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A Former Cheerleader on the Piedmont Hills Cheerleading Uniform Ban in School

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I was a cheerleader in high school. I wore the short skirt complete with black shiny nylon briefs (we called them "spankies," for God's sake) over my underwear to school, to class, usually three days a week, for all four years of high school and two years of junior high. I was a cheerleader every damn year, forever and ever. And when I heard today a high school banned its own cheerleaders' short skirts from class, I was happy about it.

Not for the reason you'd think.

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Are the skirts these days obscenely short? Yes. I really do think they are in the context of class, when you have to sit in a desk and people are like two inches away from you. It's really hard to sit comfortably without showing more than you want to in a cheerleading skirt. Especially the newer ones without pleats. The end.

I always thought it was totally stupid that cheerleaders had to wear their uniforms to school, but I never really thought about it until today. None of the sports teams wore their uniforms to school in my high school. I'm pretty sure they don't today, either. Why make the cheerleaders do it? Or better -- why LET them even if they want to?

Issue number two: Why did the girls have to pay $300 each for their own, too-short skirts? Perhaps I've missed something in these modern times, but I didn't think athletes in school-sanctioned organized sports had to buy anything but shoes? If every athlete at old Piedmont Hills has to buy his or her own uniform, that's one thing, but if it's just cheerleaders, WTF? (It's possible they all have to in these days of my seven-year-old's school supply list containing PRINTER PAPER.)

Aylin Zafar at Time chose to focus on the fact the high school in question -- Piedmont Hills High school in San Jose, Calif. -- told the girls they should wear sweats under their uniforms. She wrote:

Would we be without one of the most commonly used archetypes for the popular/mean girl in greater film and television history? Can a cheerleader still be a queen bee, calling out lesser girls' sartorial choices, when she herself is suffering from a major case of saggy-butt?

Please. Not all cheerleaders are queen bees and queen bees will be queen bees regardless of what they are wearing. No saggy butt ever stopped a queen bee. Plus, Piedmont Hills Pep could just wear running tights under their uniforms if they wanted to be more covered and less saggy-butted. That is not the issue here! The issue is why have cheerleaders wear uniforms to school in the first place? Feeding into the cheerleader stereotype completely begs the question of why they are the one brand of athlete that wears a uniform to school.

This is going to be a hard argument for me to win, I know. In the case of Piedmont Hills, the cheerleaders don't care. In late-breaking news, the cheerleaders are now totally okay with chucking the skirts in school:

But after meeting with the principal, the girls on Tuesday said they have decided what to wear to school on game days: Their sleeveless cheer tops ... and jeans.

So. Remove every stereotype you have in your head about cheerleaders. Now forget any high school girl you actually know, and let's look at it as objectively as possible.

Administrators called cheerleaders out on their own dress code policy, even though I'm assuming the same administrators were previously aware of what their cheerleaders' skirts looked like.

I think it's fair to enforce a dress code policy unilaterally.

I think it's fair to make all athletes buy their uniforms or not buy their uniforms unilaterally.

I think it's fair to make all athletes wear their uniforms or not wear their uniforms on game day unilaterally.

I'm sure high school cheerleaders the world over might disagree with me, but here's the thing: if girls get treated differently than boys in high school, it takes a lifetime to change that thinking. I was an idiot cheerleader in high school excited that first day to wear my stupid skirt to class. All the adults acted like doing so was totally appropriate and normal. Sure, cheerleaders are there to promote school spirit, but so are the athletes -- and nobody is checking out young Danny's hot ass in the extremely revealing wrestling singlet he's not asked to wear to school on the day of the meet. If Danny wore his singlet and his

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firepoint525 5 pts

Back when I was in high school back in the late '70s, when we did gymnastics in P.E., one girl consistently wore her leotards at least one size too small for her, so of course they rode right up her butt, which resulted in her exposing her butt cheeks for the entire hour every day in gym class.  Because of this, she probably received a lot of unwanted attention from the guys in the class, some of which she may have even been unaware of, but she never let on like any of it bothered her, and she continued to wear her leotards in a wedgie every day, this at a time when "boy-cut" leos were still the norm.  Because of her wearing her leos too small, I don't think she even owned a pair that could cover her butt.

