Friday Lunch | Q&A With Sheryl Crow & Keynote With Kim Kardashian West


Sheryl Crow discussion speakers: Elisa Camahort Page, Latham Thomas, and Sheryl Crow

Latham: Congratulations on this being the tenth anniversary of being a breast cancer survivor. You've been a fierce advocate for women's health. Can you explain what it means to be your own health advocate?

Sheryl: I was diagnosed 10 years ago. I don't think about breast cancer so much anymore, except for my yearly. I am here because it's an amazing and hopeful time in the cancer and research world. Technology has become so advanced, 3D technology; that particular mammography can detect cancer 15 months earlier. That can be the difference. I was healthy, picture of great health, riding my bike through the Alps. I ate well, but not for wellness. I was diagnosed with a basic mammography. It was a game changer. My life stood still and hasn't been the same since. One of the things I did was start learning about food. Kraft is here, right? Every kid wants to eat that. But for me, I started eating food that was in season, as organic as possible for reasons that are logical. Otherwise probably shot with dyes, raised to be ripe at certain point, etc. The things we put into our bodies matter. Estrogen can be in so many things. We have so much to learn about how to fight cancer. We're made up of cells, energy, and with mac n' cheese as an example, our country's list of things that aren't allowed to be in our food is way shorter than in any other country. In London, yellow dye #5 isn't available. There are things we know and should fight for as Americans. Girls are getting their periods at 10 years old. They might get diagnosed at 30 instead of 40. We need to fight to get our food as healthy as possible.

Latham: Speaking to young girls, let's talk about early detection. I know you almost didn't go to the mammography, right?

Sheryl: I was engaged, I was getting ready to get Lasik done -- vanity fully realized. I'd been wearing glasses for two weeks to prepare. Didn't want to wear glasses again. Got routine mammography. Radiologist saw something suspect. Ob/gyn set her up with an oncologist. Had just split up with her boyfriend, and it's Grammys week + getting Lasik on Tuesday. Then, on Thursday, she got the call. She said it was invasive, you need lumpectomy. Got lumpectomy, then got her eyes Lasiked. I bought a farm in Tennessee and moved home. My life started over. I have a huge outreach to girls. There's power and knowledge in knowing your family history. Now that we know there can be a genetic component, the treatments are far more advanced. Be diligent, get yearly exams after age 40. Find your closest 3D imaging machine. It's the difference in treatment options for stages.

Latham: Will you share about your self care? How do you check in with yourself, stay balanced, grounded, etc?

Sheryl: I am an artist, so I look at things on a metaphysical level. Life lessons you get dealt. I knew my cancer wouldn't be life threatening. I do believe our environment, food, what we're exposed to, can play a part in our health. Also the way you live your life. Every woman in the room can relate: we're all born with a built-in role that is caretaker, nurturer. It's an innate wisdom. Your body is built to create children. The last person you nourish in your life is you. That's our role. Her cancer was on left side. Many women believe that side is because you put yourself at the very bottom, you never say no to anyone, etc. That was my method. I think we need to learn as women that it's okay to be strong and feminine, put your oxygen mask first. I also believe with the amount of stress we live with, that we have to hold all of that somewhere in ourselves. It lives in your tissues, your cells. Turn off your phones, the tv, the news, etc. You can't be present that way.

Latham: Can you expand on the children piece?

Sheryl: I grew up with a phone connected to a wall, and I don't have a lot of memories of my mom on the phone. We weren't allowed to watch tv during dinner, so there wasn't a constant barrage of people's opinions about what you're supposed to look and act like. It was a simpler time. You have control over what your children witness, what they eat, and what they are exposed to. My boys are 9 & 6 and have never seen the news. I make sure CNN is not on when they turn it on to watch Cartoon Network. I think it's not natural for people to have that kind of stress and worry & be exposed to every bad thing in the world. Outside of voting and trying to raise my children – peace in the world... Our kids have a shot at knowing what that means. It means being quiet sometimes, no activities, no streams. Parents set the example and should do it for themselves, too!

Latham: There is a lot we can do. What's on the horizon musically?

Sheryl: A year ago I told my kids I wasn't touring anymore. I had been touring since 1987. The kids have been all over the world. They were so mad when I told them no more! It's been good for me to just be bored and creative, to be present. In the meantime, I've made a record with friends, hopefully out in the beginning of next year: Stevie Nicks, Willie Nelson...

Latham: What's your definition of an empowered woman? Can you see all these women?

Sheryl: How many in here have had cancer? Breast cancer? It's 1 in 8 now. Being empowered means seeking what your soul wants. You're constantly imprinted with what you're supposed to believe. I've meditated. It's a practice to quiet your mind. You're not perfect, it's a practice. Being empowered equals knowing life is made of circumstances that help make us who we are. Everything outside of those reminders equals distractions along the way. Empowered equals being aware and noticing, then taking what you learn and using it to be the best version of yourself you can be. Outside of that, you don't have control. Amazing book called The Four Agreements. One is – "Don't take things personally. Make your word impeccable. Do the best you can."

