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Does it Pay to Get a College Education?

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I have been reading some very troubling articles lately about the state of affairs for young adults entering the workforce. Because I don't know someone personally affected, it sort of flies past my radar map until a number of things land all at the same time. As a result, I though it was worth pointing out a few recent articles I read and opening the dialogue here on the site about this topic. Does it still pay to invest in a college education, even when diplomas no longer open the doors they once did?

My journey through this topic started on a Sunday morning a few weeks ago over coffee and breakfast as I read New York Magazine's cover article: "The Kids Are Actually Sort of Alright" (keeping in mind the cover had a photo of a recent graduate that reads "Sucks to Be Us"). It was fairly painful to read the experiences of recent college graduates who are struggling to figure out what to do with their talent all while moving back home with their parents, working a low-paying job, and coming to grips with paying back student loan debt. As the article shares:

I know this might read as very woe-is-us, but these are the facts: Nearly 14 percent of college graduates from the classes of 2006 through 2010 can’t find full-time work, and overall just 55.3 percent of people ages 16 to 29 have jobs. That’s the lowest percentage since World War II, as you might have heard an Occupy Wall Street protester point out. (Not coincidentally, one in five young adults now lives below the poverty line.) Almost a quarter more people ages 25 to 34—in other words, people who should be a few years into their independent lives—are living with their parents than at the beginning of the recession.

Staggering percentages. Now realist that I am I realize that there is a percentage of those without jobs that really could have meaningful work if they put a little elbow grease into it and raised their efforts and profile a notch. Still, no matter how you slice it you have an entire generation getting out of the starting blocks awfully slow (or not at all) when it comes to building up their earning potential. A lot of our young adults feel screwed now and screwed for the future.

The article made it to my sometime-later-article-idea-file and I didn't give it much more thought. Until... my father showed up with his stack of Time magazines that he loans us. I usually flip and toss most of them (I mean really, who has that kind of time to read a weekly magazine on top of everything else?). Before I did, though the article "I Owe You" caught my eye (thus the importance of the flip step before the toss to the recycling bin). The article is really worth a read if you can pick up a copy... essentially, it lays out how the members of the Class of 2011 have been dubbed the Most Indebted Class Ever (and it's only getting worse). With the lack of employment options the staggering debt is creating a shocking wake up call that will follow new graduates for decades to come (since student debt is almost never forgiven even in the case of bankruptcy). According to the article:

Average student-loan debt for new gratudates has reached $27,300 according to Mark Kantrowitz, publisher of FinAid.org and FastWeb.com, sites that help students plan and pay for college.

That may be the average but students interviewed for the article had amassed debt to the tune of $60,000, $90,000, or even six figures plus. That's not including things like students who go the route of law or medical school... this is just bachelor educations. So while many students dodge calls from creditors as they toil at jobs earning $9 or $10 per hour it begs the question... does it pay to receive a college education in today's times? According to the Time Magazine article, on the whole, college still improves job prospects as 2010 unemployment rates for adults 25 and older were 10.3% for high school grads and only 4.7% for those with a bachelor's degree. Still, the struggles young adults face are not without noting given the rising cost of college tuition and fees and the declining availability of high quality jobs at graduation.

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LucindaA 17 pts

My husband and I both went to college. We both managed to come out with little to no debt. He did it by taking terms off to work. I did by working the entire time I was in college and getting help from my parents. We also chose an inexpensive university. So I think you can make choices to limit your debt.

That said, I was rather shocked by how much tuition had gone up in the past 20 years at that same university. I'm not sure I could pay the same portion my parents paid to help my children with tuition. But I am committed to sending them to a state college if they desire. Anything beyond that, they will need to get scholarships. But there is no assumption they will go to college.

My husband is self-employed. He does not use his degree. He has always been self-employed so a lack of degree would never have come up. I no longer use my degree either. There are a lot of well-paying jobs out there, trade jobs, that are going unfilled that require training but not a degree.

So when my kids get older, we will absolutely do a cost/benefit analysis of getting a degree. We will talk about how much debt they really want to incur. I love the idea of college. But I will not let my children go willy-nilly 10's of thousands of dollars in debt without making sure they understand exactly what that means for the rest of their lives.

paulag01 9 pts

Love the conversations this has spurred. Particularly those who share that NOT having a degree closes many doors (particularly when bulk resume reviewing is happening). Also agree that depending on your long-term goal it isn't always "required" (ex: a trade, being an entrepreneur, etc.). Keep your stories coming! I'm so glad I wrote this post as it has stirred up a lot!.

Call Her Happy 6 pts

I have a confession: I was too worked up to even read this article. I am going to save it for a time when I am calmer. The fact is, my husband and I have about 70k in student loans left still (undergrad and graduate work). We are on a single income right now, and just had a baby. We can't afford to buy a house. We can't afford to go grocery shopping each week. We can't afford to save any money each month "just in case." We don't qualify for any kind of aid, nor do we want any. I just wish college wasn't so expensive. I spent my whole life working my butt off in school to get into a good college. I did, and now I will work my entire life to pay off the loans I acquired. Yes, some loans are being forgiven, but we missed the cutoff by a year. I could just cry everyday if I let myself. Basically, we are just waiting for some talk show host to surprise us by paying off our loans. Otherwise, we are in this for life.

Want to make the economy better? Forgive our loans! I mean, is it not true that the main consumers of almost all goods (especially luxury items) are those in their 20s-40s? But, we can't even afford a car let alone a vacation. If our loans were forgiven, that would be $1500 a month that we would be putting back into the economy and helping it get back off its butt.

