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The 70-Year-Old Mother, Steel Magnolias, IVF, and Why We Judge

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Back in 1989, America wept over the death of Shelby in Steel Magnolias. Like her mother M'Lynn (Sally Field), we wanted to know why. We wanted to "know how that baby will ever know how wonderful his mother was! Will he ever know what she went through for him!" And we cried buckets.

Shelby, the focus of the play and film, is a character based on author Robert Harling's sister, who died after complications from diabetes. While most women with diabetes can have a healthy and uneventful pregnancy, Shelby is given instructions by her doctor not to attempt pregnancy, disregards them because her desire to be a mother is so strong, and dies less than a year later after a failed kidney transplant.

Writing the play and the movie may have been an act of catharsis for Harling and his family (many of whom were on set or in the film), but it was also a cathartic movie for American filmgoers who could tap into Shelby's desire for a child who is a combination of herself and her husband, Jackson, while cursing the unfairness of a child who loses his mother so young.

So why the hell are we so judgmental of Rajo Devi Lohan?

The Indian woman made history by becoming the oldest woman to give birth at age 70. She is currently dying, having never recovered from complications after pregnancy. While there may be 70-year-old bodies that can withstand and bounce back from birth, like Shelby, Rajo took a risk and is currently paying the price.

Yet also like Shelby, it is a price Lohan feels is worth the prize. She states:

I dreamed about having a child all my life. It does not matter to me that I am ill, because at least I lived long enough to become a mother.

It's a sentiment many can relate to even if we wouldn't make the same choices, yet when we steer into cultural territory, we suddenly stop seeing the misty-eyed Shelbyness of it all and instead begin an ethnocentric-laden judgment of women willing to die in order to create life. Where it's admirable from Shelby, it's selfish from Lohan. With Shelby, we cluck that you just never know what will happen to a young mother--any of us could die after birth. With Lohan, we snarl that she greedily just created a motherless child.

Yet few can understand the pressure that exists within certain cultures to produce a child, and it's a sentiment that is summed up by Deva Singh, father of the triplets born to the oldest triplet mother in the world (a spring chicken at 66).

Bhateri has fulfilled my dream of having a child and giving my family an heir. She was my first wife and after she failed to conceive a child, I married twice but again. I did not have any child from my other wives also.

Americanly, I would have been pissed as all get out if Josh had taken a second wife while we were battling infertility. But examining Singh's statement with cultural relativism, I see how strong the need for an heir is that it would move a man to take multiple wives (and support multiple wives) in order to have a single child. And seeing the length a man would go through to build a family, I can begin to understand the length Lohan or Singh went through to achieve pregnancy and give birth. The need for an heir trumps happiness, it trumps love, it trumps money or health. And while it's not a cultural standard I would choose for myself and luckily, I don't live in a society where Josh could take a second wife due to my wonky ovaries, I can still appreciate a culture that is different from my own.

After all, I have a strong feeling that other countries look at Steel Magnolias and shake their head over Shelby's hubris. Believing she knew more than her doctor? Believing that everything would work out in the end despite evidence to the contrary? Start examining her actions under a judgmental microscope and you'll wonder why you cried over her death rather than thrown something at the screen. But just as I give Lohan and Singh room to make their choices, I also give the Shelbys of the

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jmichael 5 pts

I'm sorry Melissa getting a prescription for glass to go over your eyes so you can SEE is a lot different than pumping your body full of artificial hormones so you can have a baby . Mainly because one is a necessity the other is a want, and last time I checked want doesn't equal need. I agree with you on the Viagra thing but the glasses thing? You were grasping for straws with that one.

Melissa Ford 5 pts

I can agree up to a point that we do have to pay attention to fertility and the limitations of age, but you're very lucky to be in a position where you can get pregnant at 29. Not all people are and some of the people waiting until 48 are making a responsible choice to wait until 48--or they may not be making a choice at all; it may take them to 48 to have that first child. I just think we need to be careful not to compare other people's lives to our own capabilities. I can afford certain things and have certain opportunities open to me due to my life situation, but that doesn't mean everyone can.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

LeilaLacrosse 5 pts

I appreciate this woman's right to have a child, it is after all, the meaning of life to reproduce (scientifically speaking).