VeroMom 5 pts

My daughter graduated from high school in Florida in 2005. She was a cheer-dancer all four years until the middle of her senior year. She became uncomfortable with wearing the uniform during school and decided to wear board-shorts under her uniform while in class. She said that it was impossible for her to pay attention in class while trying to constantly adjust her clothing so nothing would "show". The coach sidelined her for three games, citing her "lack of school spirit" for failing to wear the uniform correctly. She made the argument that the guys did not have to wear their uniforms, but it fell on deaf ears. She quit the team rather than conform to a sexist policy. I could not have been prouder.

nicmart 5 pts

The ostensible purpose of having cheerleaders is to incite spirit. The real reason is to provide sexual adornment to physical combat. The same sexual provocation in a classroom is disruptive and inappropriate. Let's keep sex on the sidelines where it belongs.

j-j-j-joe 5 pts

At the top of the article you said "Not for the reason you think", then proceeded to expound on exactly what I was thinking, minus what in my mind is the most salient point: who is responsible?

I'm not from the States but I have to assume that the school does not force cheerleaders to wear the uniform to school on game day, which leaves the girls themselves to decide to wear it for whatever perceived reason such as social status.So these girls expose themselves to being 'treated differently' not due to any external pressure, except peer pressure from other cheerleaders.

In the same article you say you always thought it was stupid to have to wear the skirt, but that you were excited to wear it in your early days, which begs the question why you enjoyed it in the first place. After you stopped liking it, who forced you to keep wearing the skirt? Really, you're trying to make it out like cheerleaders of all people are being discriminated against?

Come to my part of the world if you want to see how women are actually 'treated differently'- forced marriage, circumcision, ritual killings for all manner of excuses including just being born, because its more valuable to have a male baby. These so-called reasons are ludicrous, pretty much like yours.

You had one point though which carried the semblance of merit. You shouldn't have to pay for your outfit if the other male teams don't have to- unless you get to keep it. Did you get to keep your cheerleader uniform?

Please don't pity yourself or pass the buck for decisions you made solely of your own volition.

You published a book about parenting? Good Lord

Rita Arens 127 pts

j-j-j-joe @j-j-j-joe I don't know what part of the world you are from, but I agree cheerleading skirts don't hold a candle to the atrocities visited on women the world over.

This post is intended to get Americans to question how we treat male and female athletes at the high school level. My memories of being excited to wear my uniform are intended to illustrate that kids themselves aren't always the best judge of equal rights or setting a precedent, which is why adults should be the ones to lay out the guidelines. What would have happened if I had refused to wear my uniform in high school? I don't know. I never did it. I think it would've been up to the coach, the adult in the situation, and it would've been an all-or-nothing proposition. As an adult, I think it creates a "girls are different than boys" atmosphere to have female athletes of any sort wear their uniforms on game days if the male athletes are not also wearing their entire uniform -- not just a jersey. It didn't occur to me to question such things in high school, but I am questioning them now.

I didn't pay for nor did I keep my own cheerleading uniform. It belonged to the school. The Piedmont Hills cheerleaders did pay for their uniforms. I don't know if they kept them or not.

Your tone is pretty combatant, I must say, and I don't understand why, but it doesn't impact whether or not we should be having this conversation. We don't have to agree, but we should be civil.

firepoint525 5 pts

At my high school, back in the late '70s and early '80s, girls could apparently wear skirts at any length that they wanted, so cheerleader skirts were okay. Shorts, however, were off-limits, and I am guessing that this was because if shorts were allowed, guys would want to wear them, too.

brooks25 5 pts

I cheered all through jr. high and high school in the late 80's-early 90s and in the south where cheerleading is a big deal and very competitive. However, dress codes and codes of conduct are a bigger deal and because our uniforms didn't meet the requirement for shorts and skirts, we could only wear our uniforms IF we had sweatpants underneath them. Then in high school, when certain guys started wearing extra loose sweatpants and pulling them down for pranks, sweatpants were banned and we could only wear special polo shirts or sweatshirts on game days with jeans like the football players did with jerseys. This was disappointing at first because the squad just 1 year before us were allowed to wear them and usually we didn't have time to change after school but it wouldn't have been fair if the dress code didn't apply to ALL students ALL the time during school hours. In the end, it did mean that we had cleaner uniforms!