Like I said, I'll read this later when I'm not so fired up.

Help.

Jenna

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fabulouslyfrugaldiva 5 pts

I was lucky enough to attend my undergrad education with grants and scholarships, however when I graduated I could not find a job. I thought it would be a great idea to get my MBA, but there were no grants or scholarships for that. $25k in debt later I am in a job that I am over qualified for and underpaid. I am very thankful for my job, however I could have gone without the debt and gotten the same job.

Kathy K 14 pts

I've thought on this question a lot and honestly, I can't answer it. I did not go to college. I went to vocational school. I've seen first hand how doors close to you without a bachelor's degree. But I see the other side of it, too. I see that skills and experience and the willingness to learn are undervalued by HR managers. Companies seem to want to bypass those who may not have the degree but are willing to learn because they don't want to spend the time to train them. They want that degree and your skills are considered worthless without it. And then they complain because they can't find qualified people. And then I've seen kids come out of college who do have that degree, but lack the skills needed to do the job. A piece of paper means you met the requirements to get that piece of paper. You can't learn decision making skills or common sense in a classroom. I've looked at going back to school to get my degree and honestly, I don't know if I will ever be able to do it because of the cost. Granted, my costs are going to be less because I'm a forty-something adult with a husband and a place of my own, but the cost is discouraging. *I* don't want to go into debt and be paying off student loans when I'm 70.

macjenna 6 pts

I just about fainted when I found out that RIGHT NOW one year of college in my state, (University level, not community colleges) is approaching THIRTY THOUSAND A YEAR. How am I going to pay for this and fund retirement? My kids are 12 and 9 and I am just about PANICKED.

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Leslie Whitney
Leslie Whitney

And I have often hired people from admin assistants to managers to retail assistants and a college degree is always important when I look at resumes.

Leslie Whitney
Leslie Whitney

Yes it's a must. I want my kids to be educated. Just a high school education is not being "educated" in my book. I often can tell when someone does not have a college degree.

Sandy De Jesus
Sandy De Jesus

jennifer - I'd have to agree with your assertion that an Associates degree is required for almost ANY job opening out there.
From my perspective, as a person with only a H.S. Degree but with 38 years employment history PLUS my current 10+ years in higher education secretarial; the reason for a college degree requirement speaks to what "today's" high school graduate is capable of.

Judy Schwartz Haley
Judy Schwartz Haley

don't mistake college for vocational school. College is critical, but it does not necessarily guarantee higher wages, especially in this economy. But this economy is not a constant, neither is the almighty dollar. College does give you immersion experience in a climate where you are expected to back up your statements with viable sources and research, rather than prejudices and bigotry. That practice is good for our entire country.

Rebecca Wolowiec
Rebecca Wolowiec

Having an education, either in a skill or a subject area is essential to work. Having both greatly improves you employability.

Jennifer Wozniak
Jennifer Wozniak

Having some sort of college degree, either an Associates or Bachelor's, is almost a baseline requirement for any job, even menial customer service jobs. I don't see that changing anytime soon. If our government feels the need to ditch the whole student loan program, then we will create a greater generation of have-nots. I hope this does not come to pass, but sometimes my own fellow citizens scare me.

Cheryl Tomaselli Baden
Cheryl Tomaselli Baden

It's not about pay it's about an Education! if you want a paid trade go to trade school, if you want an education go to college.

Polish Mama on the Prairie
Polish Mama on the Prairie

I think that it is and always has been more important who you know in the US as to how far you will get in life than whether you went to college, are a good worker, have any talent, etc. Based on first hand experience.

Jessica Orlowicz
Jessica Orlowicz

I agree that NOT having the degree closes a lot of doors. I have about 45k in student loan debt, but am finishing my degree this year. If I'm going to pay the price, I want the piece of paper.

Suzy Aaron Riccon
Suzy Aaron Riccon

There is no yes or no answer to that question. IMHO, it completely depends on what you study and how much that degree costs you.

Jessica Lay
Jessica Lay

I totally agree with Jessica great name by the way :) but seriously a good trade and you can earn more than with many college degrees. If you want to do something where it's needed okay but this whole only college is good and anything less than that attitude is just plain stupid. Your art major degree isn't going to do you any good when you need a good plumber and unlike many I don't look down on the plumber for making an honest living minus a degree.

Allie Rambles
Allie Rambles

The debt is harsh but when I decided to get back into the rat race after being a SAHM for years, I was able to find a better paying job than my SAHM counterparts that have no degrees. I am thankful my mom pushed me to get my degree. But, my husband has no degree and runs a successful biz in IT. I guess it can go either way. Maybe depends on the job/career you are looking into.

BlogHer
BlogHer

I think I am somewhere between Jessica Orlowicz and emily steers. I think that *some* form of post-secondary is probably needed. It's hard to get good jobs with just a high school diploma now. - Karen

emily steers
emily steers

i graduated with $40K in loan debt in 2006- that equals about $400 a month in payments. i sometimes wish i hadn't gone to such an *expensive* school, but i couldn't imagine trying to get a job with out either a BA or specialized vocational training. a college degree doesn't open doors anymore, but not having one certainly closes plenty.

Jessica Orlowicz
Jessica Orlowicz

Not anymore. It's overpriced and full of useless information. Learning a trade seems to be more valuable these days.

Carol Ross
Carol Ross

It SHOULD.