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Blogosphere Reaction to the French Parliament Passing a Ban on Muslim Full-Face Veils

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According to the BBC, today the French lower house of parliament passed a ban on public wearing of the full-face veil (worn most commonly by Muslim women). This is not a ban on the head scarf, nor the floor-length body covering, but the actual veil over the face. The National Assembly has 557 seated representatives, but the vote was 335 for and only one against. Most members of the main opposition group, the French Socialist party, refrained from voting.

Illustration of women wearing full Islamic veil ( Burka or Niqab ) on Avenue Montaigne in Paris, France on July 7, 2010 as France may ban women from wearing burka in public, a law banning face-covering in public places will be submitted to parliament. Photo by ABACAPRESS.COM Photo via Newscom

This is a ban that cannot take effect until approved by the French Senate in September followed by the French Constitutional Council, a watchdog group that makes sure that laws are constitutional. Beyond that, it may still be challenged by the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, where decisions are binding.

According to the Arab News, French Muslim businessman (and past political candidate), Rachid Nekkaz, said he would set up a one-million euro fund to help women pay any fines imposed them under the new ban and has started an organization called "Hands Off My Constitution."

There are only a fraction of French Muslim of women who wear this face veil. The New York Times estimates that this ruling would effect 1,900 women (2/3 of whom are French citizens) out of over five million Muslim women in France. France has Europe's largest Muslim population.

There are a large variety of body/face/head coverings worn by some Muslim women. It is important to be clear about which ones are and are not covered by this legislation.
To make the terms clear ... (Thanks to The BBC that also illustrates these garments.)

Garments Not Affected by French Legislation

1. The Hijab -- The headscarf. It covers the head, not the face, and can come in many colors.
2. The Alimira -- Similar in function to the Hijab, it is a tube-shaped scarf that fits over the head covering a close-fitting cap which covers the hair. The face is uncovered.
3. The Shayla -- This is a longer rectangular scarf that wraps over the head and is held in place at the shoulder. The face is uncovered.
4. The Kimar -- This is a like a short cape fitting over the head and neck and shoulders that reaches down to the waist. The face is uncovered.
5. The Chador -- This is a full body covering that may also have a headscarf. The face is uncovered.

Garments Affected By the Legislation

1. Niquab -- This is the veil that covers the lower part of the face, leaving only the eyes publicly visible. It is always worn with a headscarf/covering. In some countries the term is used interchangeably with Burka (see below).
2. Burka -- This is total coverage. Every part of the body and head are concealed with the exception of a mesh panel over the eyes from which the woman can see outwards.

The New York Times reported before the bill passed :

The draft bill says that “no one can, in the public space, wear clothing intended to hide the face.” The bill also defines “public space” broadly, including streets, markets and private businesses, as well as government buildings and public transport.
A fine of $190 will be imposed on those wearing the full facial veil, and anyone who forces a woman to wear such a veil will be punished by a fine up to $38,000 and a year in jail, doubled if the victim is a minor.

Michele Alliot-Marie, French justice minister, is widely quoted as saying that this bill was not an attempt at "stigmatising or singling out a religion." [ed. note: What!?]

This ban is reported to have the approval of 80 percent of French voters. People supporting it in France range from those who believe it is not in harmony with French values to have veils to those who feel that the ban will not allow a certain sort of fundamentalist Islam to take hold to those who feel that the veil is anti-feminist. Those who support the ban also say it is

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Mata H 5 pts

This is also not unique to France, as many other European countries are considering it -- it has the most impact in France, as there are more Muslims theer than in other European countries.

Thanks for your comment.

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

artwithoutpretense 5 pts

I can't say I'm very surprised this legislation has passed. The French government has been trying to put it through for years now. It stems from a serious fear in France, mostly in Paris, of Muslims (Maghrebains) from who have emigrated from Northern Africa. Which is not to say I agree whatsoever. While I personally object to women being forced to cover themselves, many choose to and should not be told by the government that they are not allowed. It is easy to forget, however, that not all countries treat personal freedoms the way Americans do.

Soma Sengupta 5 pts

Thanks so much for your response. I agree with you but would like to just clarify the following: The government does have a right to regulate the conditions for licenses. But the regulation should be rational and tied to its stated aim because otherwise, it can become a pretext for impermissible behavior. In the case of a driver's license, the aim seems to me to be to ensure proper vision. So, the government can demand demonstration that the burqa does not impede vision, just as it demands demonstration that applicants can see sufficiently well to drive, do not need glasses, etc. It cannot, without further inquiry, simply decide that a burqa impedes vision.
I agree with everything else you say. And thanks again for your response.

Mata H 5 pts

I think part of the resistance is how "foreign" the veil looks to someone unused to seeing it. I think the response can be visceral, without involvement of the intellect or the heart, which is a shame. I do believe, however, that the government has a right to say what is and is not OK under licenses that it offers -- such as a driver's license. The Registry has a right to say that if you need glasses to read the eye chart, then you must wear them while driving. If you wear a burqa, you must remove anything that impedes your vision while driving. If you want a photo government ID card, the picture must show your whole face. If the government licenses it, they can regulate the standards as long as they are equally applied.

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

Mata H 5 pts

The veil offers up a complexity beyond fashion. While it is not a religious requirement, it is a strong cultural issue in some Muslim circles. So to what extent does "freedom of culture" apply?

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

Mata H 5 pts

Apologies for missing your earlier post, and thanks for linking to it. The veil-culture is a complex one, and surely not one that can be summarized in a sentence by a French politician. Security is another issue as is safety -- for example, when I lived in NJ, there was a court case involving a woman who refused to remove her veil to get a driver's license ID photo. (!)

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

Soma Sengupta 5 pts

It is unbelievable that this has the backing of 80% of French voters! The arguments for it are so transparently false. How nice that supporters of the ban think that women who wear burqas are too stupid to decide whether their vision is so impaired that they can't drive or safely cross a street. How sweet and paternalistic of them to save these stupid women from themselves! And not in harmony with French values? I though their motto contained the word "liberty"! And I'm really scared of those feminists who believe that feminism entails forbidding women to dress as they please.

Candelaria Silva 5 pts

Government intrusion on personal rights is a slippery slope. In the US, I sometimes wish we could bad the showing of butt-cracks and underwear so prevalent among teens today, however, we can't. Fashion may shift, teens may outgrow this phase. I do think that governments might play a role in educating people about personal freedoms - so that people living in a particular country understand that they have a freedom of choice in clothing that they may not have in their home country.
I have lots of thoughts but can't espress them clearly yet.

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Melissa Ford 5 pts

I wrote about the ban back in April when they submitted the bill (http://www.blogher.com/france-submits-bill-outlaw-... and asked if people believed that it should be up to a government to determine what is an "assault on women's dignity?" And frankly, the answer is no. If the reason given was to make people identifiable, it would be one thing. But when the government claims that veils are anti-feminist without truly understanding the culture, it oversteps a line.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

IsleDance 5 pts

Each country has its own way of being. The more our countries melt together, the more important it is that each county be free to retain their unique ways. Or we lose everything that makes each country unique. I'd never expect a stricter country to allow US alcohol, porn or strippers...but it's legal here. Wording should be sensitive, to ensure descrimination is not the intent.

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