Latham: Which one is your mantra?

Sheryl: Making your word impeccable is so hard! Especially with social media. I am completely a dinosaur. I don't love technology. It's a great source of info, but gives people room to be hateful. Haters find other haters. When I tweet, I'll send something to my nanny/assistant and ask her to do it because I can't be invested in what everyone thinks. You can disseminate hope and wisdom and empower people to not get into the downward spiral where everyone has the opportunity and self-appointed right to say a lot of ugly things.

Latham: Great way to end this. Let's make our world impeccable.

Sheryl: I know it's scary, but if you're 40... It's scary, you don't want to know. You think you're totally healthy. As we get further along in this cancer world, there's such great hope we're getting closer to a cure. Knowledge is power. The better equipped we are, you could actually find out at the earliest stage and make sure you have a healthy and long life with your family and loved ones.


Kim Kardashian discussion speakers: Elisa Camahort Page and Kim Kardashian

Elisa: How many different projects are you involved in... for those who don't know?

Kim: I'm filming Keeping Up With The Kardashians full time. Then all of my apps. An app called Kimoji. We just launched some merch, a lifestyle app. I'm very detail-oriented.

Elisa: Reality tv, apps, etc. didn't exist when most of us in here were growing up. What did you want to be when you grew up?

Kim: When I was 13, The Real World had just come out. I told my best friend that's what I wanted to do, and she said let's make a tape and audition for it. She said you can do it, but I'll be your manager and we'll make a tape for you. Full circle moment because she's a manager and my show is produced by The Real World people. Our family life... never a dull moment. Everyone who came into our life said they couldn't believe we weren't on tv. I did have a clothing store, Dash (I still have it). If The Real World didn't pan out, fashion was what I really wanted to get into. I worked at the clothing store.

Elisa: My sister is here, and I often thought our family was hilarious, smart, and funny. Last month, you were on the cover of Forbes. You said you never dreamed this would happen, and dad would be proud.

Kim: Watching him was the best learning tool I ever got. Just seeing how he would get up, mom made breakfast, he drove us to school, mom made dinner. He was so determined and driven, talking about new ideas and companies he wanted to start. Seeing the follow through, seeing him be so motivated, that was the best example. Made me realize that. My daughter always wants to watch YouTubers, toy tutorials, etc. I take the computer back and teach her that I need my work time. Then I went to work for my dad after the clothing store. I always worked in dad's office when I was in college. He provided the music you heard in movie theaters. He was tough on me. I had to be at work at 8:30. Nothing was lenient. He taught me to be punctual and responsible.

Elisa: You work with your mom, sisters, you are very family-driven. Any mentors outside your family that are inspiring women, particularly?

Kim: In business, I love my peers like Jessica Alba. I love her dedication, she's always been someone I looked up to business-wise. She is really smart. I like to surround myself with people I can always call for advice. My best friend in management has started her own business and brand. Another friend of mine was in publicity, so I pick her brain on perception of things. I think the tribe is important.

Elisa: We've seen lots of celebrities go into fashion, lifestyle, not as common to go into tech/emojis, etc. What started you on that path?

Kim: One of my childhood friends is friends with everyone in San Francisco. We'd have BBQ, hang out with them and get fun new ideas. When everyone is talking, it's inspiring. Then I was approached by someone about doing a video game. It was right after I had my daughter & I was reevaluating my life. I felt my brand was all over the place, and I really wanted to take it back a bit and figure out what I wanted to do. When there was a game idea – previous game called Stardom, but they wanted to do the Kim version? At first I wasn't sure. Asked husband, he said it was cool. I started with a small team -- now a large team -- and I am so militant. I want everything as lifelike as possible. It's called Kim Kardashian: Hollywood. If there's an event I'm going to, I send the reference in. We may recreate the game with this.

Elisa: I checked out some of your emojis. Some were hilarious, some outrageous, racy, some not flattering. Your current avatar on Twitter is funny. What's your favorite?

Kim: The super iconic one is my cry face on Twitter. I have the ugliest cry face ever. You just have to have a sense of humor. I have some pretty unflattering ones coming up soon, including family members.

Elisa: Do you think that people underestimate you and how much your work on this stuff? Do you think they underestimate your intelligence?

Kim: Doesn't bother me. When someone underestimates me, I love to get to know them and have one conversation. For anyone to assume it's not a full time job to sit and create things and come up with every single blog post (3 per day), working on apps? I respect blogging so much. Modeling isn't just sitting pretty; it's a full time job. I don't mind getting underestimated, but I feel for people because I understand how it can bother them. Even filming a reality show is a full-time job. They don't get the respect they deserve. I love being on one, will fight for it. My personality is that I like to prove people wrong.

Elisa: People/bloggers think they know 100% of what goes on with us. Perception that you share every moment.

Kim: I kind of do.

Elisa: What percent do we really know?

Kim: Probably 85%

Elisa: So what's the 15%?