Next, the things you wear over your panties are called bloomers and I have NEVER heard them called spankies. Bloomers is not a suggestive word at all. Also, they are not supposed to be worn tight, but many are choosing the wrong sizes out of ignorance or vanity.

As for the length getting shorter, well that is because it became a sport and I guess the author was in it when it was more of a club without stunts, jumps, and tumbling. They aren't "song" girls anymore (sorry USC). However, majorettes and gymnasts wear leotards or things equivalent to swimsuits so that is way more revealing than a cheer uniform! And don't even get me started on the swim/diving teams, wrestling, and girls volleyball! But there are reasons for these uniforms to be the way they are and it has more to do with mobility than anything else. Very few schools today try to get away with letting cheerleaders wear their uniforms to school, especially IF the dress code would determine them unacceptable in this day and age of lawsuits. TV (Glee) is NOT reality in most places and like I said, went out of style in the late 80s early 90s all throughout the south (both urban and rural areas)!

As for the paying for uniforms you don't get to keep-- AMEN! Cheerleaders are forced to spend way more than any group except for maybe dance/drill team at a really superb program and as a cheerleader that had to pay for my own stuff out of my own pocket my senior year (since I had a part time job in the summers) I know how unfair and unreasonable it is.

marschaefer67 5 pts

I also was a cheerleader for 4 years at Venice High School in Venice, Illinois. I don't understand the logic of wearing uniforms to class. This just doesn't make any sense at all. Yes, there uniforms are too short and only should wear to the games. School is not a place for them. Also we actually cheered with the crowd. That is the purpose of cheerleading. I think they have gotten away from that and instead they do more acrobats than cheering. Infact, I've noticed most of the girls don't even understand the game they are cheering for. This whole issue is completely out of hand. Of course being older I see all these issues out of control.

Rita Arens 127 pts

I fail to understand how @moondeath, @clint317 and @RaTyGyVy are commenting on the thesis of this piece. The conversation is really veering into a negative place and I'd like to bring it back.

moondeath 5 pts

And @ RaTyGyVy it's been proven women are genetically programmed to cheat in someway in your life you've done it too even if regretted by flirting or by something worse it's hardwired into your system if we took a census you do also realize the amount of guys and the amount of women who say they have been cheated on will be the exact same almost give or take a few and a study took place on a large number scale among the most popular porn websites paid and free streaming and there were by most on a few of the websites more female registered users then males.... it's part of being human we're all perverts but the longer people like you exist and it might take another generation or two for people like you to die to realize "Why is this a bad thing...?" and just let it go I mean gays used to be fine a long ass time ago then this generation hit and suddenly they were outcasts again then to partially accepted... it seems every other couple generations of humans we seem to devolve we will continue to not advance as a race as long as there are ignorant people such as you in this world who rely on morals and what you think is right but let me ask you this human society who the fuck gave you the right to say these things are right and why are they it seems like the center of our problems is the same country I live in now the United States of Assholes which slowly influences the rest of the world you know in other countries things like this are morally accepted and things that are illegal aren't there and the crime rates are so extremely low compared to us it might make you spit up your breakfast in the morning and regret living here I know I do and I really plan on moving soon.

clint317 5 pts

Ok. This piece is about schools. If you, the author, have a problem with something there then please go the route afforded to you by that institution. Otherwise, it seems to me you're just trying to make your opinion public to try and get others to think like you all over. You're probably hoping they outlaw bikini's at the public pool too. It's certainly your business if you want your kids to be ashamed of there bodies and to only think about the body as a sex object. But please stop trying to point out to open minded kids and parents that God will punish you if you're too "revealing". The reason boys have sexual thoughts around short skirts is because you keep reminding them that it's naughty, sexual, and taboo. No wonder they get aroused, because you keep it exciting. Stop making a big deal out of a natural thing and keep your dirty thoughts to yourself. You see wrong and bad because you have wrong and bad thoughts yourself. It's not everybody else, it's just you.

