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My daughter Kayleigh came home a couple of days ago from her gym intensive class with some interesting information. She had been distance walking with a girl in her class who is a nursing student. It turns out she works in the Labour and Delivery unit at a hospital I practically live at. When my daughter told me her name, I was familiar with it. A nice girl, who always greets me with great friendliness. I enjoy working with her. So it was with mixed feelings when I heard from Kayleigh that this nursing student generally doesn't like doulas. Kayleigh informed this young woman that her mom was a doula and mentioned my name, and this is when she said, "Oh, Lesley is one of the few doulas I really like. But most of them I don't like. They take my patients off the monitors and mess with IVs."

What I want to know is WHO of you doulas out there are doing this?! Because you know what? You've gotta stop. I don't know about you, but I have worked long and hard to get in a position where doctors and nurses trust me. In fact, most of my business is through doctor referral. It is this trust that has led to my good success as a doula. I did not sign on to be a doula who works mainly in hospitals because I am personally a big fan of hospital births in general. I'm an avid home birther. But my purpose and my goal is to ensure women get the best possible care within the system they choose. This is not by control, but by support. I truly feel if all members of the team took time to look into each others' hearts, we would most likely find the same intention...to hold a space, the way we know best, for a safe and happy outcome for the mother, father, and baby. We may have different approaches to this goal, but each member has a valuable role that deserves respect.

I personally think it is extremely bad behaviour on a doula's part to fiddle with equipment in a hospital because you are trying to reduce intervention. This is not advocacy! This is blatant rule breaking, and creates the risk of getting us banned from hospitals altogether. In fact, one of my clients told me that at one of the hospitals I work at less frequently, there is a group of family doctors who refuses to work with patients who have doulas. This breaks my heart, because I know if they could only witness a few good experiences with doulas, they would relax, and see the value of our services for their patients. My best experiences are usually ones in which family doctors are involved, and I think these doctors who have banned doulas are denied of seeing the kinds of births that are common with the presence of a good doula. It only takes a couple of bad egg experiences to put people off eggs.

Why should you not take women off the monitors? After all, they're on there way too long a lot of the time. Because, it is not your role. You can track down the nurse and ask her to please take off the fetal monitor, explaining your client has been on it for the required time. In my experience, once I ask permission, I see the beginnings of trust start to happen. The nurses know I am not out to sabotage their work. Imagine being them for a minute. They are responsible for the monitoring of their patients. It is they who usually decide whether or not a doctor needs to come into the room to check things out based on what's going on with the mother and baby. If a nurse is required to have a mother on the monitor because that is the rule of the hospital, she comes back in and you've undone the whole thing, something happens with the baby, who do you think gets in the most trouble? Probably the nurse.

I'm a pretty experienced doula, and am capable of reading a monitor, getting a general sense of how things are with the baby. But I am not qualified to diagnose this for certain. There are probably a lot of things I DON'T know about reading a fetal monitor, and I'm not going to assume anything. If your client wants to take off her monitor, it is her right to do so whenever she wishes. But

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NannyNextDoor 6 pts

THANK YOU! thank you, thank you , thank you. I think it is wonderful to be supportive of women EVEN WHEN THEY CHOOSE something you wouldn't choose. You are absolutely right. Turning your nose up and bad mouthing certain types of births will only make certain women NEVER consider doulas, when they could use them the most... just as a doula behaving badly will create rules for doula's that don't have to be there.

SuzRocks 7 pts

So nice to see this post- I'm coming from the other side (medical 'establishment'), I never worked in L&D when I worked as a nurse, but now doing anesthesia I go to OB for c-sections and epidurals and what not.

I would have NO problem with someone like you being there, helping the patient, helping 'translate' and really sticking up for the patients wishes. I think sometimes (who am I kidding, a LOT of the time), we medical people turn our noses up at anything holistic. I think there is a time and place for everything.

If I came across a doula like the ones you describe...shit would pretty much hit the fan, and I'd probably kick her out of the room. I've heard of doulas and other holistic birthing people spread misinformation and flat out lies about some medical things like epidurals, etc. That just pisses me off.

Thanks for writing this- you tell your side to play nice, and I'll tell my side to play nice! :)

The UDG 17 pts

I shared your blog with one of college friends who has just started her courses in becoming a doula. She found it extremely helpful and I found it interesting, as I have very little knowledge in the alternative birth realm.

Kelly DeBie 6 pts

I've been a doula for 8 years now, and have seen what you are talking about. There are even a few hospitals I've heard of that have instituted rules about doulas. Which is sad, because the hospital setting is where doulas really need to be the most!

We can only help women own their birthing experiences if we are allowed to be there in the first place.

Kelly DeBie

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http://debiehive.blogspot.com

Harley Baldwin White-Wiedow 5 pts

The combatitive stance of the natural birthing community always bothers me. I worry so much, as a birthing mother, about being caught between the issues that my medical providers and my doula are bringing with them to the hospital.

I knew this time around that I'd hired the right doula when I told her that it was important not to have a combatative relationship with my docs, midwives, and nurses, and that I trusted that they understood and supported my desire for an unmedicated VBAC, and she said "can you find a way to express that in the introduction paragraph of your birth preferences? Anything we can do to disarm them and include them from the beginning will make it so much easier for them to care for you and do their jobs at the same time."

I see the debates online about low intervention home birth vs. High intervention hospital birth and it always seems to me that the argument misses the point entirely. Most women can't afford to shell out of pocket for a home birth, and most insurance companies don't cover them. Thus, making hospital births more positive and mother directed should be our goal - and that is the responsibility of the doula, not unmaking her bad birth experience.

To be fair - there is lots of hostility towards going against the grain in hospitals that's not created by doulas. It's not fair that doulas have to work past that to get to a place where they can support their clients adequately. It's also not fair for them to contribute to the problem, and for us mamas to suffer for that.

thepsychobabble 7 pts

Beautiful post on the topic! I found myself nodding throughout:)

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crimsonarbor 6 pts

THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING UP!! You could not have said it any better and I can't tell you how many times I've wanted to lay it out like this for other doulas! Let me be blunt:

IT IS A DISSERVICE TO MY CLIENTS when I use my time, energy and diplomacy skills to 'undo' all of the iciness that I feel every time I walk into the hospital with a client thanks to others poorly chosen actions. I could be using all of that energy helping my client.

And might I suggest that perhaps IT IS A DISSERVICE TO YOUR OWN CLIENTS as well?? We all know how any little bit of tension, stress can inhibit a mom's labor. Have you ever stopped to think about whether or not your attitudes towards nurse/doc/hospital, spoken or unspoken, are hindering your own clients' progress?

PR 101 for doulas:
*nurse walks in, greets your client, you immediately, cheerfully introduce yourself AND SHAKE HER HAND! Dont worry about 'germs', she'll wash/sanitize/glove up before she does anything else anyway!
*Establish ground rules right up front, respectfully and humbly (this is after all her kitchen and you ain't the cook!), "....when mom needs to get up, should she unplug the monitor cables or would you rather we call you to come do it?...where is the galley and do we have access to it or would you rather we ask you when we need something?...can I access the linens closet should we need to?...". This line of questioning allows the nurse to see that we can actually make their job EASIER!
*Speak respectfully of the hospital staff to your clients as well as other doulas. You don't have to agree with things they are doing, but why slam or critique them? Unless you yourself are or have been a nurse or midwife, I hate to tell ya, but they probably know more than you do. They spent a lot of years earning their degree - same with docs. They are simply approaching childbirth from a different perspective.

Again, I hope this message makes it out here to as many doulas as possible! And thank you so much for posting this!!!

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