However, in the USA there is a growing trend to put off pregnancy into our 40's and 50's. I am pregnant with my first child and I am 29. I chose to have a child now because 1. I don't want to be 50 and have to handle a 10 year old, and 2. I am aware of my own natural fertility limitations and don't want to fight biology by having a child after 35.

But when older parents have children I do not think much consideration is given to the child 'as it grows up'. We tend to think in terms of 'pregnancy' and 'babies' but we are creating a life here that could last 80 years or more. What about the child who is born to a 48 year old mother and 60 year old father, who then grows up and has to deal with elderly parents when they are just 15 years old?

I know that the modern world has allowed us (and even encouraged us) to go against what is 'natural' but we cannot ignore nature completely. It may be 2010 but to our bodies that simply does not matter.

Leila Lacrosse blogs weekly at the American Baby Plan in London

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sakeriver 5 pts

As a parent, I want to believe that I've given my son something good by giving him life, but I do wonder whether that's just a rationalization for having done something I wanted to do for my own reasons.

And, yes, there is the question of how much we can influence the lives of our children, but even if we can't absolutely ensure that their lives will be good, it does feel like I have some burden of responsibility to try. Once I die, I can't even do that.

I do apologize if I'm coming across as argumentative, by the way. It's not my intention--you've just given me the opportunity to chew on some of these questions out loud.

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Mike Sakasegawa
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Melissa Ford 5 pts

But parents do believe they are bestowing something good--a gift--and whether or not that gift has worth is in the eye of the beholder. After all, if my friend gives me an ugly sweater as a gift, it's still a gift. But it's not necessarily a good thing. It's now clutter in my house, it's a task on my to-do list if I have to return it.

You ask: "is the gift of life so great that simply giving it absolves us of the responsibility of ensuring (to the extent that we can) that that life is a good one?"

And it's an excellent question, but I'm not sure it's answerable except on a personal plane. It also assumes some idea of control--that we can make life a good one. Perhaps that is entirely out of our hands.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

sakeriver 5 pts

The question of whether someone would like it better if he'd never been born isn't one that can be answered in a good way, because a person who doesn't exist can neither like nor dislike anything. It's for that exact reason that I usually dismiss the complaints, but it's worth taking a second look, I think.

There's an inherent value judgment, though, in your implied statement that life is a gift. It happens to be one that I share, but one of the main points of your piece here is that we have to examine and challenge our assumptions.

So, flip the question around: is it better to have been born? True, someone who is never born can never feel joy, love, contentment, nor experience anything good in any way. But someone who is never born also never experiences pain, suffering, loss, fear, and never has to die. Most people, I think, would say that it's better to have lived even though living means you have to die, and certainly that's what I tend to say. But why? When I stop and really think about it, it's not something that I have a good reason for.

But even if we can take for granted that the certainty of pain and death do not invalidate life in general, this is still ignoring the question of what responsibility we owe to our children, and what the extent of that responsibility is. In the case of Rajo Devi Lohan (and Shelby, I think, though I haven't seen Steel Magnolias), the question becomes: is the gift of life so great that simply giving it absolves us of the responsibility of ensuring (to the extent that we can) that that life is a good one? If we have a reasonable expectation that the act of bringing a child into that world will kill us, and therefore force that child to live a life without one or both of its biological parents, is it right or wrong to bring that child into the world? I don't think that this is the kind of question that we can brush off, and I don't think that an easy answer in either direction is likely to be right.

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Mike Sakasegawa
Sakeriver.com ( http://www.sakeriver.com )

Melissa Ford 5 pts

Sometimes people will say, "I didn't ask to be born!" and this is obviously true. But like all gifts, it's up to the person to decide whether or not to keep it. I think it's fine to love a gift and it's fine to return a gift, but it's rude to sit and complain about the gift and not do something about it...does that make any sense?