RaTyGyVy 5 pts

Only a guy can understand the nasty thoughts that go through a guy's mind when girls/women wear revealing or skimpy outfits. It's not a guy's fault what goes through his mind when he encounters such sights, which is why the porn industry is booming, but it is the guy's fault if his actions or comments are inappropriate or immoral. Unfortunately, the natural sex drive in humans often overcomes common sense, and the more a girl exposes her 'assets', the more chance of guys being more aggressive. Guys are 'dogs' by nature. The good ones control themselves better, and show respect towards girls and women. It's the other ones we are trying to protect our daughters from. Not all daughters want to be protected though. It really all comes down to parenting on both sides. Oh yeah BigComeDown, even if you are gay and wear the super small clothing, guys don't know it, and still will stare and have the same 'fantasy' thoughts go through thei

fweetieb 6 pts

I love how this conversation is becoming prominent. I loathe that some people are taking it so very personally and are attacking the opinions posted here.

And as far as personally goes, when I was a "jock" in school, we always dressed up (think 'church clothes') on game days - boy and girl athletes. Except the cheerleaders, who wore their uniform. Many of the cheerleaders were also basketball players, or track stars...It always seemed a bit silly to me, separating them out from the rest of us. And yes, the cheerleaders paid for their uniforms - they chose which one they purchased, unlike the athletic teams, who were stuck with whatever the coaches chose (white shorts for girls basketball - seriously?). I would l have loved the opportunity to choose what we wore on the court...and would have used all the money I had from my weekend jobs to do so.

This is just one more reason I think a whole student population uniform policy is the best way to go. No athletic uniforms worn in the halls. Regardless of athletic activity, or sex, it puts everyone on the same playing field (pun intended).

Lisa Tognola 6 pts

Your piece raises some provocative issues. My child's school recently implemented a stricter dress code policy. I wrote a parody (which I posted on BlogHer) about it but am still confused about how I feel about the issue, because I hear valid arguments on all sides---from parents, administration, and students. It's a complicated issue because it raises a lot of questions around some important issues like personal choice, propriety, education, etc. Still trying to wrap my brain around it . . .

Rita Arens 127 pts

Lisa Tognola Link to your BlogHer post?

AMegaliLife 5 pts

I'm trying to think back on life in middle and high schools and while I can't remember every sports team that wore their uniforms on game day, I know that it wasn't applied unilaterally.

I recall the field hockey, lacrosse and cheerleading girls wore theirs - which interestingly all consisted of a skirt (and I never understood why that was the case outside of tradition and "sexiness".) I don't remember about the soccer teams (girl or boy, which both wore shorts) The boy lacrosse didnt', the hockey team (which was boy only :( ) didn't. I don't think baseball (boy) or softball (girl) did. Volleyball (girl only :( ) didn't. Football players definitely wore their jerseys.

It would never have been able to be applied across the board unless it was not wearing the uniforms. The gymnastic team didn't have a letterman jacket or warmup suit I don't think. Wearing a leotard to school pretty much defied the dress code. And who knows if the track and field and cross country team had anything beyond their bloomers (for girls) and 70s style short shorts (for boys) to wear. I couldn't imagine the wrestlers (which had at least one girl, but I don't know what she wore) walking around school in their singlet.

AMegaliLife 5 pts

In my school, all sports teams had to pay in some way. However, the more popular sports had the better Boosters and received more school funding as well - therefore had less out of pocket expense. If every team had a jacket, I could see wearing that to proudly display that it was game day.