Kim: I'm protective of my life with my kids. You might see them on the show a bit, but not real stories. Selfishly, I am lucky they can be in the other room while I'm filming. Kourtney and I don't have stories about our children. That is one thing I don't share. But if you don't share something, it's like it doesn't exist. I wasn't posting about my son because I want him to go to the park like every normal human being. But some people thought I had a full fake baby because I wasn't posting. My husband is on our show sometimes, but we do have a private relationship. He's very private, I'm very open. He has taught me how to become more private and I've taught him how to be more open.

Elisa: When I was reading up on your social media presence, people talk about how your fans and followers feel like there's a connection there. We consider our online friends our real friends. But you're broadcasting to millions. How conscious is your effort to say, "I want people to feel a real connection?"

Kim: There's not a real conscious effort. Weekends I don't post, really. I love my connections with my fans, I DM all the time a handful of fan friends. It's not an effort I feel I have to put forth. I don't follow too many people, but I genuinely love my system of people I follow.

Elisa: There's also a negative side of social media, i.e. feedback that is harsh. When I announced you were speaking, I said I think you lead an unapologetic life. Is your private response different to that? What happens privately?

Kim: If you'd asked me years ago, different answer. I'd look online and see what people were saying. I still think not everyone has a thick skin. But I do. I feel so confident all the time, and that helps me. You should be confident on your own, but my husband also gives me an extra push. I know the hate is out there. When I post something, even nude selfies, I don't post to get a reaction. I post because I like the photo. Not looking at what the comments/reactions are. Sometimes I laugh. I don't understand why there's a reaction. If you do something because you genuinely like it, you shouldn't look for that reaction to validate you. I don't get hurt by the comments. I love that Instagram just added feature where you can type in words you don't want to see in your comments. I'm happy they implemented it. I wonder what words I will put in there.

Elisa: Have you thought of going from apps to developing a platform of your own?

Kim: I have, but I don't want to be spread too thin. I would like a feature where I can communicate directly with subscribers. Working on that.

Elisa: What is your response about oversharing your body, sexuality, when people wonder why you want to put it all out there?

Kim: Because I feel good about myself. After having two kids, I lost 70 pounds. Getting up at 6 a.m. feeding a baby, working out, coming back, feeding another baby, etc... I have three people I need to take care of. You can get caught up in not being motivated.

Elisa: For those of us with junk in our trunk, I appreciate the J. Lo's and Kim K's of the world.

Kim: I do what makes me feel comfortable. I hope I'm not sounding like I'm being contradictory. If you're not comfortable, don't do it. Do what makes you feel good inside and happy. I don't promote others doing it if they feel uncomfortable.

Elisa: Role model... what do you think of that term?

Kim: I try to be. It's not like I think about it too much. I do what makes me happy and what I am confident doing. My message is that I don't like labels. I want women to be confident. I support them, but I'm not the free the nipple type of girl. I'm more like a "be you, be confident in you" and if you're not, that's okay. Just no hate, spread love. But I like to push my views on other people. I'm comfortable sharing my views. You can get criticized so much. I'm a non-judgmental person.

Elisa: You have kids now, has gun control changed you? You have bi-racial children, are you more into social causes? Are you more willing to speak out now?

Kim: I am terrified of everything. I am so paranoid. Every last thing freaks me out. I have crazy thoughts. When you have two kids, you definitely become more aware. I have spoken out more. Definitely gun control. I want to be super protective of my kids.

Elisa: You executive produced a documentary on mental health last year. Why that topic and are you going to use your platform to create more documentaries. You have a huge audience, and you could make a huge difference. Why that topic?

Kim: When I had my daughter, sitting in hospital, Intervention was on, and I was fascinated. Growing up, I never had any experience with drugs or anyone around me. Maybe it's been linked to mental health? So I reached out to producers of Intervention and asked about producing a show like that but with mental health. With social media, I would see Twitter outbursts. So many signs and families didn't know how to cope. I researched rehabs for mental issues. I wanted to bring awareness to that. I love how it came out, and I love documentaries.

Elisa: You are raising a boy and a girl in interesting times. What do you most hope they will watch and learn from you, and what do you hope they learn as a mistake/what not to do?

Kim: I hope they learn to understand they can do anything they want to do and to always be kind. You can't underestimate kindness. I hope they are good people and live as normal of a life as possible. Having such a big family... so far it's really working. I think they really understand that. I hope they are outspoken and follow their truths. I hope they see no one is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes. You can get through anything. As long as you surround yourself with family and friends and try not to make the same mistake twice. Learn from your mistakes and grow from that.

Elisa: When can they have social media accounts?

Kim: I don't know. They'll have to ask me, we'll have a conversation about it. When Kendall and Kylie were growing up, that happened. They wanted Facebook accounts. We all had to spy on them for my mom, so I've kind of gone through that a little bit. I'll be overprotective to an extent.

Elisa: Are you working on a show with fashion bloggers?

Kim: Yes, but it's beauty bloggers. I was on a phone call about it on the way here.

Elisa: When is it happening?

Kim: Soon, we are casting now. It'll be on Lifetime!