quran burning day is ridiculous but so is having a mosque at ground zero. Maybe we start really keeping religion out of everything public so this stuff stops happening. Keep your god to yourself people. Keep it in your own heart and your own house and your private world. All it does is promote stuff like this, a constant back and forth of hatred.

BarnMaven 5 pts

What exactly is ridiculous about having a Muslim cultural center (not mosque) several blocks away from Ground Zero (not AT Ground Zero). People of every faith died in the towers.

Timothy McVeigh was raised in the Catholic church, should we also ban Catholic Churches in Oklahoma City?

Mary a/k/a BarnMaven blogs at http://www.barnmaven.typepad.com about single parenting, living with ADHD, too many animals to count and dealing with ADHD/Bipolar kids.

Kim Pearson 5 pts

Thanks for this perspective, Catherine. On the Media had an interesting segment this week on the fact that Jones was a big story for weeks in the Arab world before the US press noticed him. It's difficult for many people in other parts of the world to understand why the US government couldn't just shut him down. Our concept of free speech is confusing to many. It's so important that more of us speak and try to get across the cultural divide.

Kim Pearson
BlogHer Contributing Editor ( http://blogher.org/blog/kim-pearson )|KimPearson.net ( http://kimpearson.net )|

sharon2x 5 pts

I agree that keeping silent implies that we agree with this "pastor." There is one good thing about this so-called "pastor"; he acted as a catalyst for people to come out and say "we aren't supporting this act of hate in any way." I was delighted to see so many bloggers coming out against this guy for his proposed act.

miz sharon

ceceev 5 pts

The entire past week on The Two Whos we dealt with hate from various perspectives...and looked at their healing elements.

Cece-one of The Two Whos

http://www.thetwowhos.com