Rita Arens 127 pts

AMegaliLife Yeah, I think no uniforms might be the only fair answer. Or as another commenter suggested, have everyone wear the top or jersey or whatever, but that still wouldn't help the gymnastics folks out.

beebarf 5 pts

I agree with you. I was not a cheerleader in high school but the girls wore short skirts all the time. And they had the bad reputation. Not sure if any of them lived up to it or not it was just the thing. A little unfair. I have a daughter that has been a cheerleader for the last four years at her private school, 2 middle school and 2 high school so far. The cheer coach ordered them polo shirts that they all wear their shirts on game days as well as their uniform school skirt. The other sports teams wear their game jerseys. Our girls are very respectable and I think the other schools could do the same thing. Cheer is a very expensive sport. I have other children involved in other sports and this tops them all but she loves it and they are parading the girls around at all. Things need to change. Like my husband says boys don't need any encouragement. They can be dressed in ski clothes and it wouldn't matter.

Thanks:)

Rita Arens 127 pts

beebarf I have heard cheer is an expensive sport. I don't remember having to buy anything but matching shorts/t-shirts for cheer camp and shoes/socks. We had fundraisers for our uniforms, which were owned by the school and passed along from year to year.

CroMom 10 pts

From an female athlete who had cheer friends, but was not a cheerleader myself: All sports wore something to school. Usually not our uniform. Girls' soccer wore our warm ups, sometimes our jerseys. Football wore their jersey's on Friday (gameday), wrestlers wore their warm ups too (really who wants to see a wrestler in a singlet?).

Anyway, our cheerleaders wore their uniforms when it was warm enough, otherwise they wore their warm up jackets.

I agree that they shouldn't pay for their uniform, unless all sports are paying. This could be a Title IX violation.

However, in general I think dress codes are silly YET necessary. Especially in high school, kids don't need more distraction (both genders). Non-cheerleaders don't want to see the cheerleaders butt hanging out in the middle of math class. Since parents don't take control over what their children wear - then someone has to. A student should understand that what you wear out to a party with your friends on a friday night isn't the same thing that you would wear for a day at school.

Rita Arens 127 pts

CroMom So it sounds like your cheerleaders were the only athletes to actually wear their uniforms to school ... when it was warm enough?

BlondieChicago 22 pts

I'm amazed at some of the ignorant comments on this post. This isn't about direct attacks on cheerleaders or the sport of cheerleading. This is about discussing a school's dress code choice and having a thoughtful, meaningful discussion about it. It's a news topic, not a public stoning.

Jay Gee 5 pts

BlondieChicago What I'm amazed about is the ignorance of many of the fairer sex about how the male brain works. Guys are visually oriented. Almost revealing will often cause more elongated sizing up by a male than totally revealing.

I was on a trip when a 28 year old lady in the group was wondering why the guys were stopping and staring at her. Well, duh! Se was wearing a pleated mini skirt walking down the street. Her excuse was that a part of the skirt was a pair of attached shorts. She said if the guys have an issue, it's their problem. I suppose she also thinks that if she were sitting on a guy's lap and rubbing his leg, it would be his problem if he became aroused.

Regarding a school's dress policy, it should be consistent. Just because it is a game day is no reason to relax a rule that is based on principle.

tiaras-and-trucks 26 pts

Jay GeeBlondieChicago

I am so skeeved that you are comparing something a woman is wearing while walking down the street with her sitting on a man's lap and physically caressing him. I don't think I can even convey my disgust that you think they're in the category.

I hope to God that I never encounter you in real life. This honestly strikes me as something a predator would say.

Jay Gee 5 pts

tiaras-and-trucksBlondieChicago Hey, thanks for your comment, but you miss the point entirely. Both short skirts and a girl sitting on a man's lap are intentionally desgned for sexual response of the male. One is visual, the other tactile, but both are real and both are totally normal male responses to stimuli. My comment about the 28 year old was that she apparently had no idea about men being more easily visually stimulated than women. Ask a man in your life if what I am writing is not 100% correct. If he doesn't agree with me to your face, it's because a peaceful harmoneous relationship is more important than being bluntly honest.

You should meet me. You would find me to be a very kind, well-intentioned male, much less a "predator" than most men. I wish no harm, but just have a desire to educate about real life. Thanks again for your response.

thebigcomedown 7 pts

Jay Gee Honey, I am gayer than Christmas and I wear short skirts all the time. I am certainly not doing it to attract men.