People who complain, I often wonder if they'd like the alternative, which is to not have been born. Since no person on this earth got to choose their birth situation. It's somewhat the great equalizer in the fact that none of us had control, though some are more content with the situation they were brought into.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

sakeriver 5 pts

There's an idea I came across earlier this week that I've been struggling with. I came to it via Ramesh Gandhi, and an article written about him (an excerpt of which appears on his web site, here: http://www.rameshgandhi.com/Words/anotherman.htm).

He has this idea that since we are in no way complicit in the act of bringing ourselves into the world, we therefore owe no debt to our parents for doing so. They must have done it for their own reasons, and not for us.

I may be misunderstanding him here, I don't know. And there's something distressing and unsatisfying about this concept, something that I can't get my arms around. But it seems to touch on some of the things you're talking about here.

To whom do we owe a debt? Should we be grateful to our parents for having brought us into the world? Or rather, having brought us into the world without our consent and for their own reasons, do they bear a responsibility to us for having done so? Both, maybe? Neither? And if either, or both, what is the extent of that responsibility? And can it ever be fulfilled? To what extent must we try?

I don't have the answers to these questions right now, and I don't bring them up to condemn any of the women you've talked about here. I think, to some degree, I can't condemn them any more than I can myself; I'd like to be happy with my decision to have a family, after all. (And I am.) But I can't help feeling that these questions are important.

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Melissa Ford 5 pts

Is "this culture" America or India? It's interesting where Americans applaud the can-do spirit and where they condemn. It doesn't seem to have any consistency.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

Melissa Ford 5 pts

You make a fine point, especially if we equate age with gained wisdom.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

Melissa Ford 5 pts

Exactly! Very well said.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

Deb Rox 5 pts

Interesting. One of this culture's serious character flaws is judgement against people who take on things that they can't fully take care of themselves, while rewarding risktakers even if they fail, so I wonder if that's what's at play here. Buck nature only if you can afford it, but if you can then it's okay, yee-haw, take yer chances and go for broke. Have a quiverful of kids if you can pay to create AND take care of them and all of their medical bills, but if you are a single mother who can't, then you are an unethical burden. A mother whose last days are within a decade even before she bears a child--that's not taking care of your own. But trying to beat the health odds when you have a family (as long as the family's not on welfare) to take care of the child if it doesn't work out? That's just good ol' spunk, gumption and heroism. Of course those ideals aren't mutually exclusive, and are ridiculous when take to the absurb, but the bootstrapping, self-determination ethos is wielded pretty broadly.

Deb Rox

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mcwhclan 5 pts

Thanks for writing this! It is great to see this point of view being shared. I remember when this story first came out, I felt so sorry for that mother, and all the things she was going through. Having gone through some infertility myself, I can empathize her desire to have a child of her own. I can get why she would be driven to such lengths. I am also sure that she thought about all the pros and cons of the situation, and the pros won out. It isn't like she jumped into the decision, she had like 50 years to think about it!
We are quick to judge others without thinking about what they might be going through. Thanks for sharing.

blogging about life stuff at http://mcwhclan.wordpress.com

pinkpixel 5 pts

What would happen, just as a hypothetical, if an otherwise-healthy young woman with a terminal diagnosis (maybe an early-stage, highly fatal cancer) decided to have a child because she wanted to experience motherhood, however briefly, before she died? Lets say her doctors told her "even assuming no complications and good health, you won't last more than 15 years, and the pregnancy could make that time shorter." Would we call her selfish, or would we applaud her for remaining true to her dreams?

Essentially, that is what Rajo did. She knew her time on earth was limited (she is 70, after all). let's say she expected to live another 15 years, assuming good health. She knew she wanted to be a mother. Did she know the pregnancy was risky? Maybe. But it seems her motto is "its worth any price."

Melissa Ford 5 pts

But why is it not repugnant when people without perfect vision wear glasses? Are they defying nature? What about older men using viagra? At some point, erections are supposed to stop. Why are we overriding the body's natural sexual impulse to slow down? There are plenty of things we accept--why not this?

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

mrsL 5 pts

I think it is repugnant to people because it is so far away from what is natural, or natural law. It is not natural for a woman past menopause to conceive a child, and I think there is some wisdom in nature to that and people know and react to it innately.

Elena,

"If you bungle raising your children, nothing else much matters." Jackie Kennedy