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Don’t Call Me Wing Nut, Moon Bat! Don’t Call Me Socialists, Neo-Con! & Civility Anyone?

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Wait, come back. This post isn’t necessarily about politics.  It is a recognitions that there is a huge chunk of people who think that a discussion, debate and community discourse is what they see on television or heard on talk radio.

It doesn’t really matter what topic you select. I’m sure cooking and knitting blogs have flair ups that started out because the a certain pan or needle was not being used. So is there any help for those of us that really don’t want to spiral into name calling, insults and posturing for the sake of making a point? 

Yes, I believe so.  For the record I am a human being who makes mistakes. I have biases. I kinda like the term Moon Bat cuz I was crazy for Batman as a kid.  You however may not like some of the other adjectives used to describe people in other political parties. I will refrain from any additional negative descriptors.

Susan at Tales of a 9th Grade Tuba Player has a good take on this:

It's like we've developed technologies that allow us to be in each others' laps, to intertwine our intellectual and emotional lives in increasingly complex ways, without developing the social skills to manage this intimacy. Kind of like road rage: we share this complicated technological and material space, and we have rules that are supposed to manage this space, but we don't seem to have fully developed the social skills.

It is not about political correctness or censorship. There are times when you need to tell another human to commence with his or her own self-pleasuring activities. There are times to walk away and times to not allow a lie to take root. Use your best judgement and do the best you can but civility and manner go a long way.

Respect, Respect and When in Doubt, Be Respectful.

You don’t have to agree with the writer of the blog or article. You might find factual errors. That’s cool. Cussing him/her, the family and the community back 7 generations is not the best way to communicate your disagreement.

Connie Reese's article “Are You Conversationally Tone Deaf? at Conversation Agent  talks about how the near real time flow of information can lead to the following:

Blog comments may turn into a heated discussion with rapid-fire volleys exchanged in near-real time. That's not necessarily a bad thing; it means you have hit upon a topic that people are passionate about. What is disturbing though, is a tone-deaf attitude that demonstrates an unwillingness to consider other viewpoints or to dismiss summarily people who hold a different opinion.

Here is an example: An issue came up about a Presbyterian pastor concern about using phrases like “God Bless America” A publication to exception to the blog comment and posted an article.  In a follow-up post Rev. Dr. Bill Smutz responded":

I do not expect the members and friends of Central to agree with every word I utter in a sermon, or write in a blog or newsletter article, or with every idea I put forth at a meeting. What a boring place this would be (not to mention unfaithful and unhealthy) if everyone had to agree with me.

I expect you to use your minds faithfully, just as I hope you all expect me to use my mind faithfully. And when we do this – when we use the gift of our brain, and the gifts of our different life experiences and learning experiences, and we anticipate the Holy Spirit’s never-ending work upon us – when we do this, we will have all sorts of wonderful and creative and faithful thoughts and ideas…very few, I suspect, which will be alike.

For the most part the responses were thought out, not all  were in agreement with his position but the commenters gave reasons and not attacks. It might be because most of them know the guy. Or it might be how they chose to respond. It is a choice. Just because commenter 12 acts like a jerk you do not have to.

Check Your Emotions Before You Respond

If any of the first seven words that leap to your mind bear any similarity to George Carlin's Seven Words You Can't Say on Television then step away from the keyboard. If you feel the need to apply a steroid induced smack down to what you have just read, step away from the keyboard. 

No personal attacks. Keep your metaphorically verbal

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Valbee 5 pts

I'd been getting the email forwards for months. It was driving me nuts. Most of the time I ignored them, especially after the time he asked me a question and disapproved of my response - so much so, that he forwarded it to my mother (they're divorced) and told her he was worried about my values!

One day, he sent something that I knew wasn't true. I replied, "Citation, please?" He called me to ask what I meant. I said, "I work in an academic library, Dad. If you're going to send me forwards as fact, then I need you to provide your source so that I can check it out for myself. Otherwise, I have to assume it's just an Internet hoax."

I haven't received a single forward from him since.

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Southerngirl 5 pts

The emotions are flying high.  At this point I find it better not to respond than to keep engaging as it is just not healthy and smoetimes not respectful. 

Michelle

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kperfetto 5 pts

I've been all but absent from most of the political threads here for those reasons kazari mentioned: the lack of respect on a site whose discussions, no matter how heated, usually remain civil. I'm a big believer in backing away from the computer, and actually think about what you want to say before hitting the "post comment" button. 

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Deb Rox 5 pts

I am usually encouraged by debate and even conflict, because it is a sign that people are thinking and advocating for their beliefs.  But when we stop listening to others, degrade their opinions, insult their intelligence, and try to undermine them by questioning their experience, authority or background, debate crosses the line into attack zone.  Thanks for reminding the community that we can truly benefit from the intelligent exchange of differing viewpoints. 

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Laracolvin 5 pts

I think we all need this RIGHT now, Gena. Thank you for giving us some persective and a chance to stop. breathe. and think w/o immediate reply. The line is often very thin between passion and disregard for others' feelings (and no one political group can claim an exemption)! But - at least we are talking about it, like we are w/so many other important nuances and paradigms.

Thanks again. Great food for thought. Now - if only we can all heed your advice! :)

Lara

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Gena Haskett 6 pts

There is a genuine concern for the direction of the country. How best to join and communicate. The extremes on both sides don't really want that to happen.

The desire for re-unification gets muted when everyone thinks they have the way and the other is the enemy. We all want our country to be better and do better.

We need a viable common ground on which to talk. Where that place is I really don't know. Maybe it is in our hearts.

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Gena Haskett 6 pts

I wish I had added this as an option. That you don't have to reply or engage relatives and other who stoke your burners. There are some people that you have boundaries on certain topics.

I'm not sure how political mix households do it but I suspect that a certain level of rules of engagement are put into place.

Political time-outs from drumbeat discussions are ok. I keep telling myself that anyway.

Thanks,

Gena - Out On The Stoop ( http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com )

lauriewrites 6 pts

I am fatigued from the constant back and forth. Today I got an email - a political forward - from my cousin that repackaged a bunch of the same old things I've been reading and I snapped. Calmly - sort of. 

I responded, gave a reference that did correct the erroneous information in the email (it was just...wrong) and told her why I couldn't support her views. I also told her that I just didn't have the time or energy to debate with her and that these exchanges do nothing but raise my blood pressure, so could she please not send me any more political emails? 

I also told her to please send me pictures of the kids instead and that I loved her. It was the most freeing thing I've done in awhile. 

We don't always have to engage. We don't always have to repeat ourselves. And when I do, anyway, I'm really trying right now to be my better self. 

Thanks for taking this topic on, Gena. 

Laurie

Erin Kotecki Vest 5 pts

I know I need to pull back at times, and this is a great reminder. I hope everyone reads this post

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kazari 5 pts

With this election looming, I think there's been a change to the language in blogher.  I think we're all still being civil, but often there is a tone of dismissiveness or just a lack of respect that I hadn't seen here before.

I think your post is timely and I hope it helps : )