Jay Gee 5 pts

Good comment but one without understanding . Read my posts again, please. I did not speak about the motives of the cheerleaders or even the 28 year old. I said the effect of short skirts is to get a rise out of guys. Blame it on the designers that have corrupt morals. I find it hard to understand, but it seems to be true that high schoolers don't know the effects of their clothing choices. They seem to think it's chick. Good luck. Your road is not an easy one.

thebigcomedown 7 pts

Jay Gee Chic, not chick. People dress to flatter themselves. I would say you are flattering yourself (and possibly your gender) a bit too much by stating that designers create short skirts to get a rise out of men. Many high fashion designers are gay men motivated to design clothing for women's bodies, not straight men's sexual arousal. No matter who designs it, clothing is worn to make a person feel good, possibly sexy, confident and happy in their body and in their personal style. It has nothing to do with inviting a man to feel sexually aroused. Seriously, do you see how entitled that sounds?

A woman wearing a flattering outfit is not an invitation for a man to express his physical desire for her. Sorry we aren't all walking around in potato sacks down to our knees, I hope your circulatory system can handle the redirection of the blood flow.

thebigcomedown 7 pts

Jay Gee also for the record, I don't even remember what the cheerleaders in my high school looked like or dressed like, but in high school rules are rules. I agree with no one wears a uniform to school or everyone has to wear a uniform to school.

Rita Arens 127 pts

Jay Geetiaras-and-trucksBlondieChicago And what, then, should women wear if it is hot outside? WTF?

Rita Arens 127 pts

Jay Gee If you feel misunderstood, perhaps you should question why you are getting essentially the same reaction from a ton of different women. Perhaps the problem is that you are being incredibly sexist to make your impulse control our problem.

Jay Gee 5 pts

Rita Arens So women should be able to wear whatever clothing they want, whether it is to attract attention or not, and the men are just supposed to ignore it? No matter what? Sorry Rita. When you make that comment it makes you sound as naive as your audience of disbelievers. It was in a psychology type class that I first learned that men are more easily stimulated by visual things than women. My own observations have confirmed it. When I'm with a lady who is wearing revealing clothes, she is not looking, but I see what the men are looking at. Some are more sly than others. The gender difference in response to visual things is not an impule control issue, but a human nature issue. Deal with this information how you wish, but keep your eyes and brain open, please. The facts of life are not going away soon.

Rita Arens 127 pts

Jay GeeBlondieChicago Jay Gee, I can't even imagine engaging in a meaningful discussion with you about anything related to the "fairer sex" if you honestly believe that your impulse control issues need to become women's emergency.

Jay Gee 5 pts

Rita ArensBlondieChicago So Rita, here is your meaningful discussion from me. 1) What is the reason for a school dress code? A. To preserve a proper learning environment free from as many distractions as possible. 2) What causes the distraction if a certain dress code is not adhered to? A. It can be a lot of things, an inappropriate picture on a t- shirt or politically insensitive writing, no sleeves on someone revealing underarm hair grossing others out, gang related appearance causing factions in the student body. These are all vaid points why non-adherance to a dress code is distractive. -continued-

Jay Gee 5 pts

Rita ArensBlondieChicago But the main reason girls must wear skirts that are longer than 6 inches from the waist to the seam is because when that is allowed, the guys are unnecessarily tempted to drop pencils on the floor so they can sneak a peek while picking the pencil up. That's the big distraction when those parts of a dress code are violated. The school administrators figured it out long ago. Why do so many girls understand the political correct issues but have a blind eye to sexual reality? I'll bet that most don't mean to be seductive, but that doesn't change the effect on others around them. -continued-

Jay Gee 5 pts

Rita ArensBlondieChicago 3) Should a dress code be applied to all persons without exception? A. If there is a valid reason for the dress code, then by all means yes. All of these things deal with real life, not whether the individuals mean to be provocative politically, sexually or whatever. Concentrate on the learning environment and not on whether someone's rights are being violated.

Rita Arens 127 pts

Jay GeeBlondieChicago @jay gee I understand you are saying that men are more visually stimulated than women. My point about applying school uniform dress codes unilaterally was making the case for it to apply to both males and females, using the wrestler singlet as an example for potentially inappropriate uniforms for a school environment worn by males. You extrapolated my discussion of equality in school dress to a discussion of ONLY women's clothing outside of a teenaged learning environment, using no examples of males. You took this conversation from being one of equality in high school to one about what women are doing wrong and how women's dress is affecting males and only males in terms of sexuality. You didn't even touch on lesbians. Or maybe that doesn't matter because women are not visually stimulated?

What you are failing to see is the underlying assumptions you are making about men and women and their rights in relation to each other. It doesn't matter who is visually stimulated and who is not -- we are talking about each gender's right to be treated the same in high school.

Your comments relating to men growing elongated any time they are around women who are not covered neck to heels came off as though you were putting the responsibility for your hard-on on the woman and saying she should not be allowed to dress in a way that is comfortable for her because it might impact the men around her. Is that not, in fact, what you were trying to say? Please lay out your thoughts clearly then, if we are naively misunderstanding you.

Next2hvn 5 pts

I am glad I did not have to wear school uniforms and my child attends a private school that does not require uniforms. It's a shame to take away that individuality in my opinion.

Rita Arens 127 pts

Next2hvn I am confused -- this conversation is about cheerleading uniforms, not school uniforms.

Jay Gee 5 pts

Short skirts of any kind, cheerleader or otherwise, at school are a distraction from the business at hand...education at the taxpayers' expense. Whether they are called spankies, cheer shorts or whatever, to about 1/2 of the population, they are still panties, even if they are covering other panties. I remember sitting next to a majorette on the high school bus (majorette "skirts" were shorter than cheerleader's skirts) when she took her skirt completely off and was just sitting there in her tights. It kind of made my putter flutter.

Dress codes are imposed to keep a minimum standard of dress so that there is not distraction from the learning process. High school should not just be a big socialization party at taxpayers' expense. I am against anything that distracts our children from learning whether it be improper dress, excessive exemptions from class to work on the homecoming float or whatever. Mandatory school uniforms for all students has always been a good idea to avoid the distraction of improper dress and fashion competetion.

Rita Arens 127 pts

Jay Gee When you are not talking about your putter or what women's clothing does to men, you make sense.

Next2hvn 5 pts

Hmmmm .. I was a cheerleader in High School and loved to wear my uniform on game day. We also wore the "spankies" under the skirts and most of the times (especially during cold months) wore panty hose as well. I don't see anything wrong with it. It seems that your view is making it something taboo when it isn't.

tiaras-and-trucks 26 pts

Next2hvn But isn't it taboo if it breaks the dress code? If a skirt that short was worn, not as part of a uniform but just as an outfit, would the girl be allowed to remain in school with it? I think that's the issue, that the cheerleaders were being treated differently.

Next2hvn 5 pts

tiaras-and-trucks I don't think it is breaking the "dress code" ... I think it's ok to make an exception under special circumstances, like a game day. Of course I graduated in 1989 way before everybody turned everything in the school system so political and made issues out of everything. There were never any problems at the school I went to .. but I guess that's because it was a different time ....

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Joelle Kimmel
Joelle Kimmel

I agree, Danielle. The grownups are putting too much focus where it doesn't need to be.

And besides the cheerleaders, what about Private/Catholic schools where girls are wearing their uniform skirt too short? Get rid of them altogether because it is all getting wildly out of hand.

Danielle Letourneau-Therrien
Danielle Letourneau-Therrien

There is no good reason to wear the uniform 'in' school anyway, the boys don't wear football pads in class. The softball team doesn't come to school wearing those aweful pants. That's silliness. That being said, I was a cheerleader & I wore my uniform proudly, short skirt, spankies and all, in class on the days when we had a pep rally. About 4 times a year. Banning the uniform from the halls of school only draws more attention, and thus it is the grownups who insist on the ban who are sexualizing the cheer squad.

Tracee Sioux
Tracee Sioux

They ought to ban the skirts all together and redesign the skirts to make them more athletic and less sexualized period.

Susan Pressley Fowler
Susan Pressley Fowler

Interesting for sure. My question is... if they're banned from wearing them to school, why is it their uniform in the first place?